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The apologetic thread just dealt with something my wife and I were discussing earlier this week. What can be done with ashes after cremation?

We have a particular question. My wife’s mother died several years ago. At the time my wife was given some of the ashes in an urn which she has kept since then. Given we have been enlightened about what should happen with ashes we are trying to figure out what the Church would suggest she do with these.
 
The Church prefers burial to cremation, but does allow cremation. However, the ashes MUST be buried, not scattered, because this denies the resurrection and the dignity of the human. You will need to bury the ashes. God bless.
 
The Church prefers burial to cremation, but does allow cremation. However, the ashes MUST be buried, not scattered, because this denies the resurrection and the dignity of the human. You will need to bury the ashes. God bless.
Please read my original post again. I appreciate your offering an answer, but it didn’t address my question at all.
 
The apologetic thread just dealt with something my wife and I were discussing earlier this week. What can be done with ashes after cremation?

We have a particular question. My wife’s mother died several years ago. At the time my wife was given some of the ashes in an urn which she has kept since then. Given we have been enlightened about what should happen with ashes we are trying to figure out what the Church would suggest she do with these.
Am I reading correctly that she only has a portion of her mother’s ashes? If that’s the case I think she needs to discuss this with your priest, and ultimately the family. I had my mother’s ashes at home for several years. When she died, I had only recently returned to the Church. When I found out the requirements, I had the urn interred in my father’s grave. But I’m unclear on your situation and think you should talk to a priest.
 
Please read my original post again. I appreciate your offering an answer, but it didn’t address my question at all.
But it did:
The Church prefers burial to cremation, but does allow cremation. However, the ashes MUST be buried, not scattered, because this denies the resurrection and the dignity of the human. You will need to bury the ashes. God bless.
 
Let me be clearer, Where do I bury the ashes? Her mother’s gravestone is 700 miles from where we live. I obviously don’t want to bury them in a random hole in the ground. Looking for guidance on the next step on the road to getting the ashes properly taken care of. Thank you.
 
Am I reading correctly that she only has a portion of her mother’s ashes? If that’s the case I think she needs to discuss this with your priest, and ultimately the family. I had my mother’s ashes at home for several years. When she died, I had only recently returned to the Church. When I found out the requirements, I had the urn interred in my father’s grave. But I’m unclear on your situation and think you should talk to a priest.
When her mother died in 2007 some of her ashes were scattered into a river and some were divided up for relatives to take home. My wife ended up with a portion of the ashes.

Obviously we are Catholic, but she was not (my wife is a convert). So you’re suggesting we talk to our current priest and see what he has to say? I guess that’s always a good option, but half the threads on this forum could be shut down by people saying “don’t discuss it, just go to your priest” so I’m looking for guidance here as well.
 
Given we have been enlightened about what should happen with ashes we are trying to figure out what the Church would suggest she do with these.
The answer is that cremains should be buried or interred in a blessed place, not kept at home.

“Talk to your pastor” is always good advice.
 
The answer is that cremains should be buried or interred in a blessed place, not kept at home.

“Talk to your pastor” is always good advice.
Yes, see your pastor about this as soon as you can.
Peace.
 
When her mother died in 2007 some of her ashes were scattered into a river and some were divided up for relatives to take home. My wife ended up with a portion of the ashes.

Obviously we are Catholic, but she was not (my wife is a convert). So you’re suggesting we talk to our current priest and see what he has to say? I guess that’s always a good option, but half the threads on this forum could be shut down by people saying “don’t discuss it, just go to your priest” so I’m looking for guidance here as well.
The ideal resolution would be to gather the ashes back together and have them buried or placed in a columbarium.

Obviously, that “ideal” solution does not seem practical in your case. That’s why you should talk to your priest. He can guide you and your wife as to what your responsibility is in this case. There is no definitive Church teaching that covers this particular combination of circumstances.
 
When her mother died in 2007 some of her ashes were scattered into a river and some were divided up for relatives to take home. My wife ended up with a portion of the ashes.

Obviously we are Catholic, but she was not (my wife is a convert). So you’re suggesting we talk to our current priest and see what he has to say? I guess that’s always a good option, but half the threads on this forum could be shut down by people saying “don’t discuss it, just go to your priest” so I’m looking for guidance here as well.
The reason everyone is saying to talk to your priest is because this is a case where the local priest is going to be in the best position to give you concrete answers to your question. Your pastor would know where in your area the remains could be buried.

You can’t just bury her in the backyard. It needs to be in a cemetery. Not only is it likely illegal to bury human remains in your backyard, it also would not ensure that there would be a permanent place of repose. Imagine 50 or 100 years down the road, someone owns your home who has no idea and decides to put an in-ground pool in your backyard. Cemeteries are always going to be a cemetery. So you don’t have to worry about things like that.
 
When her mother died in 2007 some of her ashes were scattered into a river and some were divided up for relatives to take home. My wife ended up with a portion of the ashes.

Obviously we are Catholic, but she was not (my wife is a convert).

So you’re suggesting we talk to our current priest and see what he has to say? I guess that’s always a good option, but half the threads on this forum could be shut down by people saying “don’t discuss it, just go to your priest” so I’m looking for guidance here as well.
I note that you are a new member.

I have been participating in this forum, to varying results, for about a year and a half.

I am a priest who was a parish priest, a theology professor, and held various special assignments over the decades. I am retired now on account of my age and my growing health issues.

While I can understand that you would look to a place entitled “Catholic Answers” for guidance, in my experience many of those who post here have no background in theology or canon law…aside from what they may have picked up – and misunderstood – in their own personal reading. Thus the guidance one can receive may be of dubious value; it may even, frankly, be completely wrong.

On the other hand, your parish priest should be thoroughly conversant with the mind of the Church as well as know, practically, what provisions the diocese may have made to deal with situations like yours. There could be a provision already in place that would be known to him but unknown to anyone here.

This is going to be a growing problem in years ahead for dioceses as they confront the need to deal with this issue, as generations pass and cremains that were not properly attended to come to the surface in people’s homes, basements and so forth.

Some of us who are priests have seen this mounting crisis coming for a number of years now, based on observed behaviour. Dioceses will eventually need to come up with solutions in keeping with their possibilities and resources.
 
Maybe referring people back to their local parish priest for advice is the best option if there is no black or white, right or wrong answer to the question.

Perhaps better advice would be to pray directly to God and His Holy Spirit will guide you.
It’s possible there is no universal answer to such individual and personal situations.

…for dust you are and unto dust you will return.
 
When I die; I just have two requests:

One: Scatter my remains all around Disney World:

Two:
I don’t want to be cremated !!

😃
 
I note that you are a new member.

I have been participating in this forum, to varying results, for about a year and a half.

I am a priest who was a parish priest, a theology professor, and held various special assignments over the decades. I am retired now on account of my age and my growing health issues.

While I can understand that you would look to a place entitled “Catholic Answers” for guidance, in my experience many of those who post here have no background in theology or canon law…aside from what they may have picked up – and misunderstood – in their own personal reading. Thus the guidance one can receive may be of dubious value; it may even, frankly, be completely wrong.

On the other hand, your parish priest should be thoroughly conversant with the mind of the Church as well as know, practically, what provisions the diocese may have made to deal with situations like yours. There could be a provision already in place that would be known to him but unknown to anyone here.

This is going to be a growing problem in years ahead for dioceses as they confront the need to deal with this issue, as generations pass and cremains that were not properly attended to come to the surface in people’s homes, basements and so forth.

Some of us who are priests have seen this mounting crisis coming for a number of years now, based on observed behaviour. Dioceses will eventually need to come up with solutions in keeping with their possibilities and resources.
Maybe off the OP a bit but I am the only Catholic in my immediate family, I’m praying to change that situation but no success yet 🙂 I have chosen to be cremated from a financial standpoint. Caskets, burial vaults, and plots along with embalming can be expensive. I don’t have a lot of money, but I have enough. I just don’t want to burden my children with the expense of all that. There is a monastery near my town and I can purchase a spot for my cremains to be interred. My understanding is the recent directive states burial is the preferred option, but cremation is allowed under certain circumstances. Do you know what those circumstances are?
 
Maybe off the OP a bit but I am the only Catholic in my immediate family, I’m praying to change that situation but no success yet 🙂 I have chosen to be cremated from a financial standpoint. Caskets, burial vaults, and plots along with embalming can be expensive. I don’t have a lot of money, but I have enough. I just don’t want to burden my children with the expense of all that. There is a monastery near my town and I can purchase a spot for my cremains to be interred. My understanding is the recent directive states burial is the preferred option, but cremation is allowed under certain circumstances. Do you know what those circumstances are?
The easiest way to answer your question and address your concerns is to quote the instruction directly; what you raise is addressed in paragraphs 4 and 5.

I would note that since you have chosen cremation, then cremation would not be occurring against your wish, which is one criteria expressed in paragraph 4…that a person ought not be cremated when their wish was the contrary
*4. In circumstances when cremation is chosen because of sanitary, economic or social considerations, this choice must never violate the explicitly-stated or the reasonably inferable wishes of the deceased faithful. The Church raises no doctrinal objections to this practice, since cremation of the deceased’s body does not affect his or her soul, nor does it prevent God, in his omnipotence, from raising up the deceased body to new life. Thus cremation, in and of itself, objectively negates neither the Christian doctrine of the soul’s immortality nor that of the resurrection of the body.

The Church continues to prefer the practice of burying the bodies of the deceased, because this shows a greater esteem towards the deceased. Nevertheless, cremation is not prohibited, “unless it was chosen for reasons contrary to Christian doctrine”.

In the absence of motives contrary to Christian doctrine, the Church, after the celebration of the funeral rite, accompanies the choice of cremation, providing the relevant liturgical and pastoral directives, and taking particular care to avoid every form of scandal or the appearance of religious indifferentism.
  1. When, for legitimate motives, cremation of the body has been chosen, the ashes of the faithful must be laid to rest in a sacred place, that is, in a cemetery or, in certain cases, in a church or an area, which has been set aside for this purpose, and so dedicated by the competent ecclesial authority.
From the earliest times, Christians have desired that the faithful departed become the objects of the Christian community’s prayers and remembrance. Their tombs have become places of prayer, remembrance and reflection. The faithful departed remain part of the Church who believes “in the communion of all the faithful of Christ, those who are pilgrims on earth, the dead who are being purified, and the blessed in heaven, all together forming one Church."

The reservation of the ashes of the departed in a sacred place ensures that they are not excluded from the prayers and remembrance of their family or the Christian community. It prevents the faithful departed from being forgotten, or their remains from being shown a lack of respect, which eventuality is possible, most especially once the immediately subsequent generation has too passed away. Also it prevents any unfitting or superstitious practices.*
vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20160815_ad-resurgendum-cum-christo_en.html

Thus, your decision would meet the criteria in terms of choosing cremation and in terms of the disposition of your remains, by confiding them to the monastery for interment.
 
Thank you Father. I just want to make sure I’m doing it in the way the Church teaches.
 
Thank you Father. I just want to make sure I’m doing it in the way the Church teaches.
You are most welcome. When in doubt, it is always best to check and double check. Especially a decision as definitive as something like this.

What a blessing that the monastery gives you the option of being interred there. I remember when that would have been counted an extraordinary privilege for a lay person.
 
A colleague of mine was given the ashes from one of our homeless clients who passed on, several years ago.

Didn’t know what to do with them, I suggested she bury them at her new home in the country which she had just bought.

Would a local monastery been willing to accept them?
 
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