Dilemma with a transgender patient

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So knowledge not internalized by this or that doctor invalidates the knowledge?

Interesting.

Did you vote for Bill Clinton knowing he was a serial adulterer and abuser?
 
I wouldn’t worry about names. I would however let this person know Jesus loves them and will comfort them if they want to accept ot.
 
It’s not off topic to pursue an assertion that you made, to understand its limits.

You made a claim that someone’s own application of knowledge determines whether you think it’s true or not, which is anti-rational. It’s saying that truth doesn’t exist outside of someone else’s application of it, which is bizarre.
 
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I don’t even know what you’re talking about now.

I stand by my assertion that only G-d can judge one’s soul. “Judge not, lest you be so judged.”

“Why do you see the splinter in your brother’s eye but do not notice the log in your own eye? … You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly enough to take the splinter out of your brother’s eye.”
 
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Final judgement’s is God’s alone.

But Jesus says…“If your brother sins, rebuke him”…that requires a moral judgement be made in the first place.

So think it through deeper.
 
ConstantLearner said:
I stand by my assertion that only G-d can judge one’s soul. “Judge not, lest you be so judged.”

“Why do you see the splinter in your brother’s eye but do not notice the log in your own eye? … You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly enough to take the splinter out of your brother’s eye.”
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Oh boy. Here we go with “Bible Bingo.”

“Someone who sees his friend who sinned, or who is walking in a bad path—it is a Mitzvah to return him to good, and to know that he is sinning in his evil ways, as it is written: ‘You shall surely rebuke your friend’” [1].”

We are obligated to judge the morality of the act, not the actor.
 
You are off-topic, which you seem to abhor. So, let’s get back to the topic.
 
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ConstantLearner said:
You are off-topic, which upi seem to abhor.
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Another fraternal correction, friend?

No, the post in on-topic. The topic is a particular instance of the obligation to give fraternal correction. Please pay closer attention to the thread.
 
Edward_H said:
But Jesus says…“If your brother sins, rebuke him”…that requires a moral judgement be made in the first place.
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Since when did it become a sin to change one’s name? That’s the problem: the nurse didn’t want to call the patient by the patient’s preferred name.
 
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Yes, he said rebuke them. Did he say rebuke on their deathbed for a sin they are unlikely to have an opportunity to commit again?
 
LoganBryce said:
Yes, he said rebuke them. Did he say rebuke on their deathbed for a sin they are unlikely to have an opportunity to commit again?
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How do you get there from: “We are obligated to judge the morality of the act, not the actor”?

Posts that are replying to me actually respond to the straw man argument launched by Sophie who then proceeded to have my actual post deleted. ???

In the deleted post, I wrote that the OP’s obligation as nurse is palliative care, that is to provide comfort to the patient, not antagonize him. So stop with the rebuttals to an argument I never made!
 
Well it’s a sin to lie. We must be truthful.

someone’s opinion about their sex doesn’t change the fact.

If a robber says “I am not a robber”…it’s a sin to deny it.

Still, charity doesn’t demand use of one pronoun or another…one could simply say “the patient”
 
Opening up somebody’s past may be your last act of compassion as a nurse. If he’s going to hell, why not put one little obstacle in his path, a discussion that could help him to see where his beliefs are wrong?

You have a certain view of compassion. There is a place for saying nothing, but there’s also a place to help save a person’s soul.

I learnt about this greater love when I was young. My father advised my aunt not to marry a certain man. She thanked him years later, but at the time she was upset. Within months she had forgotten the guy and moved on to her better man, what was to become her husband.
Was my father lacking in compassion or love, or was he abundant in love? Most people like you would have said MYOB, but he saw the better vision.
 
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Still, charity doesn’t demand use of one pronoun or another…one could simply say “the patient”
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She has to address the patient at times. If she can’t bring herself to use the patient’s preferred name, then I think she should ask her supervisor to reassign her. It’s just a name. No one is asking her to approve of something the Church doesn’t approve of. And I know women named “Michael” and “Alex” and men named “Ashley” and “Leslie,” so I don’t see any problem.

Her job is to comfort and care for the sick.
 
Lara said:
Opening up somebody’s past may be your last act of compassion as a nurse. If he’s going to hell, why not put one little obstacle in his path, a discussion that could help him to see where his beliefs are wrong?
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Oh, for heaven’s sake! More misplaced judgment! Whatever happened to compassion? The poor person had three days to live! But no one knows if he’s going to hell!
 
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if you’re going to address the patient…you’d use the second person pronoun YOU/YOUR.

No problem.
 
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buffalo said:
Yes.

And the person’s intentions are key.

Truth with love

not

Love without truth
or
Truth without love
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Your idea of “truth with love” resembles neither. Would you want to be pestered by some armchair theologian on your deathbed?
 
Lara have you ever seen somebody in the last days of life? I guarantee you that the last thing they are going to do is to engage in a philosophical discussion. Plus you have to consider that a relationship with a patient is not the same as with people knowing each other for a long time and being in the same family. The op asked a simple question. What pronoun to use with the patient. She will be taking care of the patient lovingly, she will pray for him/her but I think it would be inappropriate to start a theological discussion. Keep in mind people in the terminal phase are often sedated or in pain. I think if the patient belongs to a specific religion she could kindly suggest if s/he would like to meet with a minister. You don’t know anything about the patient, for what we know s/he may go to Heaven faster than us. Remeber the gospel verse "Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you’.
 
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