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PJM
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***:blush:Shorter version and no discussion of being “equally yoked.” ***
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curious_1_1
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guess I’ll post as the “exception” – shortened version when I went to mass.
Homily on different subject altogether.
Homily on different subject altogether.
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KathleenElsie
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St Edward in Herminie, PA used the short reading. 
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EasterJoy
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Long form, homily talked about submitting to everything the Church teaches and that, as hard as it is to hear, serving God isn’t a choose-what-you-like buffet. He also pointed out that we will serve either God or a false god. The only question is which we will choose. And more. It was a good one.
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JSSebastianoP
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We used the long form - Homily was only somewhat connected on how we should always trust is GOD, use the phrase “GOD willing” and the like…
Pax.
Pax.
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NPC
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I had the pleasure of playing music at three Masses this weekend - the vigil and two this morning. The only time I compared what was read with what was in the missalette was at the third Mass, and the longer form was indeed read. After my first Mass this morning I was in the sacristy and I went over to look in the lectionary which is there on a stand for all to see. I was surprised to see that the first three or four lines had been covered over by a slip of paper (taped onto the page). I drew the sacristan’s attention to this, but he didn’t have much to say, nor did he seem very surprised that someone would have done such a thing. However, at the following Mass, as I have said, the lector did read those initial lines and I was very satisfied that she did so! As others have said, we either believe that we are reading the Word of God and value it as such or we don’t…
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Soler
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Long version, although it could have been a mistake, as the diocesan missalette only had the short version plus there seemed to be some lack of communication between the parish priest and lector as to who would sing the psalm. 
Short homily on how we must not turn away from God (specifically Christ and the Eucharist) as so many in this day have done, as people did even in Christ’s time (Gospel) and as the Israelites did even after promissing not to (1st reading).
Then, a surprise (at least for me) farewell speech.
Short homily on how we must not turn away from God (specifically Christ and the Eucharist) as so many in this day have done, as people did even in Christ’s time (Gospel) and as the Israelites did even after promissing not to (1st reading).
Then, a surprise (at least for me) farewell speech.
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moon1234
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Exactly. And the homily was very apt for the Readings as well.
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Eric_Olsen
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It so happened that I went to my novous ordo parish today and they did shorten the reading. I guess not to **** off the feminists!
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PJM
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=Underhill-I was pleasantly surprised that our parish did not use the “shorter” version. And it appears, based on the comments posted thus far, that most other parishes did as well.
Clapping is inapproaiate behavior in Church; God’s house. A simple “thank you father” while exiting gets the same job done.
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EasterJoy
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It’s kind of too bad we don’t have an “Amen pew”, like some of the Baptist churches do. When the preacher is hitting the mark, there is a chorus of "Amen!"s to be heard.I was pleasantly surprised that our parish did not use the “shorter” version. And it appears, based on the comments posted thus far, that most other parishes did as well.
I also thought that our young priest did a masterful job tying all the readings together today. So did many others at my Church, as evidenced by some people clapping at the end of the homily. That raises another pet peeve of mine, the clapping after a homily, which makes it like we are going to mass to be entertained. On the other hand, I think many people that clap, are actually clapping to encourage the priest to continue to preach on the “difficult” issues.
(And when he is not, I have heard, sometimes there are out-loud supplications of “Help him, Jesus!! Help him!!”)
OK, maybe not. Not at Mass. But it is entertaining to imagine it.
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sarahraegraham
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I don’t want to change the subject, but I just want to really quickly say that I agree that clapping is innappropriate at Mass, but only most of the time… For example, our parish priest’s assignment period was up, and he announced at daily mass last week that he has reappointed to our parish for another term, and we all clapped because we adore him. To me, that was appropriate. (And it was immediately prior to the final blessing, so also placed well in the scope of things.)
I think that most people would not have so much trouble with hearing submission preached and living it if it actually was preached most of the time. I think pastors avoiding the topic actually make it worse, so they contribute to the trouble. It’s nice to hear that many of you had it preached.
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Frosty
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The readings for the twenty-first Sunday in Ordinary Time in Canada are a bit different from those of the U.S. Yesterday, the second reading was Ephesians 4.32–5.2.21-32. As far as I know there was no option for a shorter reading and the entire reading was read.
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JustaServant
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Not mine. I was lectoring.
Nobody told me otherwise so I read the whole section, and Father’s homily dealt with the that very subject. Love the chutzpah of these priests from India.
I think many parishes shorted texts in the interests of time. Of couse, with me being a former preacher, I read it much faster anyway.
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EasterJoy
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And best when it is preached in deed, above all. If our pastor has a problem with the bishop, we don’t hear about it. It is kept between him and the bishop, and otherwise he obeys whatever the bishop decrees shall happen in our diocese. If there is a way to guess that he may have any problem with something, it is only that he is less detailed in defending it. He simply says, “That is the way it has been decided that we do it, and until we are told otherwise, that is the way we are doing it.”
It is impossible for a priest to go around second-guessing his bishop or the Holy See in public, then turn around and preach to wives about submission to their husbands, that the laity must submit to the teachings of the Church, or, for that matter, that anyone in his parish has to submit to his ultimate authority as pastor. It also takes a priest who wields his own authority in a Christ-like manner, and not like some sort of a monarch. He has to listen and love and serve with his authority, or else he has no standing to explain to husbands that their wife’s submission is not to be confused with subservience.
Likewise, I think it easier for a priest to convince himself that submission is optional in his own life, that no one with skin on really has any legitimate authority over him and that his place of authority places no commensurate duty upon him, if he goes around pretending that authority and submission are both outdated concepts in a general sense. It is at least an “out” with some internal consistency, I guess.
I say that last bit in a theoretical sense. I really can’t say I know a priest personally who is like that, only stories from others.
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Mrs_Sally
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Nobodies parish shortened the reading. This is to OP also. The priest may have selected to use the shorter reading, but neither the priest nor the parish shortened it. Either version is an acceptable choice in the lectionary.
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EasterJoy
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Somebody at NPC’s parish didn’t seem to think the long version was “acceptable”.
There are many reasons for choosing either the long or the short form when two versions are available, but I think we all know that, in this case, the long form is sometimes avoided because it is “hard to hear”!
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