Do 98% of Catholic Women Use Contraceptives?

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I didn’t say that. I answered a different question.

The question was “… why do they think there is an accessibility issue when it comes to getting contraceptives?”

The issue is not about accessibility, it’s about insurance coverage.
Indeed, Michael, but they frame it that way. When one listens to the voices in favor of the HHS mandate, they talk about accessibility of contraceptives.

They say it is a right, but the only right I know of that the constitution speaks of where the financial ability to access it is overcome by government power, is the right to an attorney when accused.

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I didn’t say that. I answered a different question.

The question was “… why do they think there is an accessibility issue when it comes to getting contraceptives?”

The issue is not about accessibility, it’s about insurance coverage.
I happen to think the insurance companies are running the show. Could you elaborate on your position?
 
The number is greatly exaggerated.

First off 98% of Catholic women are not necessarily capbable of having children. After menopause, they do not need contraceptives. My guess is that there are much more than 2% who have passed menopause.

Second, there are most likely much more than 2% who follow Church teaching either by abstaining or using natural methods. Remember many Catholic women are nuns, probably not as many as 2%, but combined with the folks who are not capable and the other folks who abide by the rules, 98% is way out of line.
 
The number is greatly exaggerated.

First off 98% of Catholic women are not necessarily capbable of having children. After menopause, they do not need contraceptives. My guess is that there are much more than 2% who have passed menopause.

Second, there are most likely much more than 2% who follow Church teaching either by abstaining or using natural methods. Remember many Catholic women are nuns, probably not as many as 2%, but combined with the folks who are not capable and the other folks who abide by the rules, 98% is way out of line.
The study was based on women of childbearing year who are currently sexually active, but it is still skewed. Here is an article explaining the nature of the sampling bias used to arrive a the 98% figure.
 
I would guess it is off by 5 % due to the fact that some (like me) use it for medical reasons and not for birth control reasons.
I’m sorry I don’t mean to be rude, but I’ve never come across someone say that they use contraceptive for medical reasons. Maybe someone else should answer this. Please don’t answer me if you don’t want to CathyMary.
 
I’m sorry I don’t mean to be rude, but I’ve never come across someone say that they use contraceptive for medical reasons. Maybe someone else should answer this. Please don’t answer me if you don’t want to CathyMary.
Zundrah, meet Corki. 🙂 I was prescribed birth control pills for over 5 years (10 different prescriptions) by doctors who thought my gyno problems were hormonal. It turns out they were wrong, but that’s another story. :mad:
 
I’m sorry I don’t mean to be rude, but I’ve never come across someone say that they use contraceptive for medical reasons. Maybe someone else should answer this. Please don’t answer me if you don’t want to CathyMary.
There are legitimate reasons to take birth control pills as hormonal treatments for different conditions, but the ethical implications of it are complex, because it depends on the old double effect argument. Double effect is a principle from St. Thomas that says you can do an action for a moral purpose that might have some secondary effect that is harmful and would be immoral in other circumstances. For instance, if a train is going to run off a cliff, it is licit to switch the rail so the train avoids the cliff even though this might cause it to run over a person on the other track. Double effect reasoning is definitely valid, but it can be applied very promiscuously by some theologians, used to justify almost anything. An important principle that has to be born in mind is that of proportionality: there needs to be some significant difference in proportion between the good effect of an act and its bad secondary effects. That makes medical use of birth control a tough subject, because you have to ask, “Are the health needs of a woman of such gravity that she can use a drug that could cause to to abort an embryo?” Usually the answer is no, but there are cases where “yes” is defensible, most obviously for women who are past childbearing, or single and chaste.

The good news is that most (not all) of the conditions you can use birth control to treat have alternative treatments as well, though not all doctors are equally informed about them. Women who have conditions that can be helped by taking birth control shouldn’t go it alone, but should contact their diocese and consult with someone who is well versed in Catholic bioethics before making the decision.
 
Zundrah, meet Corki. 🙂 I was prescribed birth control pills for over 5 years (10 different prescriptions) by doctors who thought my gyno problems were hormonal. It turns out they were wrong, but that’s another story. :mad:
Hewwo Corki 😃

I never really thought about this sort of thing. Oh and you should sue them.
 
There are legitimate reasons to take birth control pills as hormonal treatments for different conditions, but the ethical implications of it are complex, because it depends on the old double effect argument. Double effect is a principle from St. Thomas that says you can do an action for a moral purpose that might have some secondary effect that is harmful and would be immoral in other circumstances. For instance, if a train is going to run off a cliff, it is licit to switch the rail so the train avoids the cliff even though this might cause it to run over a person on the other track. Double effect reasoning is definitely valid, but it can be applied very promiscuously by some theologians, used to justify almost anything. An important principle that has to be born in mind is that of proportionality: there needs to be some significant difference in proportion between the good effect of an act and its bad secondary effects. That makes medical use of birth control a tough subject, because you have to ask, “Are the health needs of a woman of such gravity that she can use a drug that could cause to to abort an embryo?” Usually the answer is no, but there are cases where “yes” is defensible, most obviously for women who are past childbearing, or single and chaste.

The good news is that most (not all) of the conditions you can use birth control to treat have alternative treatments as well, though not all doctors are equally informed about them. Women who have conditions that can be helped by taking birth control shouldn’t go it alone, but should contact their diocese and consult with someone who is well versed in Catholic bioethics before making the decision.
Thank you Soren.
 
I’m sorry I don’t mean to be rude, but I’ve never come across someone say that they use contraceptive for medical reasons. Maybe someone else should answer this. Please don’t answer me if you don’t want to CathyMary.
Verbiage is important here. You don’t take contraceptives for medical reasons. You take medicine (hormones, etc.) for medical purposes which has a contraceptive side effects. What is normally referred to as birth control pills are actually hormones that have an effect on the body. There are legitimate reasons to take hormones. The problem is that in western culture, people are overmedicated in general, and that is also true of prescribing hormones for every little issue.
 
The 98% stat is designed for sensationalism. That does not downplay the issue, since a great many Catholic couples use contraception.
 
Verbiage is important here. You don’t take contraceptives for medical reasons. You take medicine (hormones, etc.) for medical purposes which has a contraceptive side effects. What is normally referred to as birth control pills are actually hormones that have an effect on the body. There are legitimate reasons to take hormones. The problem is that in western culture, people are overmedicated in general, and that is also true of prescribing hormones for every little issue.
This is exactly right.
 
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