Disobeying Parents: Always Mortal?

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If for example your parent told you to take your shoes off when you are in a certain room of the house and you quickly pop into that room the fetch something with your shoes on in black and white you have disobeyed your parent. But is it a mortal sin? Bearing in mind the action wasn’t done out of malice or to annoy the parent.
 
Scrupulosity needs professional guidance from a trained priest or spiritual director. Please seek a regular confessor to help you properly form your conscience.
 
Antonio5 said:
If for example your parent told you to take your shoes off when you are in a certain room of the house and you quickly pop into that room the fetch something with your shoes on in black and white you have disobeyed your parent. But is it a mortal sin? Bearing in mind the action wasn’t done out of malice or to annoy the parent.
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Translation of the post above me: No. 😃
 
1ke said:
Scrupulosity needs professional guidance from a trained priest or spiritual director. Please seek a regular confessor to help you properly form your conscience.
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How about hang’ng back on the “scrupulosity” label and instant labeling of the good young adults who come here with valid questions.
 
Barbkw said:
How about hang’ng back on the “scrupulosity” label and instant labeling of the good young adults who come here with valid questions.
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How about realizing that there really are some stupid questions and ones that raise red flags about the mental status of the poster. The FIRST condition of a mortal sin is that it must be of a serious matter.
Walking on the carpet in sneakers is NOT a serious matter, stealing a nickel is NOT a serious matter, picking the cat up by back and not hind end is NOT A serious matter.

Second, it must be commited with full knowlege (the OP didn’t say wiether he rememebered before or after to take off his sneakers)

Third it must deliberate. The OP didn’t indicate he did this to annoy his parent or harrass them, only to grab something from the room. Ergo. It dosn’t seem deliberate.

If the op said, “My mom is an idiot and she told me not to go into the den with my dirty sneakers on the new white carpet and I think she dosn’t know anything so I left them on while I run in circles just to show her who’s boss” Then it might be mortal if the intent was to destroy the new carpet. Still would have to pass the serious matter test. A ruined carpet is still only semi-serious.
 
purplesunshine said:
How about realizing that there really are some stupid questions and ones that raise red flags about the mental status of the poster. The FIRST condition of a mortal sin is that it must be of a serious matter.
Walking on the carpet in sneakers is NOT a serious matter, stealing a nickel is NOT a serious matter, picking the cat up by back and not hind end is NOT A serious matter.
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What’s with the hostility? The poster’s question isn’t “stupid”.

Just in need of a bit of guidance (which you did offer concerning the three requirements concerning serious matter).
 
What’s with the iron pipe smack down on the spirituality of these holy young people who come here for adult guidance?

The OP sounds to me like a Catholic who honors Reconciliation and the Commandments.

My advice to the original poster would be for him/her to have a talk with their parent about their “no shoe” rule in the house and if there are allowances for when it doesn’t apply. Explain what happened with the cat and ask your parent for guidance in these gray areas.

Rely on your parent to help you through these “gray” areas in life.

As you get older and with honest communication with your parents, they will help you to understand the moral differences between the “letter of the law” and the “spirit of the law”.
 
purplesunshine said:
How about realizing that there really are some stupid questions and ones that raise red flags about the mental status of the poster. The FIRST condition of a mortal sin is that it must be of a serious matter.
Walking on the carpet in sneakers is NOT a serious matter, stealing a nickel is NOT a serious matter, picking the cat up by back and not hind end is NOT A serious matter.

Second, it must be commited with full knowlege (the OP didn’t say wiether he rememebered before or after to take off his sneakers)

Third it must deliberate. The OP didn’t indicate he did this to annoy his parent or harrass them, only to grab something from the room. Ergo. It dosn’t seem deliberate.

If the op said, “My mom is an idiot and she told me not to go into the den with my dirty sneakers on the new white carpet and I think she dosn’t know anything so I left them on while I run in circles just to show her who’s boss” Then it might be mortal if the intent was to destroy the new carpet. Still would have to pass the serious matter test. A ruined carpet is still only semi-serious.
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I think you missed the OP’s actual concern.

It wasn’t concern for the carpet.

It was whether or not he/she had openly disobeyed his/her parents.
 
Barbkw said:
I think you missed the OP’s actual concern.

It wasn’t concern for the carpet.

It was whether or not he/she had openly disobeyed his/her parents.
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Yes full knowledge is part of what makes a mortal sin. The sin must be grave though in order to be considered a mortal sin and that is what the poster was replying to. I agree with you that it is not a stupid question to ask “what is a mortal sin” because that is essentially what the OP was really asking from what I can see.
 
Barbkw said:
How about hang’ng back on the “scrupulosity” label and instant labeling of the good young adults who come here with valid questions.
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You clearly have not read the totality of the OP’s posts.
 
Barbkw said:
1ke,

You’ve informed other posters that they are suffering from scrupulousity in 115 threads.
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There are a lot of scrupulous people attracted to these boards. The OP indicated his scrupulosity in other threads.

If you do not like what I say, don’t read my posts. I am requesting you stop posting to me on this topic as it serves no purpose.
 
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