Do All Dogs Go To Heaven? New Books Seem To Think So

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Herein is the one reason I believe that we might have interaction with the wider creation, even animals.

We believe in the … resurrection of the body and life everlasting. We do not pass from the physical life. If God intended a spiritual union in the beatific vision to be a purely spiritual event, then why is there going to be a bodily resurrection. We will not be beings of Spirit only in the resurrection, but like now, both physical and spiritual. I do not know what heaven will be like, but the Catholic teaching precludes a kind of spirit only Borg-like assimilation.

We will have bodies.
that doesn’t mean our bodies will be anything like the ones we have now…

i don’t think anyone can imagine Heaven except that we know its going to be a place where there is no more pain, no more heartache… no more death or dying or aging or anything that troubles us… no more desiring things we can’t have… (like brad Pitt)😃
 
There is no proof, either way. This is not an area the Church has proclaimed any revealed truth. This is an exchange of opinions.
Thank you. We just lost our 13 year old lab this afternoon, and I sure hope I get to see her again one day.
 
Would be a shame if our pets went there and we didn’t!! But I think all that God ever created, except for the souls in Hell, will be created anew in Heaven, why not!! Certainly doesn’t hurt to think so. I prefer to think so anyway because I have had some great pets.
 
I do not think this is an issue the Church has ever official pronounced on, or needed to. Animals are not needed in heaven. I know St. Thomas considered their soul temporary.
If you believe animals are not in heaven because they are not needed, then we won’t be there either based on that logic. God is infinite and eternal and as such is in need of NOTHING, including man. We are joined with him in heaven because he WILLS it, not because he NEEDS it.
 
If you believe animals are not in heaven because they are not needed, then we won’t be there either based on that logic. God is infinite and eternal and as such is in need of NOTHING, including man. We are joined with him in heaven because he WILLS it, not because he NEEDS it.
There are no animals in Heaven because the Church teaches that only humans from all creation have a supernatural end, i.e. our souls are immortal. You don’t need to be a rocket sciencist to understand that means animals do not have a supernatural end and so their souls die when the animal dies.
 
If you believe animals are not in heaven because they are not needed, then we won’t be there either based on that logic. God is infinite and eternal and as such is in need of NOTHING, including man. We are joined with him in heaven because he WILLS it, not because he NEEDS it.
Animals are not needed in heaven, they are needed here on earth. All of creation is geared towards man. Yes, God does not need man, but God made man out of genuine love. And all of creation came to be for man. We join Him in heaven because He loves us.
 
Animals are not needed in heaven, they are needed here on earth. All of creation is geared towards man. Yes, God does not need man, but God made man out of genuine love. And all of creation came to be for man. We join Him in heaven because He loves us.
Yes, and He loves our animals also. To some of us He gives a share in that love, that we might see and learn something of His love from the animals which He has given us. I am sorry if you do not have that love, but to think that it does not exist just because you do not experience it makes no more sense than for a blind man to deny that there is any such thing as color just because he does not experience it.
 
Yes, and He loves our animals also. To some of us He gives a share in that love, that we might see and learn something of His love from the animals which He has given us. I am sorry if you do not have that love, but to think that it does not exist just because you do not experience it makes no more sense than for a blind man to deny that there is any such thing as color just because he does not experience it.
However, none of that is relevant. Animals do not have immortal souls and do not go to Heaven.
I always find it amazing that animal and specifically pet lovers really want their animals to go to Heaven. If anyone thinks that being in Heaven with God is incomplete because their pet dog is not there then frankly that’s a slap in the face of God and they don’t deserve to be there.
 
However, none of that is relevant. Animals do not have immortal souls and do not go to Heaven.
I always find it amazing that animal and specifically pet lovers really want their animals to go to Heaven. If anyone thinks that being in Heaven with God is incomplete because their pet dog is not there then frankly that’s a slap in the face of God and they don’t deserve to be there.
I think that you don’t get it. It is “a slap in the face of God” to say “I don’t want this gift you are giving to me. It isn’t good enough for me.” Remember that God gave all animals to Adam to care for. That was before the fall of Adam. God did not say “I have made this world, now live in it alone.”

Also remember that Jesus chose to be born in a building full of animals, rather than a house full of people. If you are, for whatever reason, unable to process fully that our love of animals is a gift from God, realize that that is your limitation, and do not try to be so unkind to those of us who appreciate this gift.

Among my friends I am often known as “the animal lady”, so I have been asked on several occasions to help talk to a child grieving the loss of a pet. I could not in good conscience at all say “Nope, your pet is not in Heaven, he isn’t anywhere. God just annihilated your pet. Forget your love, forget the gift that God gave you of this pet, forget the love that God showed you by giving you this time with your pet.” What I do tell them is that their love of their pet is a gift from God, that if they love their pet, God loves their pet even more, and will continue to love the pet and care for the pet, even in death.

I think that your idea of Heaven is way too small. It is cramped and uncomfortable to the point that it seems mean. Don’t try to cram the rest of us in that tiny space. Open your mind and your heart to the wideness of God. God has made us the sort of creatures who enjoy His gifts in many different ways- through our many senses, and our emotions, and our minds. Heaven will be bigger, wider, deeper than Earth, not less in any way.
 
I think that you don’t get it. It is “a slap in the face of God” to say “I don’t want this gift you are giving to me. It isn’t good enough for me.” Remember that God gave all animals to Adam to care for. That was before the fall of Adam. God did not say “I have made this world, now live in it alone.”

Also remember that Jesus chose to be born in a building full of animals, rather than a house full of people. If you are, for whatever reason, unable to process fully that our love of animals is a gift from God, realize that that is your limitation, and do not try to be so unkind to those of us who appreciate this gift.

Among my friends I am often known as “the animal lady”, so I have been asked on several occasions to help talk to a child grieving the loss of a pet. I could not in good conscience at all say “Nope, your pet is not in Heaven, he isn’t anywhere. God just annihilated your pet. Forget your love, forget the gift that God gave you of this pet, forget the love that God showed you by giving you this time with your pet.” What I do tell them is that their love of their pet is a gift from God, that if they love their pet, God loves their pet even more, and will continue to love the pet and care for the pet, even in death.

I think that your idea of Heaven is way too small. It is cramped and uncomfortable to the point that it seems mean. Don’t try to cram the rest of us in that tiny space. Open your mind and your heart to the wideness of God. God has made us the sort of creatures who enjoy His gifts in many different ways- through our many senses, and our emotions, and our minds. Heaven will be bigger, wider, deeper than Earth, not less in any way.
The Church teaches that only humans have a supernatural end. That means animals do not and so cannot be in Heaven (or Hell).
Church teachings have the authority of God behind them. If animals are in Heaven then it would mean the Church is wrong. Do you really think the Church teaching is wrong?
 
However, none of that is relevant. Animals do not have immortal souls and do not go to Heaven.
I always find it amazing that animal and specifically pet lovers really want their animals to go to Heaven. If anyone thinks that being in Heaven with God is incomplete because their pet dog is not there then frankly that’s a slap in the face of God and they don’t deserve to be there.
No human being can possibly KNOW God’s will. To say with absolute certainty that God does not WILL for animals to be in heaven is absurd and quite frankly, arrogant. I can find plenty of evidence in the bible to reasonably conclude there is a possiblity that animals are in heaven but I can find nothing that abosultely proves they are not. Here are just a couple of proofs that show it is reasonable to accept the possibility of animals in heaven. 1) Gen 1:20-23 God creates the animals and he “saw HOW GOOD it was”. Since God is GOOD and heaven is filled with all that is GOOD it is reasonable to think that animals are there, since they are GOOD. 2) Now go to the end of scripture in the book of Revelation. We are shown a glimpse of heaven and behold, there are animals in heaven. Even if one wants to assume they are just symbolic I find it pretty amazing that God would choose to use animals for symbols if they were unimportant to him. There are countless other scriptural proofs of the reasonableness of the belief that animals are in heaven but from the beginning (Genesis) to the end (Revelation) this can bee seen. Now, I may be wrong but I do not believe there is actually any doctrinal teaching on this subject. If I am wrong someone please correct me. If I am correct, then we are free to believe as we wish. Since there is at least some scriptual evidence to support the belief that animals go to heaven, absent doctrinal teaching to the contrary, I choose to believe they do go to heaven. You are free to believe they do not if that makes you happy. I just don’t think anyone should pretend they are God and make any statements of absolute certainy. We just can’t know until we go and see for ourselves.
 
If you believe animals are not in heaven because they are not needed, then we won’t be there either based on that logic. God is infinite and eternal and as such is in need of NOTHING, including man. We are joined with him in heaven because he WILLS it, not because he NEEDS it.
Haha that is a very good point.
The Church teaches that only humans have a supernatural end. That means animals do not and so cannot be in Heaven (or Hell).
Church teachings have the authority of God behind them. If animals are in Heaven then it would mean the Church is wrong. Do you really think the Church teaching is wrong?
Well as a Protestant heretic I naturally do think Rome is “wrong” on some counts. But in this case, the Church does not say only humans have supernatural ends, since angels obviously exist. And even if all earthly animals do not, there is no reason why God cannot reconstitute them on the Last Day when all Creation is renewed.
 
No human being can possibly KNOW God’s will. To say with absolute certainty that God does not WILL for animals to be in heaven is absurd and quite frankly, arrogant. I can find plenty of evidence in the bible to reasonably conclude there is a possiblity that animals are in heaven but I can find nothing that abosultely proves they are not. Here are just a couple of proofs that show it is reasonable to accept the possibility of animals in heaven. 1) Gen 1:20-23 God creates the animals and he “saw HOW GOOD it was”. Since God is GOOD and heaven is filled with all that is GOOD it is reasonable to think that animals are there, since they are GOOD. 2) Now go to the end of scripture in the book of Revelation. We are shown a glimpse of heaven and behold, there are animals in heaven. Even if one wants to assume they are just symbolic I find it pretty amazing that God would choose to use animals for symbols if they were unimportant to him. There are countless other scriptural proofs of the reasonableness of the belief that animals are in heaven but from the beginning (Genesis) to the end (Revelation) this can bee seen. Now, I may be wrong but I do not believe there is actually any doctrinal teaching on this subject. If I am wrong someone please correct me. If I am correct, then we are free to believe as we wish. Since there is at least some scriptual evidence to support the belief that animals go to heaven, absent doctrinal teaching to the contrary, I choose to believe they do go to heaven. You are free to believe they do not if that makes you happy. I just don’t think anyone should pretend they are God and make any statements of absolute certainy. We just can’t know until we go and see for ourselves.
So well said. Too many purport to speak for God. I too believe animals go to heaven. God made them too and God loves all his creatures.
 
I don’t know if animals go to heaven, but I HOPE SO. I miss my dog, who was the sweetest soul around.
 
I don’t know if animals go to heaven, but I HOPE SO. I miss my dog, who was the sweetest soul around.
Great quote. Very sweet, simple and to the point.
This is perhaps the best reason to believe that animals go to heaven. Because WE HOPE SO. God knows our hearts. As long as we love him above all else, (which means keeping his word) he will grants us everything we ask for. This is found in too many places in scripture to mention.
 
So well said. Too many purport to speak for God. I too believe animals go to heaven. God made them too and God loves all his creatures.
Since no one has come back from the place called “heaven” (except perhaps in their imaginations) and we have no documentation of what “heaven” involves, it seem arrogant and preposterous to exclude any part of God’s creativity from enjoying the new creation hinted at by St. Paul. Moreover, since there is no clear dividing line between Homo sapiens and the species that were our forbears, it would be incoherent and insupportable to claim that all members of “group X” go to heaven and than no member of “group Y” does.
 
Those who have followed this thread know that I have taken the position (that I believe is well supported by Catholic theology) that our pets do not go to heaven for the simple reason that they do not have an immortal soul - only man does. As mortal souls die once a mortal body dies, nothing is left of that “being” to go anywhere.

I assure you that I mean no ill will towards anyone regarding their pets, how much satisfaction their pets have given them in life, and how much they miss their departed pets.

Yet, I ask, in all seriousness, if those who believe that THEIR pets (not just animals in general) will go to heaven, would you please answer the following questions:
  1. Do you believe that heaven was closed to everyone until Christ died his redemptive death? (I will save you an explanation/answer - if you don’t, you are not Catholic).
  2. Do you believe that animals can sin?
  3. If animals cannot sin (and they obviously cannot as they do not have the ability to form the requisite intent to commit a sin), how can they be “judged” upon their death?
  4. Given the three “states” (given that Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven are not really “places” in the traditional sense) that immortal souls might encounter upon death (Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven), will the souls of any pets enter a state other than Heaven?
  5. If a pet cannot sin, and it was absolutely necessary for Christ (under God’s plan) to suffer and die a redemptive death for man’s soul to be “eligible” for purgatory/heaven, how, exactly, does Christ’s redemptive death “apply” to pets?
  6. As the goal of all men is to someday meet God in the face (that is, to experience the beatific vision), why would you EVER want to leave that state of eternal bliss so that you can go “check on” or “be with” your pet for a while?
  7. If your pet dies before you, where does the soul of your pet “reside” until you die?
  8. Finally, it is much easier for people to envision themselves being reunited with their pet dogs or cats. But where do you draw the line - pot-bellied pigs, parakeets, tarantulas, pythons, fish, hamsters, mice, guinea pigs, dolphins, killer whales (such as those who have become “attached” to their trainers at places such as Sea World), etc.? You see where this leads? Once you make an allowance for one type of pet, what is to say that no other type of animal will “accompany” you to heaven?
Note that I never said that no animals populate heaven - I spoke only in terms of specific animals belonging to people as their pets. I believe it entirely possible (everything is possible with God) that God has populated heaven with animals. But I have no idea whether animals populate heaven.

I just think that it would be interesting to hear LOGICAL and TRUTHFUL answers to the questions I posed above. Everyone has had their fun with this thread for quite a while. I hope, with these questions, to bring it to a serious side.
 
I just think that it would be interesting to hear LOGICAL and TRUTHFUL answers to the questions I posed above. Everyone has had their fun with this thread for quite a while. I hope, with these questions, to bring it to a serious side.
I await your logical and truthtful argument supporting your claim that all Homo sapiens and only Homo sapiens possess immortal souls.
 
First, I firmly believe that if Jesus Christ himself came down and told you personally that animals do NOT have immortal souls and thus do not continue to live after the death of their mortal bodies, you would argue with him and say he is wrong.

Second, I don’t see how your questions of me in any way answers the questions I posed. I surmise that answering my questions may lead one to an “unpleasant” conclusion - one that might lead one to conclude that one’s pets do not follow them into hell or purgatory or heaven.

Third, I will nevertheless answer your SOLE question using the bible as a reference:
  1. In Genesis, God specifically refers to only one aspect of creation in which an object of creation was created in God’s own image: MAN. Not plants, not animals - MAN.
Gen 1:26 And he said: Let us make man to our image and likeness: and let him have dominion over the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the air, and the beasts, and the whole earth, and every creeping creature that moveth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them.
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, saying: Increase and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it, and rule over the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the air, and all living creatures that move upon the earth.
Gen 1:29 And God said: Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed upon the earth, and all trees that have in themselves seed of their own kind, to be your meat:
Gen 1:30 And to all beasts of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to all that move upon the earth, and wherein there is life, that they may have to feed upon. And it was so done.

  1. If man and animals are alike, as you claim, in that they both have mortal bodies and both have immortal souls, why would God give man dominion over a creature that is the equal of man? Why would God permit man to kill animals to eat, if animals stood on the same “footing” as man? If man and animals are alike in that they both have bodies and both have immortal souls and both have souls who enter heaven, why is killing an animal by man not considered murder by God?
Gen 9:2 And let the fear and dread of you be upon all the beasts of the earth, and upon all the fowls of the air, and all that move upon the earth: all the fishes of the sea are delivered into your hand.
Gen 9:3 And every thing that moveth, and liveth shall be meat for you: even as the green herbs have I delivered them all to you

  1. You claim that man and animals are identical in that they have a corporeal aspect (their bodies) and an incorporeal aspect (their immortal souls). If this is so, why did God recognize the DIFFERENCE between man and animals such that he felt the need to create another creature that was equal to or “appropriate” for man?
Gen 2:20 And Adam called all the beasts by their names, and all the fowls of the air, and all the cattle of the field: but for Adam there was not found a helper like himself.
Gen 2:21 Then the Lord God cast a deep sleep upon Adam: and when he was fast asleep, he took one of his ribs, and filled up flesh for it.
Gen 2:22 And the Lord God built the rib which he took from Adam into a woman: and brought her to Adam.
Gen 2:23 And Adam said: This now is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man.

  1. Finally, I think it highly unlikely that God would permit man to treat another being that has an immortal soul such as himself, in a “lesser” manner. Our own Church teaches this in the Catechism by stating that although animals are part of God’s creation and should be respected, man has the right to not only kill them for food and clothing, but may experiment on them.
*Respect for the integrity of creation

2415 The seventh commandment enjoins respect for the integrity of creation. Animals, like plants and inanimate beings, are by nature destined for the common good of past, present, and future humanity.195 Use of the mineral, vegetable, and animal resources of the universe cannot be divorced from respect for moral imperatives. Man’s dominion over inanimate and other living beings granted by the Creator is not absolute; it is limited by concern for the quality of life of his neighbor, including generations to come; it requires a religious respect for the integrity of creation.196

2416 Animals are God’s creatures. He surrounds them with his providential care. By their mere existence they bless him and give him glory.197 Thus men owe them kindness. We should recall the gentleness with which saints like St. Francis of Assisi or St. Philip Neri treated animals.

2417 God entrusted animals to the stewardship of those whom he created in his own image.198 Hence it is legitimate to use animals for food and clothing. They may be domesticated to help man in his work and leisure. Medical and scientific experimentation on animals is a morally acceptable practice if it remains within reasonable limits and contributes to caring for or saving human lives.

2418 It is contrary to human dignity to cause animals to suffer or die needlessly. It is likewise unworthy to spend money on them that should as a priority go to the relief of human misery. One can love animals; one should not direct to them the affection due only to persons.*

I can tell you without doubt or question that no one can turn to any official dogma or doctrine of the Church that states: “animals have immortal souls” or “animals do not have immortal souls”.

I can, however, tell you that from a rational and logical standpoint, I seriously doubt that God would give man so much “dominion” over animals, as amply described above, if such creatures possessed an immortal soul like man.

Now, would you please answer MY questions?
 
P.S. - St. Thomas Aquinas, acknowledged as probably the greatest Catholic theologian and Doctor of the Church of all time, taught that animal “souls” could not by their nature survive death. Unlike human souls, he said, they are perishable when separated from their proper bodies.

Now if you want to put your “knowledge” on the level of someone such as Aquinas, be my guest. As for me, I will side with Aquinas any time . . .
 
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