Well said! Don’t forget the massive Tax cuts, and new Subsidizing by Public of our Biggest, most Profitable corporations. That is called Globalization: enrich the Richest at Public expense. Tax Money subsidizing Big Money, instead the Needed parts of Our economy, people, research, Infrastructure maintenance, development. Even our Bridges are collapsing.
I believe your statement was due to your inexperience in life. I feel sure you have never been in a situation where you had nothing to eat or were homeless through no fault of your own. I have known many in my lifetime who through no fault of their own became homeless. We should always have government agencies to help.
Either back up your statements or don’t make them.
There’s no need to try to paint my personal life in such a negative light. You make me sound like a loser. I enjoy video games when I’m not working on calculus III, digital design, teaching my brothers about ancient governments, or helping out with the RCIA class.
Before you declare my posts to be “outlandish, paraphrased, libertarian, statements”, It might be wise to consider that I’m describing conservative values which roughly half of Americans hold to some extent.
Go on, use your time more effectively elsewhere.
I havebeen in dire straights where I had no money for food. I also have slept in my car on more than one occasion. But I was fortunate in one respect that those around me never said I should just depend on the government, or things were beyond my control. I was told that finding a job was a full time job and I was shamed into spending every waking moment looking for work. When I found work that I couldn’t live on I kept on working and looking for a better job at the same time. Potential employers saw that I had the work ethic they desired in an employee and I managed to never have to get on unemployment, let alone welfare.
Sounds nice. I may have been there to.I havebeen in dire straights where I had no money for food. I also have slept in my car on more than one occasion. But I was fortunate in one respect that those around me never said I should just depend on the government, or things were beyond my control. I was told that finding a job was a full time job and I was shamed into spending every waking moment looking for work. When I found work that I couldn’t live on I kept on working and looking for a better job at the same time. Potential employers saw that I had the work ethic they desired in an employee and I managed to never have to get on unemployment, let alone welfare.
What I see in so many underemployed is a sense of defeatism. To many feel they are victims and are unwilling to nurture that spark of hope in their lives. Instead they put in a minimal amount of time at their job and then enjoy their time off. Now some are perfectly happy with that life. But those who feel they aren’t making enough to get by need a good kick in the pants.
Not to put any of the regulars here in shock but here is a government program we do need.
Get volunteer mentors for those on extended assistance (Not a few months between jobs.) Like a big brother/ parole officer / Case worker program. (no cost to tax payers) The mentor can check in on the person in dire straights, give them job searching advice, help them prepare for interviews, give them honnest feed back with out fear of discrimination, and also let the welfare offices know if the person is willing to work.
Employers are so paranoid about lawsuits they won’t tell an employee why they were not hired, friends and family may be in the same situation or may be unwilling to be confrontational. A third party mentor who can be supportive yet brutally honnest if required may be what some of these people need.
That is the defeatest attitude I am talking about. If you go to an employer with that attitude, it will be hard to get a job. If on the other hand you show innitiative and a willingness to work hard, someone will find you a job.
Not that it means anything anymore, but the $250,000 was just something that Obama pulled out of the air. Unlikely he will riase taxes until 2011, unless the economy turns. If he does, the way the rates are structured now, it would hit anyone on the 25% bracket, which, might be as low as $125,000 depending on the sources of income.Regret to inform you that christcnection1 is 100% Correct, philosophically and morally, and is with Church thinking:thumbsup:
You are in fact wrong, in Many ways, Appleby, especially in mindset and attitude: (1) one does not go around “Name-calling” to avoid answering the issues at hand. Namely your “guilt by association” is the Signature of not being able to address the issues at hand, by Name-calling: "people who want to extort money (from the rich); "grandly decide for us…how much undepanties…food we need…, entertainment we NEED…,…And convince themselves that the rest of OUR money belongs to their friends, cronies and aparatchiks…; and politicians like the Abomination demand we peons fork over our money…
Appleby, the Facts of Life reality acceptable to you? Have you heard What Caused the total collapse of our, then the World financial structure? 1920’s hoover era, 1980’s Reagan era, 200’0’s W Bush era Deregulation of Financial. Former economics professor **** Armey (No military experience by “choice”) was involved in the last 2 deregulations, not having learned any lessons from the 10/87 Grave collapse, S & L collapse.
Haven’t heard the evil socialist crony Obama will Only increase Taxes some to the over $250,000 crowd of peons ?
Of you are in the under $250,000 crowd, Appleby, you might think of following our Lord’s teachings, and give a few coins to “Street Beggars”. Remember what God told someone in your shoes, who Said he followed all the requirements to be saved? “Begone from me!” ‘But when did I not follow your (requirements)’? ‘Anytime you gave food, water, clothing to these, the least of My brethren, you gave to Me’.
Do you support the Transfer of the Nations Federal income to the wealthiest 5% of Corporations to Big Oil, Big Drugs? Why Federal Subsidy, Big tax cuts, in view of USA now technically bankrupt (May 08 GAO report), to the world record Biggest Profits corporations?
Realize that our grandchildren, and future Generations of the USA can never repay the MultiTrillion National Debt that selling all worth in the USA, Including your watch and the Capitol Building can’t repay?
Don’t believe the U S Government should pay its bills? Or do you support us subsidizing Red China and Richest with borrowed interest payments?
Haven’t heard that 'Obamanation" is Trying, impossible now, to return us to the major federal and corporation surpluses of the 1990’s? Or do you support our foreign Creditors foreclosing on our Nation? We can’t pay basic bills anymore. :tsktsk:
I am not so sure the “Wealth” has disapeared. I believe that investers are aware of how they will be treated under an Obama administration and have moved their wealth to safer areas. You may notice the big plunge happened around the time Obama surged ahead in the poles. I think investers are wondering if Obama will be another Carter or another Clinton. With the exception of a few social issues (ok several social issues) Clinton policies were nearly as conservative as Bush one and two. If Obama proves his presidency will be as benign as Clinton’s was we should see the stock market come back and all of this preemptive belt tightening will start to relax and the ecconomy will recover. If on the otherhand Obama digs in and pushes his leftist agenda that he ran on, expect to see things getting worse.
Well, if you can eat that paper, you’ve proved me wrong. And that paper is going to corporations that don’t know how to circulate it properly.I’ve never in my life heard anyone using ‘fiat wealth’ for food stamps, and survival programs. And I’ve got age superiority on you. How do you get “Wealth” out of survival programs?And the Amounts Nationally are smaller than the actual ‘fiat wealth’ being transferred to Biggest profits Businesses, Biggest Wealth Individuals since 2001. The quick $700 Billion is going to Bigest Corporations, and routine CEO bonuses, corporate Dividends. Isn’t that vast Public Wealth, Our tax dollars, being transferred to the Wealthiest, Who Caused the Crash?
You should know better than that. The Federal Reserve instructs the Treasury to print as much money as it sees fit. Taxes don’t cover all of it. That’s why we have a climbing deficit, which is becoming more and more financed by foreign governments. If they don’t finance us, the interest rates in this country skyrocket, which is great for savers, not so great for those in debt.
The British systemagainst which we rebelled was a disguised oligarchy, technically the king-in Parliament. The English Revolution of 1689 ended a long struggle between Parliament --eg. the people who owned England–with king looking to establish an absolute monarchy like that of France–actually a monarchy who ruled without the “advise” of nobles and gentry.
Not completely, but I grew up like you hearing the stories as my mother was the baby of eleven and her father died suddenly a few years before the depression. They literally almost starved to death. They were farmers in a rural area and there were no programs to help. I don’t think my grandmother was a very strong woman, the older sons had to do the best they could.:
Does that make up for my inexperience, janw?
I don’t think so. They print it based on the statistics of money being destroyed both by the fed and the common wealth. The gov constantly takes money in and destroys the notes that are warned out. Granted there is room for error, but it is very small. They don’t just print it to print it.
I’m with you here.
I agree with you here as well, I just disagree about the way to fix it.
Yes, I know a few poor families in our homeschooling support group (not starving poor, but poor nonetheless). They are very strong people and wouldn’t accept a handout. They are also some of the best people that I know.
Thank you, my friend.As for you, this world would be a much better place if we had more like you as not many your age are interested in serious matters or the will of God these days. I’m sure your parents are very proud of you. Wishing you the best in life.
Don’t know if anyone’s addressed this… I’ve read the two Fair Tax books and I really like what I’ve read. This idea’s time has come. I think enough people are fed up with our current tax system.There are a few things about the FairTax system that I don’t know enough about. The “prebate” thing for instance.
Thanks for explaining that.
And if there weren’t a minimum wage at the time, you would have been getting far less, and wouldn’t have had the energy or time to look for a better job.
This is good advice for anyone who wants to better themselves. But why should someone doing anything full time (40 hours +) not be able to afford health insurance, at least for themselves, enough to eat, and rent on a 1 bedroom flat?
“Investors” is a category, and while as a group I am sure they have “moved” their wealth to safe harbour, but many, many individuals have lost personal wealth, at least as measured in assets, as the prices of houses in California and Flordia have deflated. Better argue that it was paper wealth, but as people flipping houses were abloe to turn this into income, that source of income has diisappeared. Ditto stocks in financial institutions.
So maybe we should talk about what it means to be a good steward?
You didn’t mention the rate of this sales tax. Do you know what it would be? What do your books say? All the rates I have seen are very high and thats why the idea has never gotten much traction–is my understanding.
