That is just it… I don’t think this is an emergeny situation and I think calling it that is sensationalistic. It could be one, I’ll give you that but it isn’t, If this is truely an emergency then how embarassing for the USCCB to not be timely, uniform, or clear on this.
I don’t think the Holy See supports this. But I think the positive that comes out of this is that maybe there will be some clarity within the Church leadership on how to handle these things. Like i said in much worse conditions than these in the US the Church has NO impediment for Reception. I take this flu thinkg not so much as a joke, or an emergency but a nice way to refresh and tune up and keep sharp for a much bigger issue, and in this day and age it seems the much bigger issue is right around the corner.
You really think (bet) Pope Benedict XVI would condone a bishop ordering the faithful entrusted to him to only receive Holy Communion in the hand, or forbid them from receiving on the tongue ( amounts to the same thing)
I rather receive communion by mouth. I am not worthy to touch Jesus with my hands. By the way, there are a few saints, I can’t remember their names, who served the sickly and diseased and became sick with the same disease. They were not considered murderers. I am sure God’s presence did not allow them to infect others either.
I think Pope Benedict has condemned giving Communion to politicians in mortal sin and heresy, which is not something he has an option about condemning because it can’t be changed – no one in mortal sin and heresy may receive, and yet the bishops are defying him openly using twisted words to put a ‘good face’ on it.You really think (bet) Pope Benedict XVI would condone a bishop ordering the faithful entrusted to him to only receive Holy Communion in the hand, or forbid them from receiving on the tongue ( amounts to the same thing)
I work in a hospital and believe me, it was full-scale EMERGENCY! We were swamped with specimens, and logged a lot of overtime trying to deal with the whole thing. This was actually worse than the anthrax scare of 2001.
I thnk the media got your points of round the clock hysteria down pat. Thank God for your Bishps, ours did nothing and we have a whole 3 cases.
For this situation (if there is situation and I’m not sold on the idea that there is)? Yes, I believe that if the medical field rec. modifications for safety’s sake and bishops acted on those rec., the Holy See would leave it to the bishops. Now, if a bishop failed to permit it EVER, then no, I think the Holy See wouldn’t stand for it).You really think (bet) Pope Benedict XVI would condone a bishop ordering the faithful entrusted to him to only receive Holy Communion in the hand, or forbid them from receiving on the tongue ( amounts to the same thing)
It’s un-Catholic to think that a discipline of the Church is wrong in the sense of being evil or sacreligious. The Church CANNOT propose to the faithful any practice or discipline that will lead the faithful into impiety. Therefore, reception in the hand is not, of itself, wrong. That’s negative infallibility (which you can look up). One doesn’t have to agree that the practice is prudentially wise or that is equally reverent, but one cannot say it is so wrong that they would never recieve that way, because Christ has left the authority to govern the discipline surrounding His Sacraments to His Church, the Same Christ Who said, “Except you eat the Flesh of the Son of Man and drink His Blood, you have no life within you.” Should the Church, in Her prudential judgment, decree that for sanitary reasons, either for a time or permanently, the Most Sacred Body will be given in the hand, would you refuse to eat that Flesh? If you say yes, then how do you fufill the command of Christ? In my time as a Catholic, the bishop and/or my pastor has decided that for a time the Most Precious Blood in Its Seperate Species would be witheld. In that circumstance, it would be quite wrong to insist that It NOT be witheld. Should the Church in Her Wisdom decide to end the indult and require all Catholics to recieve on the tongue, it would be just as wrong to refuse to receive.
I think your premise is a Charitable one. But I don’t think the Bishops are recieving ANY sort of credible unified information. What I do see missing here is a sense of logic on the prt of the populace. No traditionalist communion but go ahead and use those self check touch screens at the supermarket. No sign of peace, but no one is wearing masks either. Can you imagine walking into a supermarket and the checker is wearing a mask? I mean it makes sense. You getThe flu, where do you go before the Doc? Thats right, the store to buy yourself some NyQuil. But you don’t see a social breakdown like in mexico. Why? well, it isn’t for lack of coverage, Between the internet and 24/7 News coverage and news papers and magazines, you can’t escape it. the only answer I see is that perhaps we are being given conflicting messages. Like I said before, How is this SO serious that a bishop in Calif or IL bans something that a Bishop in Idaho, or Texas does not. Bottom line, it is safe to spend your money in stores but not safe to recieve on the tounge. that sounds a little fishy to me. Let the cashier who has touched money from 100 people before you, scan your lettuce and go ahead and run it under some cold water (yeah like that kills th virus) Bottom line, virus goes from someone to you throgh your mouth. Gosh, that almost sounds like Communion.
I too am “totally flummoxed by this thread”
I don’t believe people are despicable for taking communion on the tongue. I take it on the tongue. But given the current health risk and my diocese’s restriction on this, I have no problem taking it in the hand. As you said, this is about Christ, not about me. The important thing here is to receive communion. No one is depriving me of that. They are simply trying to minimize the spread of a virus that has already claimed seven people in my county. I for one am comfortable with the bishop’s direction. It would be very unchristian to refrain from reducing the risk of infection, because I don’t like communion in the hand. Tradition, feelings and common sense must work together.
I apologize weepixie71. I didn’t mean to imply the priest would lie….But reporters, especially those with their own agenda. I’ve unwillingly ( after some poor unfair treatment by certain governmental bodies here) become finely tuned to language which is ambiguous and more seriously, prevaricative and equivocal. Often the latter is not so unintentional.