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bagmaria
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Is their any differences between the two of them? Because i’m having confuse of it
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ConstantineTG
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Iglesia’s doctrines are based on false interpretations of the Bible that is supported nowhere else. And also a penchant for trying to prove Catholicism wrong because that’s the only place they can catch any semblance of legitimacy.
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dzheremi
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These Iglesia Ni Christo people are absolutely insane. I’ve been hearing their teachings up close for weeks now, and every time I think I’ve heard the craziest thing imaginable, they say something else that is the height of ridiculousness. They’re not even close to mainline Protestantism. They’re something else entirely. Very bizarre.
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ConstantineTG
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No, they’re sort of a mix between LDS and SDA with a sprinkle of Islamic in regards of whatever Islamic doctrine that points to Jesus being nothing more than a holy man. They believe Erano Manalo, their founder, to be an angel of God prophesied by Isaiah as the ravenous bird from the east. He interpreted the east to mean the Philippines, because geographically its on the far east. They also believe in the rapture but instead of being taken up into heaven by supernatural means, they will be forewarned in advance by Manalo and their ministers will call them to their temples and their temples will be literally lifted up into heaven. That is why their temples are aerodynamically shaped. Like the LDS they have a trademark architecture of their temples. They also believe in the apostatized Church theory and that they are the restored true Church of Christ.
Besides Manalo’s ridiculous claim about being an angel incarnate, there is really nothing original in any of their doctrines. As I said, alot has been taken from the LDS. Manalo himself was born and baptized a Roman Catholic and in his teen years 'til the time he founded the INC, he bounced around several protestant denominations before forming the INC. Curiously, God’s supposed messenger didn’t even know which one is the true Church so he had to go trial and error before finally realizing none of them was the real one.
Also, they are a cult. The practice scare tactics and emotional blackmail on their followers. They never openly discuss doctrine and any inquirer would be invited into the basement of their temples where they will be surrounded by well trained ministers and psychologically attacked to submission to their doctrine. Any member who would wish to leave will be threatened. Ministers will approach their family and pressure them to keep the other ones from leaving. Usually the devout who wish to remain will be threatened by hellfire. They literally have a book where the names of the members are written, and anyone who leaves will be literally stricken from the book. The believe that if your name is not in the book, its guaranteed eternal fire in hell. Also, most of their members are poor Filipinos, but regardless they squeeze them out of every penny, every cent they have.
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dzheremi
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My father is currently in the process of joining this cult (yes, I definitely agree they are a cult). I know all too well what they stand for. It’s certainly not Christianity of any sort.
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ConstantineTG
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It be best that you convince him not to join. It will be very hard to get out even if he realizes in the future that they are wrong. With all the emotional blackmail and brainwashing and other threats, nothing is beneath them to keep their members.
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dzheremi
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Unfortunately in his case, this is not true. He is marrying a woman who is already a member, and they refuse to allow their members to marry outsiders. Worse still, he believes that what their missionaries are telling him is true. “Everything they say is based on the Bible!” Well, yeah, dad…that’s how Christianity-based cults work! 
Please pray for him. He’s lost, and refuses to take any counsel outside of the INC missionaries.
Please pray for him. He’s lost, and refuses to take any counsel outside of the INC missionaries.
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pablope
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Agreed. Their day of worship is Saturday (I believe) and 10% of one’s income automatically goes to the INC as a tithe. It just makes the Manalo clan very rich. I have a friend who was INC, but the only reason why she was able to go away from the INC was she moved to the US when she got married. She got away from her family.
It is not easy to convert away as the family obedience and culture plays a big role.
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pablope
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Is your father marrying here or in the Philippines? Tell him he has to surrender 10% of his income to the INC when he marries or converts.Unfortunately in his case, this is not true. He is marrying a woman who is already a member, and they refuse to allow their members to marry outsiders. Worse still, he believes that what their missionaries are telling him is true. “Everything they say is based on the Bible!” Well, yeah, dad…that’s how Christianity-based cults work!
Please pray for him. He’s lost, and refuses to take any counsel outside of the INC missionaries.
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dzheremi
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No. He’s American, not Filipino. His would-be wife is Filipina, and would be coming here to marry and live.
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ConstantineTG
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Its very interesting how they piece and chop bible verses to conform to their theology. Its really an exercise in semantics and other mental exercises. But they’re like predators, they target the weak ones of the herd. If your not better Catechized, you’ll fall for their verbal and mental gymnastics.Unfortunately in his case, this is not true. He is marrying a woman who is already a member, and they refuse to allow their members to marry outsiders. Worse still, he believes that what their missionaries are telling him is true. “Everything they say is based on the Bible!” Well, yeah, dad…that’s how Christianity-based cults work!
Please pray for him. He’s lost, and refuses to take any counsel outside of the INC missionaries.
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ConstantineTG
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Maybe when they get there its time she converto to Catholicism. Is there an INC temple in the area they would live? Ministers do knock on doors and check up on their members. They have a punch card system, literally, in temples for their members. If you don’t show up for their worship services, someone shows up at your doorstep.
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pablope
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DZ…I agree with constantine…where will they live when they get here? I think there may be an inc branch already in LA or San Diego, hopefully they will live far from there. When they get here, that is the best opportunity to turn the tide, so to speak, away from the INC ministers.
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dzheremi
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There is a sort of “INC House Church” close to him. About 15 miles away. He goes to that. There’s no chance at all of converting him to Catholicism. He was baptized Catholic, but as he says, “it never took”. I’d be fine even if he would just stop messing around with these crazy cult people and just went back to being sort of apathetic to religion, honestly. It would be much less annoying and worrying. Oh well.
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gurneyhalleck1
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Is your dad filipino or married to one? I’ve never heard of anyone who is either not filipino or not married to one joining this group?
In the Philippines where my wife is from, they are very, very exclusive, strict, anti-Catholic, and they demand huge tithes from their membership. My wife has had friends who lived in tiny, tiny homes without hardly any of the essentials to live and yet they give what few pesos they have to the Iglesia.
In the Philippines where my wife is from, they are very, very exclusive, strict, anti-Catholic, and they demand huge tithes from their membership. My wife has had friends who lived in tiny, tiny homes without hardly any of the essentials to live and yet they give what few pesos they have to the Iglesia.
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ConstantineTG
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LA and San Diego? There’s too many Filipinos there its hardly impossible not to have a INC temple. Here in the Vancouver area there are 2, and I heard there’s another group that meets at a Salvation Army hall.
As much as I resent them, my friends turn out to be part of them. Although one of my friends right now is very lukewarm to that faith, so its fine.
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