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Edward_H
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Bring beauty into the room. Art, music, and especially smiles.
Near the end, let the patient know that he is loved by a Father God.
Near the end, let the patient know that he is loved by a Father God.
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Edward_H
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It’s a disorder of some kind.
Classifying disorders, fundamentally, is the work of fools or political activists, not lovers of souls.
Classifying disorders, fundamentally, is the work of fools or political activists, not lovers of souls.
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Sophie111
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So is excessive heterosexuality (or weak heterosexuality).It’s a disorder of some kind.
The issue is the objective basis why alone label gender dysphoria a psychotic one.
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Edward_H
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This post is about what a generous nurse should do to help the dying.
It’s not a politcal soapbox to be used to grind away at silliness.
Heterosexuality is the definition of the natural order of the sexes. Complimentarity at multiple levels.
It’s not a politcal soapbox to be used to grind away at silliness.
Heterosexuality is the definition of the natural order of the sexes. Complimentarity at multiple levels.
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Sophie111
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I am not sure what your difficulty is.
Calling transgender issues a psychotic disorder is as soapbox as it gets.
Calling transgender issues a psychotic disorder is as soapbox as it gets.
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Edward_H
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That’s what my point was…it’s clearly a substantial disorder of the person/psyche, whether it’s a neuroses, or pschoses is a fool’s errand, too influenced by the politcally influenced psychobabblelists.
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Sophie111
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Well by harping on this unsubstantiated personal opinion as if it is a fact means you yourself are now soapboxing I would think.That’s what my point was…it’s clearly a substantial disorder of the person/psyche
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Edward_H
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I am not sure any longer what your point is.
My point remains crystal clear: it’s a serious disorder. it’s a disorder of kind, not one of degree, if you’re familiar with that notion from Greek thinking.
What difference does it make in this particular forum topic to wax hysterical as to whether it’s a classified as a pscyhosis or a neurosis, especially when psychologists and psychiatrists can’t agree on whether 1+1 = 2.
My point remains crystal clear: it’s a serious disorder. it’s a disorder of kind, not one of degree, if you’re familiar with that notion from Greek thinking.
What difference does it make in this particular forum topic to wax hysterical as to whether it’s a classified as a pscyhosis or a neurosis, especially when psychologists and psychiatrists can’t agree on whether 1+1 = 2.
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Sophie111
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Just my point. We dont know so lets not get up on soapboxes saying its a psychotic disorder.especially when psychologists and psychiatrists can’t agree
Basic Christian respect and justice quite apart from mercy.
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Edward_H
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Right. It’s a serious disorder, as I have said all along.
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Sophie111
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???.
For one who calls for the removal of soapboxes
I find your responses fascinating here.
God bless.
For one who calls for the removal of soapboxes
I find your responses fascinating here.
God bless.
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Edward_H
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Do you know if anorexia is considered a neurosis or a psychosis?
The parallels between transgenderism and anorexia are too strong to ignore/dismiss.
Ignoring the objective reality of one’s physical properties, declaring their feelings about such matters as trumping physical reality is a serious serious disorder.
One looks in the mirror at a shrivled body and they see fat.
Another looks in the mirror seeing a shapely woman and yet declaring themselves a male!
Too strong the parallels.
The parallels between transgenderism and anorexia are too strong to ignore/dismiss.
Ignoring the objective reality of one’s physical properties, declaring their feelings about such matters as trumping physical reality is a serious serious disorder.
One looks in the mirror at a shrivled body and they see fat.
Another looks in the mirror seeing a shapely woman and yet declaring themselves a male!
Too strong the parallels.
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TheAmazingGrace
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I don’t think you understand how gender dysphoria works. You can’t ignore physical traits and feel dysphoric about them at the same time.Ignoring the objective reality of one’s physical properties, declaring their feelings about such matters as trumping physical reality is a serious serious disorder.
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Edward_H
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No. You think you understand “how gender dysphoria” works, but the experts don’t. They don’t agree. That’s a problem, leaving you stranded, defending opinions that even the experts don’t converge on!
Your second sentence doesn’t make any sense. But this discussion doesn’t belong in this forum.
Parsimony is a principle of scientific reasoning.
The parallels between anorexia and [what today is called] “gender dyshoria” (realizing it might be called something different next year) are far too great, and the science too thin, to declare them wholly different.
Parsimony demands they be considered and treated as closely (given their similiarities) related until the science (real science…biology, neuroanatomy…not the “feeling sciences”…see your second sentence!) advances. Long long way away from that.
Your second sentence doesn’t make any sense. But this discussion doesn’t belong in this forum.
Parsimony is a principle of scientific reasoning.
The parallels between anorexia and [what today is called] “gender dyshoria” (realizing it might be called something different next year) are far too great, and the science too thin, to declare them wholly different.
Parsimony demands they be considered and treated as closely (given their similiarities) related until the science (real science…biology, neuroanatomy…not the “feeling sciences”…see your second sentence!) advances. Long long way away from that.
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TheAmazingGrace
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What parallels? Anorexia is born out of distorted body image. People with gender dysphoria are very much aware of their sexual characteristics, but feel uncomfortable with some or all of them. That’s why a number of them “transition.” It’s not looking in a mirror and seeing a different body than the one you occupy.The parallels between anorexia and [what today is called] “gender dyshoria” (realizing it might be called something different next year) are far too great, and the science too thin, to declare them wholly different.
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TheAmazingGrace
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That’s not how science works. You can’'t assume two things are related until you disprove parallels that were never validated in the first place.Parsimony demands they be considered and treated as closely (given their similiarities) related until the science (real science…biology, neuroanatomy…not the “feeling sciences”…see your second sentence!) advances. Long long way away from that.
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The truth is more important than feelings. Reality is reality. True Christian charity does not affirm this ideology, nor should you.
Truth with love
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Love without truth
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truth without love.
Truth with love
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Love without truth
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truth without love.
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o_mlly
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Illicit sexual preferences are the human condition resulting from Original Sin. Is promiscuity a psychotic disorder? No. Neither the promiscuous nor the homosexual have lost contact with reality.Is homosexuality a psychotic disorder also?
Though I do believe homophobia is more arguably a neurosis if not psychosis if we wish to go down this unhelpful path…
Neurosis and psychosis are mental disorders causing chronic distress. The former are non-delusional and the latter delusional.
Homophobia is a red herring in this discussion.
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Sophie111
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You beg the question.
What is delusional about gender dysphoria?
Do you also believe it is delusional for a person with male genitalia to be attracted exclusively to other hot males?
Sex (external sexual morphology) and gender (what our brain/hormones constantly tell us) are two different things both of which are largely hardened and set beyond out control by the time we are adults - sometimes from birth.
What is delusional about gender dysphoria?
Do you also believe it is delusional for a person with male genitalia to be attracted exclusively to other hot males?
Sex (external sexual morphology) and gender (what our brain/hormones constantly tell us) are two different things both of which are largely hardened and set beyond out control by the time we are adults - sometimes from birth.
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o_mlly
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No, I answered the OP’s question.You beg the question.
Different questions. Start a new thread(s).What is delusional about gender dysphoria?
Do you also believe it is delusional for a person with male genitalia to be attracted exclusively to other hot males?
Sex (external sexual morphology) and gender (what our brain/hormones constantly tell us) are two different things both of which are largely hardened and set beyond out control by the time we are adults - sometimes from birth.
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