Divided They Stand

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August 25, 2005
Divided They Stand
By DAVID BROOKS
President Bush doesn’t lack for critics when it comes to his Iraq policies, but the smartest and most devastating of these is Peter W. Galbraith, a former United States ambassador to Croatia.

Yesterday, after reading gloomy press accounts about the proposed Iraqi constitution, I thought it might be interesting to hear what Galbraith himself had to say. I finally tracked him down in Baghdad (at God knows what hour there) and found that far from lambasting Bush, Galbraith was more complimentary about what the administration has just achieved than anybody else I spoke to all day.

“The Bush administration finally did something right in brokering this constitution,” Galbraith exclaimed, then added: “This is the only possible deal that can bring stability. … I do believe it might save the country.”

Galbraith’s argument is that the constitution reflects the reality of the nation it is meant to serve. There is, he says, no meaningful Iraqi identity. In the north, you’ve got a pro-Western Kurdish population. In the south, you’ve got a Shiite majority that wants a “pale version of an Iranian state.” And in the center you’ve got a Sunni population that is nervous about being trapped in a system in which it would be overrun.

In the last election each group expressed its authentic identity, the Kurds by voting for autonomy-minded leaders, the Shiites for clerical parties and the Sunnis by not voting.

This constitution gives each group what it wants. It will create a very loose federation in which only things like fiscal and foreign policy are controlled in the center (even tax policy is decentralized). Oil revenues are supposed to be distributed on a per capita basis, and no group will feel inordinately oppressed by the others.

The Kurds and Shiites understand what a good deal this is. The Sunni leaders selected to attend the convention are howling because they are former Baathists who dream of a return to centralized power. But ordinary Sunnis, Galbraith says, will come to realize this deal protects them, too.

Galbraith says he is frustrated with all the American critics who argue that the constitution divides the country. The country is already divided, he says, and drawing up a constitution that would artificially bind three divergent societies together would create only friction, violence and civil war. “It’s not a problem if a country breaks up, only if it breaks up violently,” Galbraith says. “Iraq wasn’t created by God. It was created by Winston Churchill.”

One of my other calls yesterday went to another smart Iraq analyst, Reuel Marc Gerecht, formerly of the C.I.A. and now at the American Enterprise Institute. Gerecht’s conclusions are often miles apart from Galbraith’s, but they have one trait in common. Both of them begin their analysis by taking a hard look at the reality of Iraqi society. Neither tries to imagine what sort of constitution might be pretty to our eyes or might be good in some abstract sense. They try to envision which system comports with reality.

Gerecht is also upbeat about this constitution. It’s crazy, he says, to think that you could have an Iraqi constitution in which clerical authorities are not assigned a significant role. Voters supported clerical parties because they are, right now, the natural leaders of society and serve important social functions.

But this doesn’t mean we have to start screaming about a 13th-century theocratic state. Understanding the clerics, Gerecht has argued, means understanding two things. First, the Shiite clerical establishment has made a substantial intellectual leap. It now firmly believes in one person one vote, and rejects the Iranian model. On the other hand, these folks don’t think like us.

What’s important, Gerecht has emphasized, is the democratic process: setting up a system in which the different groups, secular and clerical, will have to bargain with one another, campaign and deal with the real-world consequences of their ideas. This is what’s going to moderate them and lead to progress. This constitution does that. Shutting them out would lead to war.

The constitution also exposes the canard that America is some imperial power trying to impose its values on the world. There are many parts of this constitution any American would love. There are other parts that are strange to us.

But when you get Galbraith and Gerecht in the same mood, you know something important has happened. The U.S. has orchestrated a document that is organically Iraqi.

It’s their country, after all. nytimes.com/2005/08/2…rint&oref=login
 
I tend to agree with him the constitution is one of the few near success stories to come out of Iraq, it’s good that Bush was behind it, mind you if you throw enough darts at a dart board eventually you must score a bull.
 
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walstan:
I tend to agree with him the constitution is one of the few near success stories to come out of Iraq, it’s good that Bush was behind it, mind you if you throw enough darts at a dart board eventually you must score a bull.
Damned with faint praise. Well, I think GWB has done better than that, but the MSM is bending over backwards to be sure the American people don’t hear about it.

Our people over there are rebuilding a country, brick by brick, town by town, by restoring hospitals and schools and other public facilities. They are reestablishing legitimate authority by training police and fire and other leaders so that, in time, Iraq can assume normal relations within itself and the rest of the world.

I don’t understand the need for some people to be so deliberately negative to the point of ignoring all the good things happening in Iraq and focusing almost solely on the difficulties. No one has said this project would be a piece of cake, but progress is being made and all thanks to our wise president who bucked popular left wing opinion and has stuck it out through thick and thin.

When I see the left come forward with any real ideas about Iraq, I will give them all the consideration they are due, but so far I have been deeply disappointed with them and fear I will have no reason to feel otherwise.
 
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walstan:
I tend to agree with him the constitution is one of the few near success stories to come out of Iraq, it’s good that Bush was behind it, mind you if you throw enough darts at a dart board eventually you must score a bull.
Or as we say hereabouts, “even a blind pig can find an acorn sometimes.”
 
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Della:
Damned with faint praise. Well, I think GWB has done better than that, but the MSM is bending over backwards to be sure the American people don’t hear about it.

Our people over there are rebuilding a country, brick by brick, town by town, by restoring hospitals and schools and other public facilities. They are reestablishing legitimate authority by training police and fire and other leaders so that, in time, Iraq can assume normal relations within itself and the rest of the world.

I don’t understand the need for some people to be so deliberately negative to the point of ignoring all the good things happening in Iraq and focusing almost solely on the difficulties. No one has said this project would be a piece of cake, but progress is being made and all thanks to our wise president who bucked popular left wing opinion and has stuck it out through thick and thin.

When I see the left come forward with any real ideas about Iraq, I will give them all the consideration they are due, but so far I have been deeply disappointed with them and fear I will have no reason to feel otherwise.
“They have no plan…they have no plan…they have no plan” has been the mantra of the left during the whole conflict. When something goes according to plan, they can’t say it’s thanks to good planning. They have to attribute it to blind luck.

Robert
 
rlg94086 said:
“They have no plan…they have no plan…they have no plan” has been the mantra of the left during the whole conflict. When something goes according to plan, they can’t say it’s thanks to good planning. They have to attribute it to blind luck.

Robert

Take your time buddy, it ain’t over till the fat lady sings.

The whole issue has to go to the Iraqi electorate as a referendum, it only takes three of the various regions NOT to accept it i.e. less than a two thirds majority for, and it fails. The Sunni’s control three regions and to date their against the federalism the present draft enshrines. Ask the bookies, their putting 20:1 against, and I’ve never met a broke bookie!
 
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walstan:
Take your time buddy, it ain’t over till the fat lady sings.

The whole issue has to go to the Iraqi electorate as a referendum, it only takes three of the various regions NOT to accept it i.e. less than a two thirds majority for, and it fails. The Sunni’s control three regions and to date their against the federalism the present draft enshrines. Ask the bookies, their putting 20:1 against, and I’ve never met a broke bookie!
So, you agree there is a plan, but you think it won’t work. I’m waiting too, but I pray for success. Are you praying for success or counting on defeat?

I don’t bet against my home team.
 
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rlg94086:
So, you agree there is a plan, but you think it won’t work. I’m waiting too, but I pray for success. Are you praying for success or counting on defeat?
I agree with Walstan. It’s not a case of success or defeat, it seems, but a case of we-can’t-make-a-final-determination yet.
 
Arba Sicula:
I agree with Walstan. It’s not a case of success or defeat, it seems, but a case of we-can’t-make-a-final-determination yet.
Oh, I see. So you don’t pray for success. Better to just wait-and-see and check with your bookie. Suit yourself. I’ll keep praying.
 
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rlg94086:
Oh, I see. So you don’t pray for success. Better to just wait-and-see and check with your bookie. Suit yourself. I’ll keep praying.
That’s good and worthwhile for you to pray about that. I certainly pray, though not about the war, and even have done some occasional praying in connection with transactions I’ve made with my bookie. 🙂
 
Arba Sicula:
I agree with Walstan. It’s not a case of success or defeat, it seems, but a case of we-can’t-make-a-final-determination yet.
Sure things could turn sour. But, the real point is–are we pulling for victory or hoping for defeat? And even more importantly, why?

Why do some people on the left just lick their chops whenever there is a problem with the new government in Iraq or an attack on our service people? What kind of patriotism is that?

I’m convinced they do it because taking the Congress and the White House from the Republicans is more important to these people than peace and prosperity in Iraq with as few casualities as possible. That would ruin their plans. I call that way of thinking sick and downright unAmerican.
 
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Della:
I’m convinced they do it because taking the Congress and the White House from the Republicans is more important to these people than peace and prosperity in Iraq with as few casualities as possible. That would ruin their plans. I call that way of thinking sick and downright unAmerican.
How can it be unamerican to want to take the White House and the Congress? That’s what the GOP did in '00.

And isn’t peace and prosperity here more important than anywhere else? I’d get our boys home in a NY minute if I could, but it’s not going to happen.
 
Arba Sicula:
How can it be unamerican to want to take the White House and the Congress? That’s what the GOP did in '00.

And isn’t peace and prosperity here more important than anywhere else? I’d get our boys home in a NY minute if I could, but it’s not going to happen.
Actually, they didn’t – when Senator Jeffords left the Republican party in 2001, the Democrats held the majority in the Senate. The Republicans did not have a majority in both houses until the elections of '02.
 
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Della:
I don’t understand the need for some people to be so deliberately negative to the point of ignoring all the good things happening in Iraq and focusing almost solely on the difficulties.
These complaints about “all the good news” that is being ignored - complaints usually directed at the “MSM” - are frankly silly. When bombs are exploding in the heart of Baghdad post “liberation”, that’s news, whether we like it or not. Should they do stories on the 100,000 cars that didn’t explode rather than the few that did?

What would you say to someone who complained about the coverage of 9/11 who said something like…

Why is the media focused on the “bad news” of 9/11? After all, they only knocked down 2 buildings. Yes, they killed 3,000 people, but what about the 5,600 other buildings in New Your that didn’t get knocked down? And the hundreds of thousands of people who weren’t killed? We should focus more attention on all the good things going on in New York and stop dwelling on the negative.
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Della:
No one has said this project would be a piece of cake,
Richard Perle and Ken Adelman did say that.
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Della:
When I see the left come forward with any real ideas about Iraq
Actually, people have expressed ideas about what should be done in Iraq, but will Bush listen?
 
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