Dilemma with a transgender patient

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lilypadrees said:
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Cecilia_Dympna:
How is that kind?
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I pray you are never in a position where you have to find that out.
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I pray that I never have to depend on some of these posters for grace and mercy!
 
Not the name the patient actually wishes to be called?

Your rule doesn’t even make sense for a great many cis people.
 
I feel like I am missing something here. Aren’t we supposed to call people what they want to be called? My mom has a formal name, but she goes by a nickname that has no relation to the formal name. She hates the formal name. My in-law wanted to call me “Mom” and instead I said, “Please call me JMMJ”. No problem.

Why would this situation be any different? I really think this gets overthought. Show respect and call the person as they prefer to be called.
 
If your goal is to keep the status quo, I would just call him by his new name. But if your goal is to bring about an awakening, I would also casually ask him what his birth name was. If he says Michael, you might ask, “When you were Michael, what part of being Michael did you most enjoy?” It may open up a conversation. You could ask, “When did you stop feeling like you were Michael?” In other words, show interest for his history if has any energy for it.

I’d pray for him.
 
Oh, no being called the wrong name. The horror of it all!
 
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He can’t talk or has problems speaking because of the illness. And that’s a bit too personal. It would be best to pray since God’s grace is really the most effective way of helping anyone.
 
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I’m not a nurse, but I’ve been a patient many times, and nurses generally addresss the patient as something more polite than a bare “you.” Whether that be [Firstname] or Mr./Ms. [Lastname] or Sir/Ma’am, it usually involves using the patient’s name and/or some kind of gender identifier. It’s true that you don’t need to use third-person pronouns when talking directly to someone, but that doesn’t eliminate the issue. And the hospital should really have guidelines on how to talk about patients to other caregivers (or relatives or visitors or whoever), so even pronouns will likely come up.
 
Sophie111 said:
I am sorry but if you cannot understand or agree with the commonly accepted findings of medicine (even by catholic professionals) on the possible biological basis of such gender/sex disorders, or basic theology and the difference between Nature and God in human reproduction then further converse with you is not possible.
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One cannot claim “further converse is not possible” before converse has even started. We have not conversed. Oh, and congratulations on your first “Flag (a post for deletion) Award.”

I know why your lengthy posts lack any authoritative citations – there aren’t any. You are woefully misinformed. And your uncharitable and unfounded rant as to my intentions and attitudes toward those who suffer disorders discloses an overbearing ego.

You would do well to read more and rants less:

https://www.ncbcenter.org/resources/information-topic/sex-and-gender-identity/

A person’s sex identity is not determined by one’s subjective beliefs, desires or feelings. It is a function of his or her nature . Just as there are geometrical givens in a geometrical proof, sexual identity is an ontological given. Psycho-therapy and loving acceptance of such persons suffering from sexual identity confusion is the proper way to love them. …

Properly understood, a person cannot change his or her sexual identity. … A person is the unity of soul and body, and ‘soul’ should be understood not as an immaterial self, but as that which makes the body be what it is, namely, a human person. We are either male or female persons, and nothing can change that.
 
o_mlly said:
Most should agree that love is the best approach. Love does not deceive.
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I think charity, as opposed to the kind of love one might feel for a spouse or child, is best. We have to look at the relationship between the parties and the dynamic. Would you tell a Down’s Syndrome child she looks dirty and unkempt even if she did? I would never do so. Never, and I’m sure not perfect.

Love doesn’t deceive, but love is charitable and kind. The nurse should call her patient by any name she (the patient) prefers. This is not deceit. It’s charity, kindness, and consolation. If a nurse can’t provide that, she shouldn’t be working with patients.
 
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I already explained my own views upthread, but there’s a bit more to being a nurse than simply telling people what they want to hear.
 
o_mlly said:
Properly understood, a person cannot change his or her sexual identity. … A person is the unity of soul and body, and ‘soul’ should be understood not as an immaterial self, but as that which makes the body be what it is, namely, a human person. We are either male or female persons, and nothing can change that .
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Every person contains both male and female aspects. Gender is determined by far more than ones genitals.

What do you call a baby born with both sets of genitals? It does happen. Parents and doctors have to decide which set to remove, and sometimes, both sets are fully developed. The brain and hormones are the prime determinant of gender. What you refer to as subjective is, in fact, objective.
 
Oh my! This is a dying person almost unable to talk and this is a relationship nurse/patient. Keep it real. It is time for love and compassion not for a debate about gender or what s/he enjoyed the most about being a boy. If the person changed gender this question may open a can of worms. You don’t know if as a boy he was bullied or abused.
 
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You don’t understand…NOTHING that medical professionals say on this matter affects the moral goodness or badness of disordered sexual coupling. Nothing.

It’s disordered based solely on natural law grounds.
 
ConstantLearner said:
Gender is determined by far more than ones genitals.
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If the genitals are normal then gender is determined according to Catholic teaching. The physical body determines gender. God made them male and female.

A person’s sex identity is not determined by one’s subjective beliefs, desires or feelings. It is a function of his or her nature .
 
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