Divine Liturgy of John Chrysostom?

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Has anyone attended a Mass celebrated with the * Divine Liturgy of John Chrysostom*? What is it like? Is it very different from our regular NO liturgy?
 
The Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom is the Divine Liturgy used by the Eastern Churches during most of the Liturgical year.

The Divine Liturgy of St. Basil the Great is used on Sundays during Great and Holy Lent.

The Liturgy of Presanctified Gifts is used on Wednesdays and Fridays during Great Lent. During Great Lent, the regular Divine Liturgy is not celebrated on weekdays except for Great Feasts such as the Feast of the Annunciation.

You may want to look at this link: esoptron.umd.edu/ugc/liturgy1.html

Hope this helps…
 
Patchunky,
I hope you don’t mind if I add a bit for clairification.
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Patchunky:
The Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom is the Divine Liturgy used by the Eastern Churches during most of the Liturgical year.
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That would be the Byzantine Churches, not all Eastern Churches us the Divine Liturgy of St John Chrysostom.
The Divine Liturgy of St. Basil the Great is used on Sundays during Great and Holy Lent.
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This is true but the laity really will not notice much of a difference as the only real differences between the two is the priest’s prayers.
The Liturgy of Presanctified Gifts is used on Wednesdays and Fridays during Great Lent. During Great Lent, the regular Divine Liturgy is not celebrated on weekdays except for Great Feasts such as the Feast of the Annunciation.
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This is true for the Slavic Byzantine Churches, the Byzantine Churches from the Middle East pray the Akathist to the Mother of God on Fridays.
 
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Elzee:
Wow - it sounds beautiful!
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It most certainly is!
Yet, the Liturgy’s musical tones are numerous and are somewhat difficult to memorize.
If the Cantor and Choir are in sync and the People do their parts, then yes it IS Heaven on Earth!
 
It would be fair to note that this is a version the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church uses. The Ruthenian Byzantine Church has shorter litanies.
 
I had the pleasure of attending a Ruthenian liturgy once. It was absolutely beautiful!!!
 
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Elzee:
Has anyone attended a Mass celebrated with the Divine Liturgy of John Chrysostom? What is it like? Is it very different from our regular NO liturgy?
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Last month I had the opportunity to attend a Chaldean liturgy, a Maronite liturgy, a Byzantine Catholic liturgy as well as the Akathist to the Mother of God at 1pm. Also a Romanian Byzantine liturgy, and a Coptic Orthodox liturgy.
 
Has anyone answered this part of ELZEE’s question:
Is it very different from our regular NO liturgy?
 
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ByzCath:
Patchunky,
I hope you don’t mind if I add a bit for clairification.

That would be the Byzantine Churches, not all Eastern Churches us the Divine Liturgy of St John Chrysostom.

This is true but the laity really will not notice much of a difference as the only real differences between the two is the priest’s prayers.

This is true for the Slavic Byzantine Churches, the Byzantine Churches from the Middle East pray the Akathist to the Mother of God on Fridays.
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Thanks David!

I was only thinking of my Ruthenian parish. We don’t have any of the other Eastern Rites where I live except for the Ukrainians. They’re pretty much the same as our parish except for the use of Ukrainian…
 
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TNT:
Has anyone answered this part of ELZEE’s question:
Is it very different from our regular NO liturgy?
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Depends.

The general format of Reading, Gospel, Eucharist are in the same order.

But other than that, your average ‘Joe in the pew’ Roman Catholic would find it very different.

Here is a missal of the Liturgy

esoptron.umd.edu/ugc/liturgy1.html

And here is a video of the Divine Liturgy being celebrated

byzantines.net/realaudio/index.htm
 
I watched the video and listened to the files. A truly beautiful and moving Mass. It seems very reverential, much more so than many Novus Ordo Masses I have been to.
 
No, Byzantines don’t genuflect, they bow. The whole spirituality and theology differ from that of the “trad” roman catholic. Some of the older churches have a tabernacle, some newer ones have a little one. Communion in the tabernacle is consecrated on Holy Thursday and kept for sick calls and Pre-Sanctified Liturgy during Lent. Eucharistic Adoration, novenas, etc… are not part of the Byzantine Tradition, although I’m sure it goes on in some parishes, but you won’t find benediction and monstances, or at least you shouldn’t.
 
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mgy100:
It would be fair to note that this is a version the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church uses. The Ruthenian Byzantine Church has shorter litanies.
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Not really. Just many of our parishes in the Byzantine (Ruthenian) Catholic Church use less of the litanies. The litanies are the same they just don’t use them all. Again, that is only in some of the praishes.
 
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TNT:
THANKS!
Watching it…so far no genuflection into the pew. Is there no active tabernacle?
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We do not genuflect. We bow to the tabernacle.

Yes there is a tabernacle, it usually looks like a minature Church and it sits on the back of the altar.
 
If the Divine Liturgy of John Chrysostom is the usual liturgy that the Greek Orthodox use for funerals, yes I’ve attended.

It was pretty interesting, although tiring to stand for such a long period of time. Of course I didn’t know how long it was going to be when I attended, and since I don’t know Greek there was no way to figure how it was progressing.
 
Dave,
There are differences between the wording. The local Ukie church says in the Creed , “For us,” while the Ruysns say, “For us me.” The wording is different in many places throughout the liturgy (at least here and at the 71st otpusty @Uniontown). The Ruthenians can use the litanies the Ukies use, none around here do however that I have seen, and they didn’t use them at the liturgies at Uniontown’sky that I attended.
 
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mgy100:
Dave,
There are differences between the wording. The local Ukie church says in the Creed , “For us,” while the Ruysns say, “For us me.” The wording is different in many places throughout the liturgy (at least here and at the 71st otpusty @Uniontown). The Ruthenians can use the litanies the Ukies use, none around here do however that I have seen, and they didn’t use them at the liturgies at Uniontown’sky that I attended.
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The English wording depends on which translation you’re using.

As for the Litanies, this depends on which Eparch you are in. The Eparchy of Passaic changed parts of the Divine Liturgy 2-3 years ago to follow what the Eparch did when he was in Parma.

I know the Archeparchy of Munhall HAS NOT made the same changes that Passaic has.

There is also a “new” Divine Liturgy in the “works” with new music. It’s supposed to make it easier to sing in English but judging by what I heard at the Otpust over Labor Day, this ain’t gonna happen…
 
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