Dispaches - abortion

[Linnyo]

I am currently watching dispaches on abortion. They are showing the process and debating the age that it should be allowed up to. They are debating whether the baby can feel pain. It is really highlighting how a feotus is a living baby. I am watching it with my 12 year old and whilst it is horrible, it is highlighting and explaning why abortion is wrong at up to 24 weeks. Is anybody else watching it?

 

[Linnyo]

Here is the blurb. I think you can go to channel 4 and order the catch up episode if you miss it. Just google channel 4 dispatches.

Abortion: What We Need To Know​

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As the 40th anniversary of abortion law nears and the Select Committee on Science and Technology meets to hear evidence investigating scientific developments relating to abortion, Dispatches reporter Deborah Davies looks at the latest scientific research into foetal pain and pre-term infant viability.

Featuring a new survey into doctors’ opinions on abortion, Dispatches reveals why many doctors want the law changed and lifts the lid on the debate that is happening in private within the medical profession.

Dispatches investigates the latest medical advancements that are impacting on pre term infant survival, including for those born at less than the current legal limit for abortion of 24 weeks gestation.

One of the hotly debated areas of abortion is foetal pain. At what point does foetal movement stop being a reflex and start being what could be a reaction to pain? Leading experts in both the fields of foetal development and nervous systems debate the current timescales.

Scientific developments relating to the Abortion Act 1967: List of written evidence

If you want to discuss the issues raised in this Dispatches with the programme makers, go to the Forum immediately after the programme.

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[catharina]

FYI and for your son too:

I’ve been a primary caregiver of a 24wk born-alive premie. Now I’m still working with her for two afternoons a week but for most of her first two years I worked with her 10+ hours/day, five days/week. She’ll be three yrs old in January. Her twin sister died at five weeks after their birth and that twin had been declared the healthier baby at birth. Nevertheless, “my” little survivor is well and happy. She is thriving and shows no deficits. I’m horrifed to imagine anyone inflicting pain on her, then or now. Do neonates feel pain? Why wouldn’t they? Newborns do - even at 24 weeks.

 

[Linnyo]

I think it is awful that they would even have to debate what age babies would feel their lives being taken away from them. The idea of an abortion at 24 weeks being performed on one floor of a hospital and on another floor they could be providing care and trying to save the life of a baby born at 23 weeks. It is soo wrong. Especially when we consider the amount of people so desperate to have a baby.

 

[briang72]

What really sickens me is that they are using pain as a measurement of the acceptiblity of abortion.

If I kill a human being in a way that causes no pain, 24 weeks or 24 years old, I have still violated the 5th Commandment.

When will we start thinking outside the human realm of feelings? Why is it acceptible if it feels okay, or it causes no pain?

Definition of pain from Merriam Webster:

1: punishment

2 a: usu. localized physical suffering associated with bodily disorder (as a disease or an injury); also : a basic bodily sensation induced by a noxious stimulus, received by naked nerve endings, characterized by physical discomfort (as pricking, throbbing, or aching), and typically leading to evasive action

b: acute mental or emotional distress or suffering : grief

I guarantee that ALL abortions cause pain, not just to the baby, but also to the mother, to the father, and to God. Really, it causes pain to all humanity.