Disrespect toward Islam on this Forum

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Sixtus said:
We have an absolute duty to respect and love both those who love us and those who persecute us.

We also are commanded by our Master to love Jn 15:17,

We are commanded to forgive Mk 11:25, Mt 7:1-2

We are also assured that despite elements who would destroy us [and that is not only the fringe elements within Islam but also the secular world], we will not be overcome. Our Master promises to be with us always even to the end of time. Mt 28:20 🙂
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Well put.
 
Sajona,

Give me proof your religion is right. Mine was there first. Christian people have been dying for their beliefs right up to today, where your brothers tortured a man for “blashpemy” with no evidence whatsoever. Why don’t you study up on the Christian religion? That is, if you think yours could hold up against it, which it could not. A woman (maybe more) was raped in retaliation for reading the Bible. What courage! These people edify me in my faith which is the true faith.

In the old days, incorrigible criminals and dangerous sociopaths were executed as dangers to society. I would put much of the
Middle East in that category. This can only be tolerated for so long before something drastic must be done. It may be that our society is so sick that it will not have the willpower or ability to protect itself. My fear is that we are at that level.

Yet, my sons are chomping at the bit to do their part in protecting their family, and community. 9/11 affected them very, very deeply.While our current lack of leadership is faltering, many of the younger generation are much more grounded than the last two.

My children have been consecrated to the Lord. I have no fears whatsoever on our account. I do feel sorry for the Christians over in the Middle East. Sometimes I get angry at God for allowing this, but I know in my heart He is chastising us by allowing the enemies of Christ gain the upper hand. Many parallels in the OT on this.

I used to respect the Muslim religion. Those days are long gone for me.
 
Sajona said:
Where is the proof your religion is right? Umm you cant prove it… :rolleyes:
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That’s funny coming from a Muslim, considering that the whole proof for the validity of Islam is “Muhammad said so”!

Vickie
 
Geocacher said:
Well put./QUOTE}

I concede that we are supposed to ‘respect’ Islam. However, it’s very difficult to reconcile that with my human reaction, which is to recoil with fear when I hear Muslims speak about how they are not being respected. Truly, their prophet tells them to lie…how are we supposed to know what we are respecting? The reports I have seen and the research I have done indicate that the “Danger, WIll RObinson” flag is going up…makes it very difficult to do anything other than pray for their conversion. KWIM?

(That’s an honest question, not meant to ignite the inevitable fire). I didn’t mean to offend anyone, but I am really struggling with this issue.
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It’s very difficult to respect Islam when one stops to think that those who have criticized Islam in this thread would almost certainly be killed if they said the same things out loud in an Islamic country. Say what you want about how the average Muslim is this or that. But at some point you have to accept, however reluctantly, that the practices prevalent in a society reflect the views of those in that society. Those countries under Islamic rule just don’t respect other religions, period, and,whether subtly or overtly, suppress them all over time. It is absurd to maintain that this does not reflect the desire of the Islamic populace generally.
 
Dear Muslim with concerns,

Please either hit the alert button if you see a violation or cite the posts or thread where this event took place.

Thank you for helping us to respond to your thread in an informed manner rather than responding to your subjective allegations.
 
Hellisreal said:
Dear Muslim with concerns,

Please either hit the alert button if you see a violation or cite the posts or thread where this event took place.

Thank you for helping us to respond to your thread in an informed manner rather than responding to your subjective allegations.
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Pretty much every other post in this thread has served to vividly illustrate the OP’s point. So far I’ve learned that Muslims are, among other things, devil worshippers and terrorists and I’ve learned that the OP’s point is moot because Islam is undeserving of respect.

These “allegations” seemed a lot more “subjective” before people started responding to this thread.
 
faelpsanfeel said:
Pretty much every other post in this thread has served to vividly illustrate the OP’s point. So far I’ve learned that Muslims are, among other things, devil worshippers and terrorists and I’ve learned that the OP’s point is moot because Islam is undeserving of respect.

These “allegations” seemed a lot more “subjective” before people started responding to this thread.
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LOL.

I do not read the posts as to become biased in my answer.

This particular thread was one that was IMHO meant to incite a riot.

I see many tactics like this with Muslims and I for one will not fall for the trick.
 
Islam deserves no respect, because it is false. However, people who practice Islam do deserve to be treated with respect and dignity, regardless of how we feel about their religion. I don’t really check in the areas where Muslims would probably post, but I would hope that any Muslim who does post is respected and given dignity as a person.
 
People no matter what religion have to earn respect. I just don’t give respect away because someone say I have to respect them.

My grandfather once told me, “Respect is earned not deserved.”
He told me that when I was 12 years old and I live by it.

I know all Islam is not bad. But the good is not standing up against the bad. If the good Islam wants to be respected then they have to take a stronger stance against the bad Islam, and I just don’t see that happening.
 
onmywayagain said:
People no matter what religion have to earn respect. I just don’t give respect away because someone say I have to respect them.
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They have earned your respect because they are created by God. Jesus respected the even the worst of sinners. The only people he had harsh words towards most of the time were the people that supposedly knew the truth-the Jews. Even then, he showed a certain respect towards them. As I said earlier, false religion deserves no respect, but every person deserves respect and dignity because they were created by the One True God.
 
Kevin42 said:
They have earned your respect because they are created by God. Jesus respected the even the worst of sinners. The only people he had harsh words towards most of the time were the people that supposedly knew the truth-the Jews. Even then, he showed a certain respect towards them. As I said earlier, false religion deserves no respect, but every person deserves respect and dignity because they were created by the One True God.
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Okay I understand Creation. But doesn’t it say in scripture that If you deny Him (Jesus) then you deny the One (God the Father) who sent Him. If Isalm denies Christ then they deny the Father. So now what? Do I still have to respect them, since they deny the God who created them. My answer would be no.
 
Jayda said:
hola heathernoel,

…the catechism tells us what there is to respect about islam at 840… i share your frustration when they open polemical threads about islam intended for proselytism. but we should not interpret our online experiences into real life and turn our backs on the direction of cooperation the catechism lays down. they follow a false prophet, but even despite this the catechism tells us there are things about muslims worth respecting.

the simpler solution is to think of this as a forum problem, not a religious problem… tighter attention to enforcing the proselytism and cut-paste polemical restrictions would mean less headaches for everybody 🙂

Dominus Vobiscum
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Yes, just as there are things about other, pagan religions worth respecting.
But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Mohamedans, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind. Nor is God far distant from those who in shadows and images seek the unknown God, for it is He who gives to all men life and breath and all things,(127) and as Saviour wills that all men be saved.(128) Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church,
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But in no way can this be seen as saying that everyone is saved.

Also, everyone in these groups who are saved are saved by Christ as their unseen savior and his grace.
 
JLSacred said:
Unfortunately, with Islamists, disagreement is considered disrespectful. Hardline Muslim countries cannot even tolerate a Bible within their borders, that’s how insecure they are. :rolleyes:

I, for one, get tired of Muslims in the West expecting kidglove treatment. I agree with our Holy Father that it’s time for repricosity!
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I agree, and appreciate finally seeing a politically incorrect view.

I’ll go further and say that Islam, IMO, isn’t just a religion. It is also a political and military force. A force more dangerous to the Christian West than Communist Russia or Nazi Germany at their worst.

So whatever “respect” is due to Islam* as a religion, IMO it does not apply to Islam as a political/military force out to conquer the West in general or the USA in particular.

Since I’m on a roll, IMO, no foreign born Muslim should be allowed into the West in general or the USA in particular without taking a loyalty oath to the Constitution/Country. If they cannot, they should be deported. The Christian West and USA should not be destroyed by the Trojan Horse of immigration.

And I expect to receive respect for my view.
  • Respect for religion includes Hindus and assorted pagans, not just Islam.
 
onmywayagain said:
Do I still have to respect them, since they deny the God who created them. My answer would be no.
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Mine would be yes. I don’t know how you expect to gain converts from Islam, or how you plan on bring Islamic people to Christ, if you don’t respect Muslims. More importantly, Jesus treated all humans with dignity and a certain respect. NONE of us are worthy of receiving anything from Him, much less a dignified status. We also know we are called to imitate Christ in our lives. I’d hope this would be considered when we in turn decide who is worthy of dignity and respect. I don’t want to get into an argument, but that’s just my thoughts. Peace:) .

(I reiterate that the religion should NOT be respected. Merely that Muslims as people should be.)
 
I certainly love Muslims. Respect would depend on your definition. I have a feeling you’re equating respect with acceptance. I don’t accept their religion, I think it’s nothing but lies. But I respect and love them as children of God, which makes it all the more painful to see them led so far astray.
 
Kevin42 said:
Mine would be yes. I don’t know how you expect to gain converts from Islam, or how you plan on bring Islamic people to Christ, if you don’t respect Muslims. More importantly, Jesus treated all humans with dignity and a certain respect. NONE of us are worthy of receiving anything from Him, much less a dignified status. We also know we are called to imitate Christ in our lives. I’d hope this would be considered when we in turn decide who is worthy of dignity and respect. I don’t want to get into an argument, but that’s just my thoughts. Peace:) .

(I reiterate that the religion should NOT be respected. Merely that Muslims as people should be.)
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Like I said in my other post, there are good muslims. I never said that I did not love them. It is the religion that I don’t respect and if you are part of that religion, guess what I won’t respect them or their religion. The funny thing is. People say we (Christian and Muslims) Pray to the same God. Guess what people we don’t. I will have conversations with Muslims if they want to learn about the Catholic church. I would not turn away from spreading the Gospel. But, why would I respect a religion that killed nuns when the Pope said something about Islam in a speech. I did not hear the good Muslims condeming the bad Muslims when that happened. Love them yes, respect them maybe, but don’t hold your breath, Pray for them of course.

Let me put it to you this way. I love my younger brother, but he did somethings to me which I have forgiven him for but do I respect him. Sad to tell you but I don’t.
 
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