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I guess the title of this thread is self explanatory lol
Depends on which Anglicans and what you mean by “venerate.” Anglican calendars include saint celebrations and Anglican churches are frequently named after saints (though at least in the U.S., I note the popularity of churches named after Christ or the Incarnation or the Trinity). Only “Anglo-Catholics” would ask saints to pray for them or pay honor to images/pictures of saints. These practices appear to be forbidden in the 39 Articles, though some Anglo-Catholics get around the language by saying that they don’t “invoke” saints but merely ask for their intercession, and more of them simply ignore the Articles (again, at least in the U.S. the Articles aren’t regarded as being very authoritative, in my experience).I guess the title of this thread is self explanatory lol
Perfect opening line.Depends on which Anglicans and what you mean by “venerate.” Anglican calendars include saint celebrations and Anglican churches are frequently named after saints (though at least in the U.S., I note the popularity of churches named after Christ or the Incarnation or the Trinity). Only “Anglo-Catholics” would ask saints to pray for them or pay honor to images/pictures of saints. These practices appear to be forbidden in the 39 Articles, though some Anglo-Catholics get around the language by saying that they don’t “invoke” saints but merely ask for their intercession, and more of them simply ignore the Articles (again, at least in the U.S. the Articles aren’t regarded as being very authoritative, in my experience).
So the answer would be: a minority of Anglicans practice essentially the same forms of saint veneration as Catholics, while the majority would honor saints by celebrating their lives and praying for the grace to follow their example. Anglicans do pretty uniformly talk about and honor saints in ways that most Protestants find strange or uncomfortable, even if they don’t go “all the way.”
Edwin
In the Church of England, although there are Christ Churches and Holy Trinitys and Holy Redeemers and such, most churches are dedicated to and named for saints.Depends on which Anglicans and what you mean by “venerate.” Anglican calendars include saint celebrations and Anglican churches are frequently named after saints (though at least in the U.S., I note the popularity of churches named after Christ or the Incarnation or the Trinity). Only “Anglo-Catholics” would ask saints to pray for them or pay honor to images/pictures of saints. These practices appear to be forbidden in the 39 Articles, though some Anglo-Catholics get around the language by saying that they don’t “invoke” saints but merely ask for their intercession, and more of them simply ignore the Articles (again, at least in the U.S. the Articles aren’t regarded as being very authoritative, in my experience).
So the answer would be: a minority of Anglicans practice essentially the same forms of saint veneration as Catholics, while the majority would honor saints by celebrating their lives and praying for the grace to follow their example. Anglicans do pretty uniformly talk about and honor saints in ways that most Protestants find strange or uncomfortable, even if they don’t go “all the way.”
Edwin
And all of these saints just happen to be Catholic.In the Church of England, although there are Christ Churches and Holy Trinitys and Holy Redeemers and such, most churches are dedicated to and named for saints.
Yes, I believe St Mary and St Michael and St John the Baptist, as well as St Andrew and St Mark, for instance, have made it very clear they are not, say, Orthodox.And all of these saints just happen to be Catholic.![]()
Since there was no Orthodox Church at the time they lived I think it is safe to say that they were Catholic and I believe that it was the Catholic Church that canonized them, yes? I didn’t mean to make a big deal of this. I have always just found it a little strange that the Episcopal Church down the road is named “St. Patrick’s”. If they are to follow these saints as examples it just seems to me that they should follow the religion espoused by these saints. But that’s just me.Yes, I believe St Mary and St Michael and St John the Baptist, as well as St Andrew and St Mark, for instance, have made it very clear they are not, say, Orthodox.
Good summary that a Lutheran could entirely agree with.Depends on which Anglicans and what you mean by “venerate.” Anglican calendars include saint celebrations and Anglican churches are frequently named after saints (though at least in the U.S., I note the popularity of churches named after Christ or the Incarnation or the Trinity). Only “Anglo-Catholics” would ask saints to pray for them or pay honor to images/pictures of saints. These practices appear to be forbidden in the 39 Articles, though some Anglo-Catholics get around the language by saying that they don’t “invoke” saints but merely ask for their intercession, and more of them simply ignore the Articles (again, at least in the U.S. the Articles aren’t regarded as being very authoritative, in my experience).
So the answer would be: a minority of Anglicans practice essentially the same forms of saint veneration as Catholics, while the majority would honor saints by celebrating their lives and praying for the grace to follow their example. Anglicans do pretty uniformly talk about and honor saints in ways that most Protestants find strange or uncomfortable, even if they don’t go “all the way.”
Edwin
It depends, of course, on how you define “Catholic.” Anglicans claim to be in continuity with the historic Catholic Church. I have problems with that claim, which is why I have problems with remaining Anglicanism, but it is not something that is simply historically self-evident. One has to engage in theological analysis and make faith decisions to reach a conclusion as to what is and is not Catholic.And all of these saints just happen to be Catholic.![]()
If you understand nothing else about Anglicans, understand that they claim to do just that. You don’t have to agree with the claim. But recognize that they make it.Since there was no Orthodox Church at the time they lived I think it is safe to say that they were Catholic and I believe that it was the Catholic Church that canonized them, yes? I didn’t mean to make a big deal of this. I have always just found it a little strange that the Episcopal Church down the road is named “St. Patrick’s”. If they are to follow these saints as examples it just seems to me that they should follow the religion espoused by these saints.
Do any of you honor St. Thomas More? lol just kidding!in my middle of the road Episcopal Parish ( named after St. John) we believe in the Communion of Saints-I think few of us pary to a Saint for intervention with CHrist-
but we respect and honor the Saints-
yes we have a few Saints that are not in the RC roll call-Archbishop Cranmer and the Martyrs of Uganda for example-
it is what it is
Very true.It depends, of course, on how you define “Catholic.” Anglicans claim to be in continuity with the historic Catholic Church. I have problems with that claim, which is why I have problems with remaining Anglicanism, but it is not something that is simply historically self-evident. One has to engage in theological analysis and make faith decisions to reach a conclusion as to what is and is not Catholic.
Ediwn
If you understand nothing else about Anglicans, understand that they claim to do just that. You don’t have to agree with the claim. But recognize that they make it.
Of course, a Northern Irish Baptist friend of mine claimed that St. Patrick was a “strong evangelllical”. . . . .
Yes, actually. The Church of England commemorates Thomas More and John Fisher, (Bishop of Rochester) on 6th July in its Kalendar.Do any of you honor St. Thomas More? lol just kidding!![]()
WOW!Yes, actually. The Church of England commemorates Thomas More and John Fisher, (Bishop of Rochester) on 6th July in its Kalendar.
Lutherans do celebrate the birth of Martin Luther and also honor the Augsburg Confession as commemorations [not quite holy days]. The feast of the Reformation is celebrated on the Eve of All Saints day. There are other Lutherans honored in the Church calendar.WOW!
Wouldn’t that be like us giving Martin Luther a feast day? lol
So happy I don’t belong to a church that has a feast day for the Reformation!Lutherans do celebrate the birth of Martin Luther and also honor the Augsburg Confession as commemorations [not quite holy days]. The feast of the Reformation is celebrated on the Eve of All Saints day. There are other Lutherans honored in the Church calendar.