Divine Mercy Sunday - Today!

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Since the Church has pretty much picked up and endorsed the “devotion” in terms of having a special Sunday for it and praying the Divine Mercy chaplet and novena, it’s completely unclear what you are “abandoning”
 
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a devotion approved by the Church does not oblige us to follow this devotion. The Sunday of Divine Mercy is to worship the mercy of God. It can be done without mentioning the devotions of Saint Faustine
 
I don’t think it’s an official solemnity… if that was the case, the readings would have changed when it was created. The official name given in our lectionary is “The Second Sunday of Easter”, and in parentheses (Divine Mercy Sunday), similar to “The Nativity of Our Lord (Christmas)” or “The Commemoration of all the Faithful Departed (All Souls Day)”. It seems to be the popular name, as in those cases, not the official name. Also, no one is required to pray the chaplet… if a parish offers it that day, it is outside the context of mass.
 
In 2000, the Vatican decreed that the Second Sunday of Easter will be known as “Divine Mercy Sunday”. It’s not an optional memorial and it’s universal.

It’s true that you don’t have to pray the chaplet, any more than you have to pray the Rosary; however, both are strongly endorsed by the Vatican as being excellent private devotions.

Like I said, if you want to reject things strongly endorsed by the Vatican, it’s on your head. Seems like a bad decision to me, but then again people spend all day on here complaining about various Popes.

And if you want to reject the free gift of God’s mercy, that’s on your head also. Seems like a rash decision to me, but whatever floats your boat.
 
It’s true that you don’t have to pray the chaplet, any more than you have to pray the Rosary; however, both are strongly endorsed by the Vatican as being excellent private devotions.
Can you give us an encyclical, a text of the Magisterium that encourages the devotion of St. Faustina?
On the other hand, the devotion to Rosary was solemnly approved by several Popes in the exercise of their magisterium. There are a month entirely devoted to the devotion of the rosary.
we does not put on the same level a strictly private devotion (devotion of Saint Faustina) and an official devotion (the devotion to the rosary)
 
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One can not put on the same level a devotion recognized by the Magisterium, and by several Popes, to a strictly private devotion. Even though the rosary is a private devotional, it has a solemn and official character that places it above many other devotions that are strictly private.
And also the Virgin Mary appeared publicly, made public miracles that increase the credibility of the devotion to the Rosary.
 
The Virgin Mary’s appearances are also private revelations.
Catholics are not required to believe in any of those, including Fatima, Lourdes, Guadalupe etc.
And many Catholics do not believe in them, for the same reasons you yourself don’t believe St. Faustina.

Bottom line is that Rosary and Divine Mercy Chaplet are both private devotions.
Catholics are not required to say either of them, ever, regardless of what you yourself think of them or choose to do.
Catholics are not even required to say the Hail Mary.

The Marian apparitions and Jesus’ apparitions to St. Faustina are both private revelations.
They are not part of the deposit of faith.
Catholics are not required to believe in any of them.
 
Yes, but the Magisterium has officially and on several occasions and in its greatest solemnity recognized the importance of the Rosary, and that is what makes all the difference and gives the rosary a character of official devotion. Above all other devotions
 
When one sees the number of encyclicals written on the rosary by various Popes, and an encyclical has a character of infallibility when it speaks of Faith or Morality then one understands very well that the rosary is a devotion almost obligatory if one really want to be saved.
 
Again, in your mind, only.

The Rosary is not and has never been obligatory.

And some of us would likewise see the Divine Mercy devotion as “almost obligatory” if we “really want to be saved” because we need God’s mercy.

You’re just making subjective judgments based on what devotions you prefer. And you’re allowed to make those judgments. But it’s important to note that it’s just that, your personal opinion. The Magisterium does not obligate anyone to practice a particular private devotion.
 
The rosary is officially recognized and approved by the Church even if it does not oblige, the devotion to holy faustine is not!
there is a difference between what is officially recognized by the Church and what is not!
 
The Divine Mercy Chaplet is “approved by the Church”.
Pope John Paul II prayed it himself.
It is posted and broadcast on EWTN station and website.
I’m not sure where you get the idea it’s somehow not officially approved.

You obviously have a huge bias that is coloring your responses, so I think I will bow out of the conversation now. God bless
 
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Can you give me a magisterial document of Pope JPII which officially approves the devotion proposed by Saint Faustine?
 
Dear 1959,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, that was the intention JPII:
To ensure that the faithful would observe this day with intense devotion, the Supreme Pontiff himself established that this Sunday be enriched by a plenary indulgence, as will be explained below, so that the faithful might receive in great abundance the gift of the consolation of the Holy Spirit. In this way, they can foster a growing love for God and for their neighbour, and after they have obtained God’s pardon, they in turn might be persuaded to show a prompt pardon to their brothers and sisters…
Thus the faithful will more closely conform to the spirit of the Gospel, receiving in their hearts the renewal that the Second Vatican Council explained and introduced: "Mindful of the words of the Lord: "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another’ (Jn 13,35), Christians can yearn for nothing more ardently than to serve the men of this age with an ever growing generosity and success… It is the Father’s will that we should recognize Christ our brother in the persons of all men and love them with an effective love, in word and in deed (Pastoral Constitution, Gaudium et spes, n. 93)…
And so the Supreme Pontiff, motivated by an ardent desire to foster in Christians this devotion to Divine Mercy as much as possible in the hope of offering great spiritual fruit to the faithful… granted on 13 June 2002, to those Responsible for the Apostolic Penitentiary, granted the following …
a plenary indulgence, granted under the usual conditions (sacramental confession, Eucharistic communion and prayer for the intentions of Supreme Pontiff) to the faithful who, on the Second Sunday of Easter or Divine Mercy Sunday, in any church or chapel, in a spirit that is completely detached from the affection for a sin, even a venial sin, take part in the prayers and devotions held in honour of Divine Mercy, or who, in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament exposed or reserved in the tabernacle, recite the Our Father and the Creed, adding a devout prayer to the merciful Lord Jesus (e.g. Merciful Jesus, I trust in you!")…
Priests who exercise pastoral ministry, especially parish priests, should inform the faithful in the most suitable way of the Church’s salutary provision…
This Decree has perpetual force, any provision to the contrary notwithstanding.
Archbishop Luigi De Magistris,
Tit. Archbishop of Nova
Major Pro-Penitentiary
Fr Gianfranco Girotti, O.F.M. Conv.,
 
While one can or cannot believe in the private revelations to St. Faustina, there is nothing in her writings that contradicts the very ancient worship in the Church of the Divine Mercy. That worship is everywhere expressed, in its teachings, encyclicals, prayers, and the testimony of many saints. St. Faustina, you might say, just put a “stamp” on a matter already wholeheartedly embraced by the Church.
I’d be interested in learning exactly the part of St. Faustina’s revelations that mboo objects to.
 
Dear limoncello4021,

I agree with you, but having read through the interchange between mboo and Tis_Bearself, I honestly could not clearly discern exactly what mboo’s objections were – if you’ve read through their conversation on the thread perhaps you couldn’t discern exactly either.

We might speculate, but I don’t think that is wise since we cannot read hearts, only God can. Let us continue to pray that God may enlighten all of us through the power of His Holy Spirit to hear and to do the Truth we hear from His Revelation in: Scripture, Tradition and the Magisterium. Thanks for your reply. 🙂
 
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