Dioceses and cities

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Hi!!!

Does anyone know where can I get a list of all dioceses of the USA and their respective cities?

Like this:

Diocese of Orange
Cities: x,y.z

Diocese of Oakland
Cities: a,b,c

Or maybe a xls file.
 
Thank you Oneofthewomen and SMHW!

In reality, what I need is also the cities.

In the list of wikipedia and USCCB I found only the name of the dioceses…:confused:
 
cantorum said:
Thank you Oneofthewomen and SMHW!

In reality, what I need is also the cities.

In the list of wikipedia and USCCB I found only the name of the dioceses…:confused:
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Finding lists of cities would be hard. Especially since “city” may mean something different in each state. Dioceses are more likely to be connected to a county than a city.

What are you trying to do with this information?
 
SMHW said:
Finding lists of cities would be hard. Especially since “city” may mean something different in each state. Dioceses are more likely to be connected to a county than a city.
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Err, all of the dioceses I see in the USA list are named after the city they are headquartered in. While a diocese is frequently larger than this area, they do not necessarily correspond to county or city limits. In fact, perusing this map of dioceses, it appears to me as if dioceses are almost always larger than one county.
 
SMHW,

That is a good idea!
There is no problem to be county. With that I could do the table and select cities in each diocese.
I’m making a spreadsheet to show in a map.
 
This is a link with other very good map with the dioceses but there is no name of the cities:

Dioceses Map
 
cantorum said:
This is a link with other very good map with the dioceses but there is no name of the cities:
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The state of Idaho has about 200 cities, all in one diocese. Is it your intent to list every one of these cities in your spreadsheet, and do the same for every other diocese?
 
Digitonomy said:
The state of Idaho has about 200 cities, all in one diocese. Is it your intent to list every one of these cities in your spreadsheet, and do the same for every other diocese?
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Digitonomy,

Exactly! I already have a database with all cities, states and county, around 30,000, and I will put the name of each diocese in each city.
Of course if I have a list of these 200 cities I will make a script to import then. 🙂
But whe have around 200 dioceses in the USA…
 
Elizium23 said:
Err, all of the dioceses I see in the USA list are named after the city they are headquartered in. While a diocese is frequently larger than this area, they do not necessarily correspond to county or city limits. In fact, perusing this map of dioceses, it appears to me as if dioceses are almost always larger than one county.
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I don’t know other states but in Michigan the names of the dioceses are cities but we are assigned to the diocese by county. And Yes more than one county in a diocese just like there is more than one city in the vast majority of dioceses named for the city

I can see how this could be hard. Do villages count as cities? The definition does vary from state to state
 
I think you would be the first to make a list of all the cities within all the dioceses. No such master list exists to my knowledge. It sounds like you are basically talking about a list of every city in the United States, but categorized based on diocese. That is a monumental undertaking!

Wikipedia generally lists all the counties that are contained in each diocese. That would probably be the easiest way I can think of to navigate through the information. Most diocesan websites contain that information, too, but since every diocesan website is set up differently, it may take longer to locate the information you are looking for.
 
Dioceses do almost always fall along county and state lines. The only diocese I can think of that spans more than one state is the Diocese of Gallup. It is in New Mexico and Arizona. That is largely due to the Native American demographic of the area. But I think even that diocese still falls along county lines. I don’t know of any one county that is split between two dioceses. But it’s possible that is the case somewhere.

EDIT: I forgot about the Archdiocese of Washington D.C. That contains parts of Maryland. In looking at the diocesan map linked to above, it looks like the Diocese of Wilmington covers Delaware and parts of Maryland, too. It still looks like everything breaks down by county, though.
 
I hope you have a lot of time on your hands. You’ve probably figured this out already, but it will probably be easiest to do the states that have just one or two dioceses first, before tackling Florida, New York, California, etc. Tackling it county by county should simplify things a lot, since lists of cities in each county aren’t tough to come by.

One thing that could complicate matters is cities that extend into adjacent counties. In many cases this is already taken into account when the borders of the diocese were set, but sometimes a city in Diocese A may lie near a county line, and annex land in the County B, which of course is part of Diocese B. Those new residents of the city are still subject to Bishop B, even though most of your sources for your spreadsheet will simply list the city as being in County A.

Another matter is whether you intend to limit this to Latin dioceses, or also include the various Eastern eparchies.

Will your work be publicly available?
 
Joe_5859 said:
Dioceses do almost always fall along county and state lines. The only diocese I can think of that spans more than one state is the Diocese of Gallup. It is in New Mexico and Arizona. That is largely due to the Native American demographic of the area. But I think even that diocese still falls along county lines. I don’t know of any one county that is split between two dioceses. But it’s possible that is the case somewhere.

EDIT: I forgot about the Archdiocese of Washington D.C. That contains parts of Maryland. In looking at the diocesan map linked to above, it looks like the Diocese of Wilmington covers Delaware and parts of Maryland, too. It still looks like everything breaks down by county, though.
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They don’t always fall along county lines though. In Nebraska I know that because the Lincoln diocese includes everything south of the Platte River, there are counties that are in two dioceses, there is even a city that is split between the Lincoln and Grand Island Dioceses and has one parish in the Lincoln Diocese, and one in the Grand Island Diocese. So it does happen that counties and even cities are split.
 
WildCatholic said:
They don’t always fall along county lines though. In Nebraska I know that because the Lincoln diocese includes everything south of the Platte River, there are counties that are in two dioceses, there is even a city that is split between the Lincoln and Grand Island Dioceses and has one parish in the Lincoln Diocese, and one in the Grand Island Diocese. So it does happen that counties and even cities are split.
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Thanks for giving more background. Obviously my knowledge is limited. :o That is very interesting.
 
Digitonomy said:
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Will your work be publicly available?
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Digitonomy,

Very tanks for the explanation. As you see, it is not easy:(
I dont have intention of publishing this data but I can leave it here, after finished, for download.
I think it will be very usefull for all.
 
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