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Gorgias
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Well, more like 1000 years, if you consider Leif Eriksson. And, more like 16-17K years ago, if you consider the crossing of the Bering land bridge and entry into North America from Asia!
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CaptainPrudeman
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Erickson’s vikings found America, but never stayed. They told people about this mythical “Vinland” but the rumors eventually dried up as people lost interest and nobody ever went back.
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PickyPicky
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You see? People call the Vikings murderous louts, but they had more sense than you’d think.
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CaptainPrudeman
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Most of our ancestors only got the murder end of the stick, but they weren’t totally barbaric. Some even settled in France and became the Normans.
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PickyPicky
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I’m afraid that, to me, that is not a point in their favour. The Normans were an unpleasant lot.
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CaptainPrudeman
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Wênan heonu sê hnot bêon? we fr¯æge lîcian ðês!
Me, I can’t imagine doing all those accents and weird letters. Modern English is good enough for me, even if it’s a product of invasion.
Me, I can’t imagine doing all those accents and weird letters. Modern English is good enough for me, even if it’s a product of invasion.
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whatistrue
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I once read an interesting description of the origins of English: The result of Norman soldiers trying to make dates with Saxon barmaids.
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PickyPicky
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Certainly Old English with circumflexes (circumfleces?) is very unwieldy.
Yep, it’s pretty darned good. So’s slightly less modern English, like what old b*ggers like me talk.
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GKMotley
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They liked Spam.
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Freddy
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Some of the comments in this thread are Pythonesque as it is.
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GKMotley
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I’m Pythonesque myself.
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Freddy
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Knowledge is not trivial.
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Freddy
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I’d like to think that no-one could argue with that.
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Buzzard3
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Their carbon dating is faulty, I expect. The history of the world suggests man hasn’t been around for anywhere near 80,000 years.
He earliest forms of writing appear at about 3500BC.
Are we to believe it took humans more than 70,000 years to come up with writing? No, I don’t think so.
Ditto for the wheel (3500BC) - according to Darwinist folklore, humans are so stupid it took them more than 70,000 years to invent something as basic as a wheel.
Metallurgy - discovered 5000-3000BC.
History suggests humans haven’t been around for anywhere near 80,000 years.
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Buzzard3
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Who needs a land bridge when you could quite easily cross the Bering Strait in a boat? It’s only 50 miles wide.
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Buzzard3
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Sounds unlikely - no one would lose interest in free, fertile land.
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Freddy
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Again, there is no ‘Darwinist folklore’. You might as well talk about Galilean folklore or Newtonian folklore. And man didn’t appear a bare 80,000 years ago. We emerged from Africa approximately 300,000 years ago. We arrived in Australia 80,000 years ago.Freddy:
Their carbon dating is faulty, I expect. The history of the world suggests man hasn’t been around for anywhere near 80,000 years.
He earliest forms of writing appear at about 3500BC.
Are we to believe it took humans more than 70,000 years to come up with writing? No, I don’t think so.
Ditto for the wheel (3500BC) - according to Darwinist folklore, humans are so stupid it took them more than 70,000 years to invent something as basic as a wheel.
And incidentally, the wheel only made an appearance around 3,500 years ago. And not in Australia or America. Or the inhabitants of the New World.
If you’re going to argue against something then you need to study it a little first.
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CaptainPrudeman
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For the vast majority of our history, humans were too busy getting bodied by nature to actually accomplish much. There have been multiple points where we were actually an endangered species. Plus, worldwide conditions from the last Ice Age didn’t clear up for a long while, and this prevented agriculture from taking hold. So writing, a concept that can’t really exist without society, was bottlenecked by agriculture. Everything was, really. If you need to move to find food, more energy is spent on that than exchanging ideas and inventing things. It’s not a coincidence that metallurgy, the wheel, and writing all emerged once agriculture did. They all depended on the exchange of ideas, since none of those things have a natural analogue that humans could have observed prior to society.
Siberia, especially in early human history, was an inhospitable wasteland. Barely anybody lived there, and even those that did didn’t have a reason to cross the strait. The people that did cross the strait did so chasing herds of prey across a land bridge or something similar. When the strait flooded, there was no more incentive to cross, so nobody did.
Free? Yes. Hospitable? Very much no. Very far from home, pretty cold, and filled with hostile natives. The vikings were smart to leave, because they had pretty much no chance of survival if they stayed.
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Buzzard3
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Right, so humans have existed for 300,000 years but they only discovered writing, the wheel and metallurgy in the last 3500 years? That makes no sense.
At what point does God creating man in his image (Adam and Eve) fit into your
Darwinist tale?
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Buzzard3
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So the Vikings didn’t stay but Columbus and his mob did. Those Vikings must have been wimps!
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