Discerning Vocation While (for now) Remaining in Secular School

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Let me start by saying I haven’t allowed enough time or dedication to this area of my spiritual life (vocational discernment) yet by any measure, but it’s something I’ve been trying to get a hold on for a while now.

I’m currently a music and premedicine double major at a state school; it’s a nearly absurd combination with an almost equally absurd amount of school-related work and time-commitment, but I love both sides of this fence and enjoy the work involved in both sides too. These things, even in themselves, seem to have put a certain limit on how much time I can give to prayer and spiritual growth daily, seeing as I came from a very orthodox Jesuit high school where I had the opportunity for morning mass before EVERY school day. Not that I made it to mass 7 times a week, but the opportunity was there and I did go as much as possible.

Anyway, at this point, I’m in a situation where I’m trying to live spiritually within an extremely secular and often nearly pagan surrounding culture. I’ve been told by priests and older Catholics that this is a common period in the spiritual journey in which I’m being called to grow more personally in faith even when I’m not in a spiritually-saturated environment.

Moving on, I’m always trying to stay open to a priestly vocation, and I’ve recently felt very called in this direction, but also often called to fatherhood. A Jesuit priest has told me that a priest should have all the qualities of a good father, and so it is often someone difficult, at first, to discern the distinction in these two vocations.

And finally to the point of the post: if I stay in school and [somehow] complete undergrad work in 4 years, go on to medical school, finish my residency and internship, and finally become a working doctor of medicine, will I have blocked out God’s potential call to the priesthood? I mean, by that point i will be in my mid-30’s without much college-level theology courses under my belt. Additionally, right now, I am on a very full (somewhat “more than” full) scholarship at my University, so I would find it something of a waste to give up my undergrad scholarship and hop into a seminary before I finish undergrad work.

And if I were, in theory, to pursue a religious order of the priesthood instead of the secular [diocesan] priesthood, such as the Jesuits, I would have to consider around 10 more years of formation and study.

What I’m trying to determine is essentially this: if I continue on my current path of schooling, will I effectively push God’s vocation for me out of the realm of practicality or possibility?

Is the formation for religious orders or diocesan priests usually shorter with some previous schooling? As far as I know, the Jesuits, for example, do not have any fees associated with their seminarians’ training, but what about other orders or normal priests?

I guess the root problem trying to bring myself to lay down my future secular and nonsecular potential opportunities before God’s will, rather than try to control everything. I’m not even completely sure I’ve legitimately asked a good question here, but oh well. 😛
 
Let me start by saying I haven’t allowed enough time or dedication to this area of my spiritual life (vocational discernment) yet by any measure, but it’s something I’ve been trying to get a hold on for a while now.

**I should start by saying you are in my prayers as you discern your vocation. It’s not easy. Take it slowly, talk to loads of people, especially vocations directors. **

I’m currently a music and premedicine double major at a state school; it’s a nearly absurd combination with an almost equally absurd amount of school-related work and time-commitment, but I love both sides of this fence and enjoy the work involved in both sides too. These things, even in themselves, seem to have put a certain limit on how much time I can give to prayer and spiritual growth daily, seeing as I came from a very orthodox Jesuit high school where I had the opportunity for morning mass before EVERY school day. Not that I made it to mass 7 times a week, but the opportunity was there and I did go as much as possible.
That all sounds good.

Anyway, at this point, I’m in a situation where I’m trying to live spiritually within an extremely secular and often nearly pagan surrounding culture. I’ve been told by priests and older Catholics that this is a common period in the spiritual journey in which I’m being called to grow more personally in faith even when I’m not in a spiritually-saturated environment.
**I think we all have that problem. It’s part of living in the real world, I guess. **

Moving on, I’m always trying to stay open to a priestly vocation, and I’ve recently felt very called in this direction, but also often called to fatherhood. A Jesuit priest has told me that a priest should have all the qualities of a good father, and so it is often someone difficult, at first, to discern the distinction in these two vocations.
**I would agree with the Jesuit. It’s never easy to discern whether God really wants you to eschew the married life. **

And finally to the point of the post: if I stay in school and [somehow] complete undergrad work in 4 years, go on to medical school, finish my residency and internship, and finally become a working doctor of medicine, will I have blocked out God’s potential call to the priesthood? I mean, by that point i will be in my mid-30’s without much college-level theology courses under my belt. Additionally, right now, I am on a very full (somewhat “more than” full) scholarship at my University, so I would find it something of a waste to give up my undergrad scholarship and hop into a seminary before I finish undergrad work.
**You can finish your undergrad work. You can become a doctor. There are some priests who are doctors, mostly missionaries. But you can enter seminary any time until you are 30, in most places. Then they often have older man’s seminaries, like the Beda College in Rome. So don’t worry. But be sure God is calling to you to work in the secular world for a time, and you aren’t just delaying answering the call. **

And if I were, in theory, to pursue a religious order of the priesthood instead of the secular [diocesan] priesthood, such as the Jesuits, I would have to consider around 10 more years of formation and study.
**I would imagine. But that would be part and parcel of the religious life, but not the sum total of your life. I imagine it would be a very different experience from being a med student. **

What I’m trying to determine is essentially this: if I continue on my current path of schooling, will I effectively push God’s vocation for me out of the realm of practicality or possibility?
**Short Answer: No. Long Answer: You don’t probably want to spend the first 35 years of your life studying. Maybe the idea would be to work as a doctor, and live a spiritual life for a while, then enter the order. Or don’t go for the doctorate. I have no easy answers, I’m afraid. **

Is the formation for religious orders or diocesan priests usually shorter with some previous schooling? As far as I know, the Jesuits, for example, do not have any fees associated with their seminarians’ training, but what about other orders or normal priests?
**Normally secular priests are asked to make some contribution if they can, for example books and clothes etc. But the order would provide if you are a religious. They have no money of their own, after all. **

I guess the root problem trying to bring myself to lay down my future secular and nonsecular potential opportunities before God’s will, rather than try to control everything. I’m not even completely sure I’ve legitimately asked a good question here, but oh well. 😛
**I hope I have helped a bit, but there are no easy answers. Many people are going through similar situations as you. You are in my prayers. **
 
Wow, I have the same problem! I’m going to a state college, again with a double major, (but I love the work! 🙂 ) And I’m in the honors program, so as far as I can tell, I’m the only Christian, let alone Catholic, in my three honors program classes (all of whom say they’re athiests, humanists, or agnostics). The strange thing is that this “pagan” athmosphere is helping (rather than hurting) me more along a path of discernment.

I really want to be a mother, but I also really want to help the world’s children and unborn too. If I could do both, then I would!

My other problem with being in a secular school is that all the guys are (no offense to anyone intended), gay, taken, or a jerk. 🤷 I don’t want this absence of guys (plus the fact that I’ve never dated before) be the only reason why I’m considering becoming a nun. How can I make sure that my discernment is for purely holy reasons?
 
And finally to the point of the post: if I stay in school and [somehow] complete undergrad work in 4 years, go on to medical school, finish my residency and internship, and finally become a working doctor of medicine, will I have blocked out God’s potential call to the priesthood? I mean, by that point i will be in my mid-30’s without much college-level theology courses under my belt. Additionally, right now, I am on a very full (somewhat “more than” full) scholarship at my University, so I would find it something of a waste to give up my undergrad scholarship and hop into a seminary before I finish undergrad work.
A friend of mine currently in the novitiate did just this, except he did not have the music major.

Seminaries do not require much in the way of theology, 12 credits now I believe. It is philosophy that is the big one, 32 Credit hours in that.

He came to the pre-novitiate where we work on those requirements, he is also over thirty (he also spent a term in the military).

So he is an MD in his thirties and working though the formation program.
 
Wow, I have the same problem! I’m going to a state college, again with a double major, (but I love the work! 🙂 ) And I’m in the honors program, so as far as I can tell, I’m the only Christian, let alone Catholic, in my three honors program classes (all of whom say they’re athiests, humanists, or agnostics). The strange thing is that this “pagan” athmosphere is helping (rather than hurting) me more along a path of discernment.

I really want to be a mother, but I also really want to help the world’s children and unborn too. If I could do both, then I would!

My other problem with being in a secular school is that all the guys are (no offense to anyone intended), gay, taken, or a jerk. 🤷 I don’t want this absence of guys (plus the fact that I’ve never dated before) be the only reason why I’m considering becoming a nun. How can I make sure that my discernment is for purely holy reasons?
Dear holly,
First let me say you are in my prayers. God always needs more good mothers and more good nuns.

I share your experience of secularised education enhancing my faith: at my secular school, I am called upon to defend the Church, and that has really heightened my faith.

As for discerning, spend some time with some nuns, and experience the life. Pray. Listen to the call and then respond with all your heart.

God Bless.
 
Wow, I have the same problem! I’m going to a state college, again with a double major, (but I love the work! 🙂 ) And I’m in the honors program, so as far as I can tell, I’m the only Christian, let alone Catholic, in my three honors program classes (all of whom say they’re athiests, humanists, or agnostics). The strange thing is that this “pagan” athmosphere is helping (rather than hurting) me more along a path of discernment.

I really want to be a mother, but I also really want to help the world’s children and unborn too. If I could do both, then I would!

My other problem with being in a secular school is that all the guys are (no offense to anyone intended), gay, taken, or a jerk. 🤷 I don’t want this absence of guys (plus the fact that I’ve never dated before) be the only reason why I’m considering becoming a nun. How can I make sure that my discernment is for purely holy reasons?
does your state college have a Newman Center? Get involved with that if they do.
 
It is always great to hear other people that are going through the same things!

I just graduated from a public university in December with a B.Sc. in Zoology, Biomedical Science, and a History Minor. I was planning on going to medical school and thought that everything that had happened in my life clearly pointed me in that direction. I worked at the National Institutes of Health for a summer and was on an emergency medical team in a remote region of Alaska for another summer. I had full scholarships through college and received a full-paid grant for medical school.

Even as I was preparing for the MCAT, my mind would wonder to the priesthood. I would quickly tell myself to focus on studying and to put the priesthood out of my mind. The “call” became stronger, but I kept supressing it. I eventually took the MCAT and lifted a huge burden from my shoulders!

After finishing the MCAT I began realizing that if I didn’t take an honest look at the priesthood, I might regret it. So, I started checking around and began realizing that everything that I had experienced had shaped me, perhaps not to be a doctor, but to become a priest.

After a lot of prayer, I finally decided to at least check out the seminary. It was really hard for my family to accept my decision, but they are now completely behind me.

In fact, I am finished with all of the evaluations and interviews and the vocations committee in my diocese is considering my application this week. I know this is what God is calling me to do, because I have never been as happy as I am now.

I will be praying for you on your discernment. The great thing to remember is that the seminary is the best place to discern your vocation, either as a priest, doctor, or even something else. If it didn’t work out you could start medical school the next year!

God will guide you to what you are being called to do!
 
Wow, it really is great to hear about that, briami. One of the things I’m strugging with is just that issue - what to do if I am well-qualified for medical school after undergrad but feel that I need to give the seminary a chance.

So good to hear about your own movement towards God.

Thanks, all, for the replies and suggestions.
 
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