Divorced and Remarried

[neweggs]

The Pope does not want to change that. To even suggest that is an insult to His Holiness Pope Francis I.

Yes I know that ,but it,s the young generation that want to see it be changed, and people that are divorced and yes the Pope is against it,we must pray for our Pope Francis,because they are attacking the Pope on yahoo .com Internet, I pray each day for him. for the Holy Spirit is guide him,and watch over him. AMEN

 

[alphomega]

In the eyes of God marriage is tell death you part, as the vows you said at the Alter. Re marring is wrong, receiving Holy Communion is wrong,and many Catholics don,t like that the Pope want,s too change that,May Jesus have Mercy on those that are not doing God,s will… Mary please come too the aid of others that don,t follow God,s word,s Amen

The Pope does not want to change that. To even suggest that is an insult to His Holiness Pope Francis I.

Yes I know that ,but it,s the young generation that want to see it be changed, and people that are divorced and yes the Pope is against it,we must pray for our Pope Francis,because they are attacking the Pope on yahoo .com Internet, I pray each day for him. for the Holy Spirit is guide him,and watch over him. AMEN

How do you know know this.

 

[dans0622]

…The priest asserted that the Church has had law allowing this certain certain circumstances since the early 1900’s. …

Hello,

That’s a fascinating assertion. I would not believe it until I see it (i.e., this “law”).

Dan

 

[cradlecatholic5]

Well stated. The annulment process was a long nightmare for me. I respect Papa Francis for realizing that perhaps the process could be streamlined or evaluated individually by a local Pastor.

Mary.

:thumbsup:

It’s quite frustrating, to say the least. Took 2.5 years for us. Have a wonderful husband that is anxiously awaiting to be received in the Church.

 

[ProdigalSun]

The Pope does not want to change that. To even suggest that is an insult to His Holiness Pope Francis I.

German Bishops seem to think he is allowing them to give out communion to those in adulteress relationships.

 

[ProdigalSun]

Papa Francis lived in the real world for his entire life, not part of the rarified corps of Vatican administrators. As a pastor, he dealt with the issue of marriage and divorce on a routine basis. One of his first moves when he was chosen was to streamline the annulment process so that a person isn’t first broken hearted by a failed marriage and then brokenhearted by the ridiculous hoops they must jump through in order to receive an annulment. Imagine being married to a man or woman who beats you on a regular basis, yet you have to prove to the marriage tribunal that the marriage wasn’t valid from the time you said “I Do”. I personally do not understand those Catholics who do not want those with failed marriages to have full access to the Eucharist whether they have had an annulment or not.

Those with failed marriages (even if they have no annulment) have every right to have access to the Eucharist. Not sure why you believe differently. All people with mortal sin have a duty to not present themselves for Communion.

 

[ProdigalSun]

I’ve never heard of this before.
You’re saying the Church doesn’t grant annulments in the case of domestic abuse?
If that is true, then that is truly a mess.
That’s withholding the Eucharist from an abuse victim. How is that acceptable? What message does that send to the abuse victim?

Maybe I’m misunderstanding you.

I think you are not misunderstanding him as much as he is not explaining the process properly.

An Annulment is not a divorce! An Annulment is a statement of fact that there was indeed “NEVER” an actual marriage in the first place. Domestic Abuse may be one of the conditions that helps prove that a marraige was never entered into but does not in and of itself annul a marriage. I hope that helps!

 

[neweggs]

In the eyes of God marriage is tell death you part, as the vows you said at the Alter. Re marring is wrong, receiving Holy Communion is wrong,and many Catholics don,t like that the Pope want,s too change that,May Jesus have Mercy on those that are not doing God,s will… Mary please come too the aid of others that don,t follow God,s word,s Amen

How do you know know this.

I follow the news about what their saying on Yahoo.com

 

[alphomega]

I follow the news about what their saying on Yahoo.com

I see. Well that clears that up. Thank you.

 

[MaryT777]

It’s quite frustrating, to say the least. Took 2.5 years for us. Have a wonderful husband that is anxiously awaiting to be received in the Church.

The Church had determined the process for getting a declaration of nullity (annulment) This process is not infallible. An annulment requiring examination from the tribunal, witnesses, answering literally some 100 questions and is not infallible by any means. This decision goes through TWO courts, first instance and second instance. They may not agree with each other. Then more of a nightmare for you.

The process is a real burden if you are not one to gossip about your marriage to others. That’s how you actually come up with witnesses.

The real problem is many Catholics don’t understand the process so how are witnesses supposed to “get it.” They usually write pages about what happened during the marriage even though you tell them the tribunal evaluates the consent at the time of the marriage.

The very same Church Jesus Christ entrusted with this process can certainly by her authority streamline or change this process. It appears Pope Francis is ready to look more closely at the burden it puts on the faithful.

God bless our Pope,

Mary.

 

[plefe]

The sermon I heard this past Sunday focused a great deal on the situation surrounding the decision by the German bishops to begin a process to allow for divorced and remarried Catholics to receive communion.

The priest asserted that the Church has had law allowing this certain certain circumstances since the early 1900’s. I looked into this as I had never heard of this before and found that this was only allowed if the pastor is said situation deemed that scandal would not be caused and the couple would live as brother and sister. The priest failed to mention this important part of the canonical law.

My question is, am I just unable to find what he is talking about or did the priest leave leave out the requirements that the church laid out. This would make more sense that the couple would have no longer be living as a man and wife but could still provide for any children.

It would not make sense to me to have a stipulation that allows for a couple to continue to live with someone they are not sacramentaly married to and receive communion.

Wow. I got married out of the Church living away from the Church and needed desperately to come back to the sacraments. I lived as brother and sister for 2 years with my wife who is now Catholic while I spent my heart out going through a proper annulment. I/we were not allowed communion and would not ever expected to receive the sacraments until all was settled. No guarantee an annulment will be granted. I relived the heartache all over again. Then one day I received a long document from the Canonical lawyer I was working with that stated I was free. What a blessing to be unbound from such devastation. In Jesus, Mary, and Joseph