I doubt you would EVER find a one hour Divine Liturgy in an Orthodox church. During Bright week Divine Liturgy is USUALLY combined with Paschal Matins.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a one hour Divine Liturgy anytime.
I have gone to DL at an Orthodox Church before, and it was just over an hour (say, 1.25 hours). So, if the DL and Matins are combined, about what time frame are you thinking then?
2.5 hours, would be my guess, maybe a little longer, maybe a little shorter.
Thanks for the estimate. That helps! Yeah, my UGCC is always around 1 hour for the DL. Any idea what is removed from a UGCC DL that makes it so much shorter?2.5 hours, would be my guess, maybe a little longer, maybe a little shorter.
And a 1.25 hour Divine Liturgy would NOT be the norm. I don’t think I have ever been to an Orthodox Liturgy that was under 1.5 hours…now Greek Catholic…thats another story!
On a side note. I know it probably wouldn’t affect the length of the liturgy but I’ve heard that Eastern Catholic priests typically don’t serve the Proskomedia. Is that true?1/2 the litanys.
I have not seen it done in its entirety in a Ukrainian catholic church…it seems to be making a come back among the younger Ruthenian priests…although still with pre cut particles.
I don’t understand how that works. Does no one bake a prosphora? Where does the lamb come from?I have not seen it done in its entirety in a Ukrainian catholic church…it seems to be making a come back among the younger Ruthenian priests…although still with pre cut particles.
Our priest does this but before anyone comes in for Divine Liturgy. If you arrive maybe 10-15 minutes earlier, he’s doing this.
It works like this. A prosphora or a loaf of bread is baked (regular rectangular shaped loaf). The pries will USUALLY cut a lamb if he is working with a proper prosphora…if not just a square piece he uses as a lamb. The rest is cut up into little crutons (for lack of a better word). If he does do a prothisis …he will use the crutons rather then cut particles…when he is done he puts more crutons on the diskos so he has enough for the communicants he thinks he will get that day. The lamb is put on top of the pile.
Our priests and deacon begin their entrance prayers in the temple, beginning before the Royal Doors, followed by vesting prayers and vesting about half an hour or so before DL begins. Somewhere in there there might be someone having the sacrament of confession. Then they begin the Proskomedia/Liturgy of Preparation/Office of Oblation while someone, these days usually myself, chants the 3rd Hour. Proskomedia, and chanting the 3rd Hour go on simultaneously and take about 15 minutes.
One of the worst images I’ve ever heard East or West… I hope you’re not serious…One of our parishioners bakes the phosphora (and there is a die to stamp the pattern in). Then our priest does the Proskomedia once a week sometime before the first Divine Liturgy (not immediately, because he is hearing confessions).
Unfortunately I am very serious.Our priests and deacon begin their entrance prayers in the temple, beginning before the Royal Doors, followed by vesting prayers and vesting about half an hour or so before DL begins. Somewhere in there there might be someone having the sacrament of confession. Then they begin the Proskomedia/Liturgy of Preparation/Office of Oblation while someone, these days usually myself, chants the 3rd Hour. Proskomedia, and chanting the 3rd Hour go on simultaneously and take about 15 minutes.
We’re in a tiny parish so the time of preparation is less than in a parish with hundreds of communicants and only one or two priests. We have a couple of people who normally take turns baking prosphora, as well as the priest sometimes bakes it. We have the tradition where there are individual loaves about the size of a small baking powder biscuit available before DL. People place one on their personal prayer intention book, or a prayer intention paper, with their requests for either the reposed or the living, or for both, for the priest to offer. After DL the prayer intentions books/papers are returned with the prosphora with the missing piece having been taken from it. The Lamb comes from a larger, tho not very large “loaf”. We have antidoron and wine on a side table for partaking immediately after one receives Eucharist en route back to where one is standing.
I have, but it was a village parish. Right about 1:15.2.5 hours, would be my guess, maybe a little longer, maybe a little shorter.
And a 1.25 hour Divine Liturgy would NOT be the norm. I don’t think I have ever been to an Orthodox Liturgy that was under 1.5 hours…now Greek Catholic…thats another story!
