Divine Praises and the Sunday Obligation

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From the CCEO:
Canon 881
  1. The Christian faithful are bound by the obligation to participate on Sundays and feast days in the Divine Liturgy, or according to the prescriptions or legitimate customs of their own Church sui iuris, in the celebration of the divine praise
Does the Ruthenian church in America allow for this? My priest says yes, but I cannot find anything confirming this from the Eparchy of Parma or the Archeparchy of Pittsburgh.
 
From the CCEO:
Canon 881
  1. The Christian faithful are bound by the obligation to participate on Sundays and feast days in the Divine Liturgy, or according to the prescriptions or legitimate customs of their own Church sui iuris, in the celebration of the divine praise
I don’t know about the divine praises specifically, but I have always understood that attendance at Vespers for the Feast or Sunday fulfills the obligation.
 
Does the Ruthenian church in America allow for this? My priest says yes, but I cannot find anything confirming this from the Eparchy of Parma or the Archeparchy of Pittsburgh.
aside from the question of the illegitimacy of the very existence of the CCEO (which has been addressed ad nauseam in other threads, so let’s not veer that direction here), current practice for the Pittsburgh nee Ruthenian Metropolia seems to be a Saturday evening liturgy rather than vespers, even among conservative clergy. In some parishes, it is the regular DL, while in others it is the so-called “vespergy”, in which an abbreviated (?) vespers cuts directly to lamp lighting and the Little Entrance.

(historically, there is no such thing as a Saturday evening Sunday liturgy in either form; it came about as set defense when parishioners were being lost to RC parishes when they started Saturday evening liturgies).
 
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Does the Ruthenian church in America allow for this? My priest says yes, but I cannot find anything confirming this from the Eparchy of Parma or the Archeparchy of Pittsburgh.
aside from the question of the illegitimacy of the very existence of the CCEO (which has been addressed ad nauseam in other threads, so let’s not veer that direction here), current practice for the Pittsburgh nee Ruthenian Metropolia seems to be a Saturday evening liturgy rather than vespers, even among conservative clergy. In some parishes, it is the regular DL, while in others it is the so-called “vespergy”, in which an abbreviated (?) vespers cuts directly to lamp lighting and the Little Entrance.

(historically, there is no such thing as a Saturday evening Sunday liturgy in either form; it came about as set defense when parishioners were being lost to RC parishes when they started Saturday evening liturgies).
This is not the case for our parish. In fact, our priest mentioned that he strongly dislikes this practice, invented for “pastoral reasons”, in his Christmas homily. It is definitely a latinization and a move away from recovering our traditions.
 
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This isn’t something just on the EC side of things…

Vespers Liturgies (evening Liturgies must always be attached to vespers served up through the festal OT readings) to celebrate feasts are not uncommon for Orthodox (OCA) - at least in my experience. Although I tend to be a more hardcore “serve everything in its fullness” I have found myself mellowing on that stance after the birth of my son.

In my own parish situation, I know my priest would prefer not to serve vesperal liturgies in favor of vespers or vigil and Divine Liturgy, but that just isn’t practical. We have a great choir Sunday mornings, but for any service outside of that, we typically have the choir director and maybe one other voice. Same for readers, typically the same few (I’m one of them). And apart from the priest all have secular employment to schedule around. It is indeed a “pastoral” accommodation, but we haven’t figured out any practical alternatives.
 
(historically, there is no such thing
Historically, people walked a few minutes to their parish church in the village square. They did not drive, let alone drive hours in the sparse diapsora to attend services. It is not improper to consider how to adjust services so that more rather than fewer can attend.

Historically, people received communion very infrequently. That pattern of behavior has changed, and I believe that most see that change as a good thing. Again, it is not improper to consider how to adjust services so that more rather than fewer are able to receive the Eucharist.

I hope that our churches prioritize the enrichment of the spiritual lives of their people. That is our true tradition.
 
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(historically, there is no such thing as a Saturday evening Sunday liturgy in either form; it came about as set defense when parishioners were being lost to RC parishes when they started Saturday evening liturgies)
The Byzantine liturgical day starts with Vespers and ends with Ninth Hour so an evening Divine Liturgy seems OK. My late mother liked the Saturday evening Divine Liturgy because it was all in English. Occasionally she’d go to Sunday Divine Liturgy but it was part Ukrainian, part English. She was Byzantine and grew up with the Liturgy in Slavonic so she had a hard time learning Ukrainian.
 
Thank you for posting that booklet! (I have almost the entire series.) You’re a gem.
 
The Byzantine liturgical day starts with Vespers and ends with Ninth Hour so an evening Divine Liturgy seems OK.
In those terms, absolutely.

It’s just not how it got introduced into regular usage.

The EC handled transition to the new vernacular far better than the RCC (and a decade or two ahead of it!).

[for RCC folks, Eastern liturgy has always been in a vernacular. Church Slavonic was invented by SS C&L in order to be comprehensible to the slavic peoples, as Eastern liturgy has always been in the vernacular!]
 
My late mother liked the Saturday evening Divine Liturgy because it was all in English.
In her last years, my late mother like evening Divine Liturgy because she was not readily able to make services on the morning.
she’d go to Sunday Divine Liturgy but it was part Ukrainian, part English. She was Byzantine and grew up with the Liturgy in Slavonic so she had a hard time learning Ukrainian.
Very interesting. This story should dispel the idea that Church Slavonic is vernacular to Slavs.
 
In her last years, my late mother like evening Divine Liturgy because she was not readily able to make services on the morning.

(Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.) Margaret_Ann:
The number of folks at our Saturday liturgy that need frequently more time, whether due to pain, arthritis, or such, or helping a spouse, is significant . . .
 
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