Divine Will Cenacle

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So one of my fellow parishioner have been engouraging me to join in thier Divine Will Cenacle. I’m curious with Luisa Piccareta writings and read one the booklet given to me by this parishioner friend.

Upon further research, I found out that she is considered for canoninzation ( Though her confessoris already a Saint).

So my question(s) is : Should I join the cenacle ?
Does the Vatican approve such propogation ?

If you have any resources with the writings and other related reference to Luisa Piccareta, please kindly do share it. I’m a bit skeptical but interested in spirtuality she is propogating.

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I have been advised to read the 24 hours of the Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ by Luisa Piccarreta. I don’t know a great deal about Luisa Piccarreta or her writings, but I believe the cause for her beatification is open. I have read the Blessed Anne Emerich’s Dolorous Passion and it was one of the most moving things I have ever read. Has anyone here read Luisa Piccarreta’s 24 hours of the Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ?
This might be helpful.
 
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On your topic of sharing resources about Luisa’s writings, they are at this point unapproved private revelations, as I understand the Vatican has not yet approved them, so we cannot discuss the material of the writings or share resources about them because posting material from unapproved private revelations is against the TOS of the forum. I know there is one priest who promotes her and sells his own translation/ condensed edition of her extremely voluminous writings that he claims has some kind of Vatican approval, but because he is not affiliated with the Archbishop of Trani who is in charge of the project to translate her writings and eventually prepare some edition that will (hopefully) be approved by the Church for people to read, I find his claims a little sketchy, especially since he seems to have made his own little cottage industry out of promoting her. I myself might still read his book but with the understanding that it is not the official edition, which has yet to come out of Trani. So his book might have errors in it.

On your topic of the cenacle, many churches have such cenacles. I don’t think the Vatican has an objection to them at this stage. As you said, Luisa is on the path to sainthood, and such prayer groups are often formed by those who want to promote the cause of a particular person. They are considered “evidence of cult” and are important for showing the Vatican that the person being considered for sainthood has a following. I would first ask if the local pastor and bishop have approved the cenacle meeting. If the meeting has been properly approved at the local level, then it is up to you whether you go, knowing that you will likely be exposed to various theological concepts that the Vatican has not yet approved and that some theologians like Fr. John Hardon have objected to.

I have been to a few of these cenacle meetings because I got curious after the last time somebody asked about Luisa on here. (See the previous thread that somebody posted.) The meetings were interesting from a standpoint of learning a little more about Luisa, her writings, and writings about her. They also pray a rosary with some meditations and that also seems okay. However, some of the theology being presented at the meetings was a bit unusual, and not everyone who comes to the meetings is well-grounded in Catholic catechesis. There are certain groups of Catholics who just love to rush to meetings on every new, unapproved private revelation and basically take everything that is allegedly said by the mystic as being truth (often relating it to some political or moral development happening in the world today). As that is not my approach, I sometimes have to step away from that and just learn about the mystic on my own, not in a group meeting. YMMV.
 
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Thanks for the (name removed by moderator)ut. Actually, when I asked her who encourage her to form a cenacle in our prarish, turned out that one of the priest within our parish did so( Not the pastor himself). So I think it’s approved by the bishop.

But reading again the booklet, I’m still skeptical with some of the theological aspects of her private revelation.

I have also read previous threads before posting this thread. I was hoping that we can shed a new light on the topic. Maybe new information( Some threads were posted 2005 to 2010). But I’ll reread it again to conprehend the confusing revelation of this woman.

Thanks again
 
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Aside from not being able to discuss unapproved private revelations on this forum, Luisa’s written output is huge and I don’t think we would be able to plow through all of it on here even if we were allowed to.

Don’t feel like you have to participate in any cenacles and such if you don’t want to. Catholics don’t have to believe private revelations even if they are approved. It’s okay to just say “it’s not for me”. Even the leader of our local cenacle said it was okay if people decided, after attending a couple meetings, that it was not something they wanted to participate in.
 
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I understand . She told me the same thing. But I got facisnated with the booklet though at the same time skeptical.

It’s like I want to study her private revelation but still not participate in any meeting

Anyway, thank you for your (name removed by moderator)ut
 
On your topic of sharing resources about Luisa’s writings, they are at this point unapproved private revelations, as I understand the Vatican has not yet approved them, so we cannot discuss the material of the writings or share resources about them because posting material from unapproved private revelations is against the TOS of the forum.
The 24 hours of the Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ has an Imprimatur. I know that an Imprimatur might not be the ‘be all and end all’, but does that not at least change whether or not at least that particular part of her writings can be discussed?
 
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A lot of these unapproved private revelations have aspects to them, such as prayers, that have been “approved for faith expression” by imprimaturs or by the Bishop allowing prayer cenacles to meet.

We’re allowed to discuss on here the stuff that’s “approved for faith expression”. Like, I can discuss on here the practice of the Hours of the Passion, or the special Hail Mary that is said by the Flame of Love movement in their cenacles, or the medal approved by the Archbishop of Cincinnati in connection with the apparitions to Sister Mildred Neuzil (Sister Mary Ephrem). However, I can’t discuss any of the private revelations associated with these devotions. It makes it a little hard to draw the line in creating a discussion topic, and also by starting these discussions you run the risk that someone wants to take it a step further and discuss the revelation or apparition or whatever.

However, if you have a discussion topic regarding “Hours of the Passion” that doesn’t involve getting into a discussion of the revelations to Luisa, you could give it a shot.

Are you actually doing the Hours of the Passion devotion? If so, how is it? I have considered trying it at some point in the future (can’t do it now as I am completely booked with current devotions).
 
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Are you actually doing the Hours of the Passion devotion? If so, how is it? I have considered trying it at some point in the future (can’t do it now as I am completely booked with current devotions).
I did it over Lent. I found it is quite difficult at times, but worthwhile. I think it is probably best not to discuss the detail as I think it might take away from someone doing the devotion by finding out too much about it beforehand. I would recommend it.
 
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Might be my next Lent project. This Lent was already spoken for with two other prayer projects.

I further noticed that there is a group of sisters devoted to the Divine Will, the “Benedictine Daughters of the Divine Will”, who have been approved as a Pious Association by the Archbishop of Trani who has the authority in such matters. Also a group of Benedictine monks of the Divine Will approved and operating at Mons.

I do not understand why it takes so long to get the writings of Luisa approved and out, given that we have all these prayer cenacles, sisters, monks etc. It is all very confusing to me.
 
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The 24 hours of the Passion was my first reading of the writings of Luisa Piccarreta. The style of language is different, but very heartfelt and passionate.

I did once go to a Divine Will presentation once. It didn’t gel with me then, but perhaps I might go to another one. We are often ‘different people’ from how we were in the past, I think, even though we don’t often realise the degree to which we change.
 
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