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[Paris_Blues]

Why are there many Protestant denominations? I mean, there’s Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran, etc.!! What’s so different about them?

 

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Paris Blues:

Why are there many Protestant denominations? I mean, there’s Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran, etc.!! What’s so different about them?

Good question! Causes confusion, eh? That is why I think it is obvious that there should be one Church. One Christian Church. One Universal Church - hey, isn’t that what the Catholic Church was meant to be? I mean before people protested after over 1500 years of having a “united” Christian Church referred to as Catholic.

Yes, I’m Catholic, so I guess I shouldn’t have answered this question. A Protestant may have a good answer, but then if several Protestants answer, you may get several conflicting responses, eh?

 

[mommy]

From my understanding, it seems whenever someone has a problem with church rules or doctrine, they go off and form their own church.

That’s what’s always bothered me about Protestant religions. Even the name “Protest” pretty much sums it up. I don’t think religion is meant to be changed to fit me, perhaps I need to live up to what it teaches.

The one I really don’t understand is “non-demoninational” talk about uncommitted!

We have friends who I know are good people, who do truly love Jesus, and I believe are very holy, however, I really feel for them because I know if they truly accepted the Mass and the Catholic Church, and The Eucharist, that they would have a love beyond what they could imagine.

 

[Gerry_Hunter]

Paris Blues:

Why are there many Protestant denominations? I mean, there’s Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran, etc.!! What’s so different about them?

There are many factors, but one that plays a part is the question of the authority of Holy Scripture.

Yes, Holy Scripture is a part of the Deposit of the Faith, but the Protestant claim, almost universally, is that it is the totality of the faith. So, it gets interpreted by groups and individuals, who come to different conclusions, and who have rejected the reality that God has established His Church to guard and interpret the Deposit of the Faith – all of it, including Holy Scripture. So, for example, Baptists claim there are no sacraments, Anglicans, two, (except “Anglo-Catholics” who claim two plus five), and so on. And they go their separate ways, and even split up further once they have done that, as new interpretations based on, say, the spirit of the age, arise.

Blessings,

Gerry

 

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[Contarini]

Speaking as one Protestant, I’d say there are two aspects. One is, as others have pointed out, that once we separated from Rome there was little to keep us together, so that it was easy for every dispute to result in a new church. The other side I’d like to point out is that this division (tragic as it is) has produced a rich diversity of Christian belief and practice. If you allow yourself to appreciate some of the forms of devotion Protestants have produced–Lutheran chorales, Wesleyan hymns, ecstatic Pentecostal worship, clear-thinking Calvinist sermons–you may come to see our diversity in a more positive light. That doesn’t excuse schism, but it does raise the question as to whether all the blame is ours. We would claim that the See of Rome has chosen to exclude much that is legitimately Christian, so that certain forms of piety have only been able to bloom outside your communion. My own attempts to become Catholic have served to convince me of this. It’s hard to pin down, but for someone who’s experienced grace in Protestantism there is something lacking in Catholicism–just as there is much good in Catholicism that is lacking in all forms of Protestantism.

Please understand that I am not claiming, as some Protestants claim, that denominationalism is a good thing. At most it’s a necessary evil. And I’m not convinced of its necessity. But neitehr am I willing to say that everything about Protestant diversity is bad. I would not want the only manifestations of Christianity to be those currently found in communion with Rome. That would be a cure worse (if possible) than the disease.

In Christ,

Edwin

 

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Contarini:

Speaking as one Protestant, I’d say there are two aspects. One is, as others have pointed out, that once we separated from Rome there was little to keep us together, so that it was easy for every dispute to result in a new church. The other side I’d like to point out is that this division (tragic as it is) has produced a rich diversity of Christian belief and practice. If you allow yourself to appreciate some of the forms of devotion Protestants have produced–Lutheran chorales, Wesleyan hymns, ecstatic Pentecostal worship, clear-thinking Calvinist sermons–you may come to see our diversity in a more positive light. That doesn’t excuse schism, but it does raise the question as to whether all the blame is ours.

I agree about the diversity or about things that Protestants have to offer the Body of Christ (The Church), but many of the good things would be more prevalent in the community of Catholic, if we were all under one tent. Know what I mean. We are all sinners and the sins of Catholic naturally damages the Church as it would any denomination.

We would claim that the See of Rome has chosen to exclude much that is legitimately Christian, so that certain forms of piety have only been able to bloom outside your communion. My own attempts to become Catholic have served to convince me of this. It’s hard to pin down, but for someone who’s experienced grace in Protestantism there is something lacking in Catholicism–just as there is much good in Catholicism that is lacking in all forms of Protestantism.
We would be lacking less if the pious people stayed in the Church and continued to speak out against wrong doing by the people of their parish instead of leaving the Church entirely. I would like to see the day that people fix what is wrong with the Catholic Church (meaning the parishioners do wrong) instead of abandoning the Church which I believe was founded by Jesus Christ.

Please understand that I am not claiming, as some Protestants claim, that denominationalism is a good thing. At most it’s a necessary evil. And I’m not convinced of its necessity. But neitehr am I willing to say that everything about Protestant diversity is bad. I would not want the only manifestations of Christianity to be those currently found in communion with Rome. That would be a cure worse (if possible) than the disease.
I don’t know my Church History enough, but I am sure those in the Catholic Church are partly to blame for the divisions. I know that in the present day, we, Catholics, are to blame for some very “holy” people leaving the Church or not entering it. However, The Church guided by the Holy Spirit with the Pope as our Shepherd is good and holy and right in its teachings. People just don’t live their faith as they should. Sin is why we are divided. Sins of Catholics as well as sins of Protestants. That is my view. Division seems to me to be a useful tool used by Satan. United we Stand, divided we fall kind of thing, but we know we will prevail because the Bible tells us this. However, we struggle greatly because of sinfulness of man, don’t we? I’d like to invite you in to the Catholic Church to be a voice against wrong doing at your particular parish. We desperately need people who will stand up for what is right.
In Christ,

Edwin

 

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And the original question was: “Why are there many Protestant denominations? I mean, there’s Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran, etc.!! What’s so different about them?”

Edwin has a good command of the English language and had something to say. I don’t think he as a Protestant answered the question, oh, he did say that the division of Protestantism “is a necessary evil.” I will say two things w.r.t. the question.

1. Sola Scriptura
2. Personal interpretation.

You put those two together for 200 years and you have division in the Protestant Church.

 

[Curious]

in addition, it is my understanding (which is admittedly limited as my knowledge of church history is zilcho) that different ‘movements’ produce different denomination. You get a glob of people all worked up over something and suddenly it becomes a denomination, somtimes with its main focus on one particular bit of doctrine (like no pants for women, or no music in the church) or whatever.

so yeah. there have been some good responses, especially about the private interpretation. if the holy spirit is leading 3 different people and they all come up with 3 different interpretations that conflict each other…either it’s not the holy spirit, or the holy spirit contradicts himself, or all Christians are just nuts. So yes, many by private interpretation and several by ‘movements’ such as Azuza Street of the early 20th century and such.

I’m a protestant by the way

 

[WhatIf]

Curious:

in addition, it is my understanding (which is admittedly limited as my knowledge of church history is zilcho) that different ‘movements’ produce different denomination. You get a glob of people all worked up over something and suddenly it becomes a denomination, somtimes with its main focus on one particular bit of doctrine (like no pants for women, or no music in the church) or whatever.

so yeah. there have been some good responses, especially about the private interpretation. if the holy spirit is leading 3 different people and they all come up with 3 different interpretations that conflict each other…either it’s not the holy spirit, or the holy spirit contradicts himself, or all Christians are just nuts. So yes, many by private interpretation and several by ‘movements’ such as Azuza Street of the early 20th century and such.

I’m a protestant by the way

So, just wondering if you have this opinion about protestant churches, what is holding you back from becoming Catholic?

Try not to be too harsh. Just wondering if it has crossed your mind or not. It has a long history and good consistency in its teachings. I can experience very similar Masses whether I am at home or out of town. Same beliefs everywhere, just some adhere to them better than others. Care to elaborate on how you have the opinion that the holy spirit isn’t guiding these people who begin Protestant Churches, yet you want to Protestant.

 

[Curious]

So, just wondering if you have this opinion about protestant churches, what is holding you back from becoming Catholic?

Try not to be too harsh. Just wondering if it has crossed your mind or not.

No, I don’t care a bit to elaborate. I’m looking into Catholicism which is one reason why I’m here. I’m very curious (hence my name). Whether I ever convert or not, I have no idea, but I’ve not been able to shake this obsession of mine for awhile. I was here a lot back in the summer but then dumb school started and pulled me away. I’m trying to get back to these boards and get started up again.

I’ve already learned a lot from my time here in the summer. One of those things is that it makes no sense that God would ever contradict himself by revealing contradictory things to people and the creation of these conflicting protestant denominations.

heheh…sorry…this isn’t spozed to be about me. Didn’t mean to go off topic, just wanted to help answer the original question.

 

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