Disheartened in marriage

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I absolutely agree with some of the replies you’ve already received. 🙂

I would also suggest writing letters to each other, or if he doesn’t like that idea, then you write letters to him. You can get your feelings out on paper, and then organize them into a letter to your husband. This way, you can truly communicate what you want to say, without trying to think about what you want to say, and put it into words, and respond to his replies to what you’ve said, all at the same time.

Write a loving letter to him about how it makes you feel when you don’t receive an apology for hurtful words. Try to avoid “you” statements, like “You hurt me and then don’t apologize for it. You make me feel…”; instead, stick to talking about you two as a team, like, “When we say mean things to each other, and there are no apologies later for those hurtful words, I feel…” Remember to include the positives, too: “When we do apologize to each other, I feel…”

Then, if he’s willing, let him read it, and give him time to process your words and feelings before you talk about it. But don’t use the letter as a way to try to get him to change–this is about trying to communicate, trying to share how you feel. It’s not “you against me,” it should be a reminder that you’re both on the same team, so remember to use loving words in your letters, too.

If he’s not willing to read and/or discuss it, then I would second the idea of looking for “more than words” and seeing an apology in his actions. Actually, I would second that idea, anyway, because some people may say “sorry,” but their actions show they don’t really mean it–while you apparently have a man who shows it, even if he doesn’t say it, and I think that’s better! 👍

Will pray for you!
This is a great post and the letter writing is the foundation of the Retrouvaille program. The main thing to know about feelings is that they are neither right nor wrong. They are just feelings and once they are out there the worst thing is to tell someone they shouldn’t feel that way. A better approach is to ask if there’s anyway you could make a negative feeling more positive. As for the apology, usually when I have something to apologize for, so does my wife and we BOTH really do want to apologize but it’s difficult for the husband to initiate it. If my wife starts with something like “I can see your feeling blue and I’m sorry about that, is there anything I can do to help”, we usually get to the root and both end up with an apology. To us guy’s, it’s like asking directions when driving…we just don’t do it because someone tells us we should. Communication is the key and writing a letter in private is a good way to do that. It’s also important to verify what each other is felling by asking for clarification and acknowledging your understanding. Good luck to you two!
 
My husband is like this too. He blows up, spews out garbage and then it’s like nothing happened. Some people are just like that. They need a release…get it all out and then it’s gone.

A therapist once compared it to a balloon flying aroud the room and it’s losing it’s air. Eventually it just falls on the floor flat and out of air. Now when hubby is having a go at me, I literally visualize the balloon. It helps me.
Dear Serap-- I think this might help because I can almost picture a balloon with his face on it flying around the room… & correct he does eventually stop…;)…just then the conversation is over…I think I will try the letters… I talked with him about counseling … he said he “would rather get papers drawn up” ( just said to hurt me-- he didn’t really mean it…defense move). He thinks no one else knows how to fix our issues…they just would pick apart the guy… I feel like a dog chasing his tail… He has agreed to do devotions with me… so if anyone has any suggestions on devotions meant for couples? I think that may be my only hope unless I demand more-- which is usually asking for more balloons flying around when dealing with my man… I love him… aghhhh!

Thanks everyone for the advise-- I appreciate it!
 
I didn’t mean “only hope” … I just meant It may be the only way to incorporate changes into our relationship… I have thought about all these posts… a lot of good advise I didn’t think about… I will work on changing my reaction to him is the biggest thing… I need to change how personal I take what he is saying to me & not let it affect my attitude toward him… I find that very difficult…
 
Dear Serap-- I think this might help because I can almost picture a balloon with his face on it flying around the room… & correct he does eventually stop…;)…just then the conversation is over…I think I will try the letters… I talked with him about counseling … he said he “would rather get papers drawn up” ( just said to hurt me-- he didn’t really mean it…defense move). He thinks no one else knows how to fix our issues…they just would pick apart the guy… I feel like a dog chasing his tail… He has agreed to do devotions with me… so if anyone has any suggestions on devotions meant for couples? I think that may be my only hope unless I demand more-- which is usually asking for more balloons flying around when dealing with my man… I love him… aghhhh!

Thanks everyone for the advise-- I appreciate it!
most men avoid couples counselling. they don’t like talking about their feelings a whole lot.
 
I am in need of advise… I am married for 13 years, have 4 children and am finding myself having problems frequently in my marriage . My husband is unable to admit that he does anything wrong and in the 13 years we have been married I am always the one to reconnect the relationship by basically just “getting over it” - he very infrequently-- maybe 3 times has ever said “Im sorry” – and basically I feel he was under pressure because we went to a priest to talk about our marriage issues. - & i admit I am not always the greatest wife either but I do try… I tend to have anger that just builds up inside me. My husband is a great provider, goes to church on a weekly basis (we are both cradle Catholics),- he is not a bad terrible person… - the problem is our communication among other things. I tend to when voices start to raise back off & come back at a later time when tempers cool off… his family yells at each other -calls names…& then with no apologies or resolution to the problem ever being made and then just “forget” about it…as he is so good at doing…he has no problem then just turning joyful & going on about his business. I have a hard time without apologies to just go forward and be happy about it…my mind just wants to think, think think about it until we talk it through. So what happens is I apologize for what I do - or for what I think could have maybe hurt his feelings and end up being the one to go hug him or write him a note whatever to bring the relationship back… but how can I be happy & forgive him over & over without any remorse or feelings coming back? I have gone to a Christ Renews His Parish retreat - which has helped me turn the anger down & talk to God & pray about it…now it just saddens me. I have great girlfriends praying for us… & that same blessing that has kept me in my marriage is a source of contention for him & I because he feels I am stepping “out” of our marriage… I feel controlled… sometimes I question why God would put me with this man… he is unhappy with me I am unhappy… I also need help with that-- how do I stop questioning if God wanted me with him or If it was just what happened because I didn’t pray much prior to the last 5 years… Any resources or prayers anyone has would be appreciated… I am going to try to get him to go to the retroville weekend with me if I can…I am almost afraid to bring it up…How do I keep myself joyful in this for my kids?.. …Thanks for any help…

J
Is he using internet pornography?
 
OP- not really advice but something that night make you feel better:

I know where your husband is coming from- my family sounds like his, and I am rather like him (though I’m a girl :p) and my brothers are even more so.

It might make you a bit happier to realize that that personality type- when they’re yelling, that isn’t anger. It might be temper, but it’s mostly just noise. Real anger, the kind you feel when someone wrongs you, the kind that stays with you- it isn’t even the same thing.

I don’t know how relevant this may be, but when your husband gets like that, he likely isn’t even upset at you; he’s quite likely just caught up in the heat of the moment. And furthermore, he probably has little idea of how you feel, because of this. I can count the number of times I was truly upset with someone on one hand, and as a result I have a little trouble empathizing with people who stay angry for a long time.

I don’t doubt that your husband truly loves you- I think he literally can’t imagine how you feel.

Just my :twocents:
 
most men avoid couples counselling. they don’t like talking about their feelings a whole lot.
That is because most couples counselors end up taking the woman’s side and making the guy feel like everything is his fault. Or at least that is what most guys think and hear from other guys so yeah that is why. Also, if a guy talks about his feelings no one listens to him. I just got done in several threads with guys telling me I need to “suck things up.” It is not as simple as you claim, trust me.
 
That is because most couples counselors end up taking the woman’s side and making the guy feel like everything is his fault. Or at least that is what most guys think and hear from other guys so yeah that is why. Also, if a guy talks about his feelings no one listens to him. I just got done in several threads with guys telling me I need to “suck things up.” It is not as simple as you claim, trust me.
You can’t generalize about most counselors taking the woman’s side unless you’ve been to most counselors and no one listening to a guy talking about his feelings is your opinion. I’ve always found women to be more interested in men’s feelings then men. “Sucking it up” gets easier with maturity. trust me.
 
You can’t generalize about most counselors taking the woman’s side unless you’ve been to most counselors and no one listening to a guy talking about his feelings is your opinion. I’ve always found women to be more interested in men’s feelings then men. “Sucking it up” gets easier with maturity. trust me.
Some guy never disappoints when I raise the issue of “sucking it up.” As one can see by exhibit shipwrkd that is the preferred male response to problems. Honestly man, what have you got to fear by letting it out? Your strength comes from God, not your bottled up emotions. 😉

Read #2 (counselorssoapbox.com/2012/10/27/why-men-fear-marriage-counseling/) and educate yourself a bit. Sometimes generalizations are generalizations for a reason. People don’t always just pull things out of mid air.
 
Some guy never disappoints when I raise the issue of “sucking it up.” As one can see by exhibit shipwrkd that is the preferred male response to problems. Honestly man, what have you got to fear by letting it out? Your strength comes from God, not your bottled up emotions. 😉

Read #2 (counselorssoapbox.com/2012/10/27/why-men-fear-marriage-counseling/) and educate yourself a bit. Sometimes generalizations are generalizations for a reason. People don’t always just pull things out of mid air.
A blog called CouselorsSoapBox.com is rather thin even if written by a counselor. Again, one man’s opinion and not something I would judge the majority of psychologist’s by. You know nothing of my emotions and how I handle them. Thanks for the charitable responds.
 
A blog called CouselorsSoapBox.com is rather thin even if written by a counselor. Again, one man’s opinion and not something I would judge the majority of psychologist’s by. You know nothing of my emotions and how I handle them. Thanks for the charitable responds.
I wasn’t speaking about you specifically when I said “your.” Though when you ask me to trust you I have to assume you are doing what you preach.

Trying to discredit a source when you don’t like what it says is highly suspect. Whether my claim is true or not MANY guys think it is and that is why they won’t go.
 
I wasn’t speaking about you specifically when I said “your.” Though when you ask me to trust you I have to assume you are doing what you preach.

Trying to discredit a source when you don’t like what it says is highly suspect. Whether my claim is true or not MANY guys think it is and that is why they won’t go.
You dance divinely with words. Let’s take a look at exactly what you said:
Some guy never disappoints when I raise the issue of “sucking it up.” As one can see by exhibit shipwrkd that is the preferred male response to problems. Honestly man, what have you got to fear by letting it out? Your strength comes from God, not your bottled up emotions.
This sounds pretty specific to me.

Calling a source thin is not discrediting it but rather then a blog, provide an accredited article by the Board of American Psychology or similar organization and your claim would hold water.

I believe I’ll disengage now…
 
Some guy never disappoints when I raise the issue of “sucking it up.” As one can see by exhibit shipwrkd that is the preferred male response to problems. Honestly man, what have you got to fear by letting it out? Your strength comes from God, not your bottled up emotions. 😉

Read #2 (counselorssoapbox.com/2012/10/27/why-men-fear-marriage-counseling/) and educate yourself a bit. Sometimes generalizations are generalizations for a reason. People don’t always just pull things out of mid air.
Its always about you. Stop with this getting personal when someone disagrees with you.
 
silentfactor80, would you *please *stop hijacking threads with your personal issues and starting irrelevant arguments? It doesn’t help the OP and it doesn’t make you look very good either. :dts:
 
silentfactor80, would you *please *stop hijacking threads with your personal issues and starting irrelevant arguments? It doesn’t help the OP and it doesn’t make you look very good either. :dts:
Actually I was giving the OP a different perspective about why men won’t go to counseling after one was given to her. Given she is having marriage problems and marriage counseling was suggested it is totally relevant. If what I say is bothering you then it would be good to look deep down and ask why. Also, I am not concerned how I look. Do you think Christ cared what people said about Him or what people thought about John the Baptist? Resoundingly, NO!
 
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