Do animals have souls?

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As Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 13:12: “Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know full, even as I am fully known.” This text means what we don’t know now, we will know in the future; and what we don’t understand now, we will understand in the future. And in the end we will not be disappointed.
. . . So the key is not to seek a “definitive answer,” because there is none. The key is this: On this particular issue, where the Bible is silent, we have the right to choose the answer that seems true to us – that comforts and consoles us - that’s based on our best efforts to reason and understand God and God’s love for all creation.
In the future when we enter heavens gates, God will reveal all truth.
As for me, I believe pets do go to heaven, and I believe I will see my dog Marty again.
Thanks be to God for our pets, and for the joy and love they bring to our lives!
The bolding & underlining is mine.
They identify statements that are for me the essence of belief: Faith that in the end we will not be disappointed,
Individual effort to reason & understand God,
God loves ALL His Creation

Go with Love, Go with God
 
St Francis preached to animals. Whether they understood him or not, didn’t matter. He probably thought animals have souls too. Whether he was right or not, doesn’t matter. What matters is that St Francis valued their existence and their right to live.

As for me, the comforting thought that my two dogs will go to their own doggie heaven when they die is enough for me. 🙂
 
God made everything! Right? And, He gave Man dominion over the animals and the oceans and everything else. He did warn us of the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, and look where THAT’s gotten us!

But animals? They have Spirit, not a Soul. The Soul is the difference between Man and animal. Plants, bacteria, viruses, paramecium, all are alive but don’t have Spirits.

God made Man in His own image. But what is the image of God? Who can say? Just because we know what Man looks like today, and we believe that man has evolved through some sorts of differences in appearances (not to mention losing their tails and almost their appendices), how can we assume without any other proof that God looks the Man of today? Maybe God’s image was spiritual, like a little cloud? Like a bundle of energy, with protons, electrons, neutrons? When we die, our bodies decay into nothing, eventually, regardless of how long it takes, doesn’t it?

So animals, with spirit, can feel some emotions - emotional pain, happiness, embarassment, sadness. But when they die, do their spirits go anywhere? Maybe so, maybe not.

And maybe animals assume some of the spirit of our own animalness… that, until they experience a relationship with us, they aren’t fully developed spiritually. They need us to be complete?

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God made everything! Right? And, He gave Man dominion over the animals and the oceans and everything else. He did warn us of the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, and look where THAT’s gotten us!
Dear Whomper,
Yes, the word given is dominion, but the meaning implicit, is custody.
We are clearly intended to take care of what we have been entrusted with.
But animals? They have Spirit, not a Soul. The Soul is the difference between Man and animal. Plants, bacteria, viruses, paramecium, all are alive but don’t have Spirits.
Actually, Whomper, you have taken the diametrically opposite view to the Catholic Church, as I understand it.
Mother Church allows that all living beings have a soul, but only humans have an immortal soul.
There is though, as I understand it, somewhat of a ‘not proven’ as to whether the immortal soul is developed from the animal soul at some period after conception, some thought, at the quickening, or whether it was replaced. The question, as I understand it is still open.
‘Spirit’ comes from a Hebrew usage, meaning ‘breath’, hence, life, and whether this is the same as soul, is also subject to debate.
God made Man in His own image. But what is the image of God? Who can say? Just because we know what Man looks like today, and we believe that man has evolved through some sorts of differences in appearances (not to mention losing their tails and almost their appendices), how can we assume without any other proof that God looks the Man of today? Maybe God’s image was spiritual, like a little cloud? Like a bundle of energy, with protons, electrons, neutrons? When we die, our bodies decay into nothing, eventually, regardless of how long it takes, doesn’t it?
G_d is ‘Spirit’, or ‘Life’.
It is in this essence that Man, the specie, which includes man and woman, is formed in the image of G_d.
The physical form is irrelevant.
A Bible in printed format is still the same image as one in the form of a PDF file.
One exists as black pigments on a white cellulose substrate, and the other, as, shall we say, varying sized pits on a mirrored surface of a plastic disc.
As I said, the actual physical format is irrelevant.
So animals, with spirit, can feel some emotions - emotional pain, happiness, embarassment, sadness. But when they die, do their spirits go anywhere? Maybe so, maybe not.
And maybe animals assume some of the spirit of our own animalness… that, until they experience a relationship with us, they aren’t fully developed spiritually. They need us to be complete?
We at our peril, forget our own animalness.
The line that divides us from the lesser creation is not as sharp as we in our hubris assume.
Rudyard Kipling assessed that the dividing line between human and dog was crossed by the human at the age of about three years.
Maybe he had very intelligent dogs, or maybe he was associated with particularly stupid humans. His assessment was based of dogs’ understanding of human language, and their ability to work out logical problems. Just watch a shepherd and his dog(s). The dog knows what to do, even when he loses contact temporarily with the shepherd.

Yes, Kipling had this other point you made, too. Whereas we seek G_d directly, our dogs seek G_d through us.
We are the only gods they know.
That is a terrible responsibility.
 
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