Discussions with a Muslim

[John_19_59]

They don’t exclude others from unconditional love and acceptance.

I know this is “outdated eclessiology” but…

God is going to do some excluding on the day of judgement.

Matthew 25 makes sober reading.

Lord have mercy on us all.

 

[misterX]

you often see contradictions in the bible… small ones but contradictions none the less. but in a way isee these as a good thing… you sometimes have the same stories happening written by different wittnesses. Now you can ask any cop, that if you get 10 different people wittnessing the same thing you’ll get ten different versions but they all tell the same story…if the bible matched up excatly on everything. then i would be worried that it was all planned…

 

[Axion]

4 marks:

Far too often self-righteous Catholics go around pointing fingers at others. I’ve heard it all…“She’s been divorced and is now remarried…no anullment…tisk, tisk,” or “Father is probably just another one of those liberal post-Vatican II types,” or “That couple chose to abort their first child because they are just selfish people.”
Humble people look beyond all the baggage and recognize the good in others. They don’t exclude others from unconditional love and acceptance.

Killing your firstborn child, and divorce are not “baggage”! Divorce is against the direct command of Jesus . And killing a child is one of the darkest crimes imaginable! Arguing as if these things are some sort of triviality to be ignored and glossed over denies all the teachings in the gospels.

Christianity will not grow or develop by becoming a blessing service for making people feel good about their crimes and vanities. (You will note that Islam certainly does not do this.}

 

[John_19_59]

Christianity will not grow or develop by becoming a blessing service for making people feel good about their crimes and vanities.

The “Church” of England is proof of that.

 

[bengeorge]

4 marks:

Moslems are not our enemies. They are our friends. Together with our Jewish brothers and sisters, we are people of the Book, and fellow children of Abraham.

What? No, “people of the book” is Islam’s term for us. I am not a “people of the book”. And as far as being the fellow children of Abraham is concerned, they get that reverence for Abraham from “Gabriel” who supposedly came down from heaven to speak to Mohammed, who told him that Christ is not God.

Muslims belive in a lie from hell. A particularly effective lie.

We must love Muslims, but to love Islam is a relativist mistake.

 

[RonWI]

As to the original question, here is what one Lutheran pastor said:

Joseph was the product of a Levirite marriage. That is, Joseph’s mom was married to Jacob, but he died without having children. So, she married his next closest relative, Heli. The first son of their union, Joseph, would be considered the son of Jacob by the Jews and inherit all of Jacob’s property.

Legally, from the Gentile perspective, Joseph was the son of Heli. From the Jewish perspective, Joseph was the son of Jacob. Luke writes with a Gentile persepective; Matthew from a Jewish one.

I find this explanation to make a lot of sense.

Someone else directed me to pages 5-7 of this:

aramaicpeshitta.com/Peshitta_Dummies_FirstEd.pdf