Do any Catholic scholars believe in the trinity or the incarnation?

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i have recently been reading some catholic scholars who deny the trinity. There seems to be quite a few who do. Who are some contemporary Catholic scholars who accept it? Most of the scholars who promote the trinity are Evangelical not Catholic
 
I’m not sure where you’re getting this from, especially that last bit about Evangelicals, but the Trinity and the Incarnation are the central tenets of the Catholic faith. It’s why the Niceno-Constantipolitan Creed is recited every Sunday and Solemnity–it’s a reminder to us of the basis of our faith. Without faith in the Trinity and Incarnation, then there is absolutely nothing else coherent about the Catholic faith. Were a Catholic theologian to not believe in the Trinity or the Incarnation, it would be very difficult to continue calling his thought Catholic in any sort of meaningful, coherent way.

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i have recently been reading some catholic scholars who deny the trinity. There seems to be quite a few who do. Who are some contemporary Catholic scholars who accept it? Most of the scholars who promote the trinity are Evangelical not Catholic
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Names? Specifics Examples? “Some” is not a springboard for discussion.
 
Any “Catholic” scholar who denies the Holy Trinity and the Incarnation is a heretic… It’s as simple as that. These two Truths of our Faith is not up for grabs.

God bless,

Rony
 
If they deny the Trinity they’re not Catholic. Where did you read this?
 
Hmmmmm…this seems like bait folks lol…Dont feed the trolls. lol
 
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Hmmmmm…this seems like bait folks lol…Dont feed the trolls. lol
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I think so. To say that most Catholic scholars deny the Trinity and the Incarnation is a huge leap. These are organically Catholic doctrines.

If any other Church teaches the truth of the Trinity or the Incarnation, they teach Catholic truth. These truths were revealed first to the leader’s of the Catholic Church, the Apostles, and were then taught to other men through the Apostles and their successors, the Bishops. The theology of the Incarnation and the Trinity would not exist were it not for the Catholic Church.

These are organic and authentic Catholic truths.

-Tim-
 
The Church has taught about the trinity for two thousand years. Only heretics deny the great truth of the Blesses Trinity.
 
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i have recently been reading some catholic scholars who deny the trinity. There seems to be quite a few who do. Who are some contemporary Catholic scholars who accept it? Most of the scholars who promote the trinity are Evangelical not Catholic
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Forgive me if this sounds too simple, but it is virtually impossible for a scholar to be Catholic AND to deny the Trinity. They may say they are Catholic, or may think they are Catholic, but the Trinity is a central core tenant of the Catholic Faith. To deny the trinity is to deny the faith outright.

I would be interested to know of a single self-identified Catholic scholar who denies the Trinity. Do you have any names?
 
“Catholic Scholar” and “Denies the Trinity” is an Oximoron.

Mutually exclusive cannot be one AND the other.

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i have recently been reading some catholic scholars who deny the trinity. There seems to be quite a few who do. Who are some contemporary Catholic scholars who accept it? Most of the scholars who promote the trinity are Evangelical not Catholic
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Pope Benedict
Pope Francis (maybe not a scholar)
Dr. Scott Hahn
Dr. Peter Kreeft
Dr. Michael Barber
the guys at Catholic Answers
Dr. William Marshner
etc.
etc.
etc.
 
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i have recently been reading some catholic scholars who deny the trinity. There seems to be quite a few who do. Who are some contemporary Catholic scholars who accept it? Most of the scholars who promote the trinity are Evangelical not Catholic
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ENCYCLICAL
HUMANI GENERIS
OF THE HOLY FATHER
PIUS XII
Venerable Brethren,
Greetings and Apostolic Benediction

…
  1. There is also a certain historicism, which attributing value only to the events of man’s life, overthrows the foundation of all truth and absolute law, both on the level of philosophical speculations and especially to Christian dogmas.
  2. In all this confusion of opinion it is some consolation to Us to see former adherents of rationalism today frequently desiring to return to the fountain of divinely communicated truth, and to acknowledge and profess the word of God as contained in Sacred Scripture as the foundation of religious teaching. But at the same time it is a matter of regret that not a few of these, the more firmly they accept the word of God, so much the more do they diminish the value of human reason, and the more they exalt the authority of God the Revealer, the more severely do they spurn the teaching office of the Church, which has been instituted by Christ, Our Lord, to preserve and interpret divine revelation. This attitude is not only plainly at variance with Holy Scripture, but is shown to be false by experience also. For often those who disagree with the true Church complain openly of their disagreement in matters of dogma and thus unwillingly bear witness to the necessity of a living Teaching Authority.
  3. Now Catholic theologians and philosophers, whose grave duty it is to defend natural and supernatural truth and instill it in the hearts of men, cannot afford to ignore or neglect these more or less erroneous opinions. Rather they must come to understand these same theories well, both because diseases are not properly treated unless they are rightly diagnosed, and because sometimes even in these false theories a certain amount of truth is contained, and, finally, because these theories provoke more subtle discussion and evaluation of philosophical and theological truths.
  4. If philosophers and theologians strive only to derive such profit from the careful examination of these doctrines, there would be no reason for any intervention by the Teaching Authority of the Church. However, although We know that Catholic teachers generally avoid these errors, it is apparent, however, that some today, as in apostolic times, desirous of novelty, and fearing to be considered ignorant of recent scientific findings, try to withdraw themselves from the sacred Teaching Authority and are accordingly in danger of gradually departing from revealed truth and of drawing others along with them into error.
  5. Another danger is perceived which is all the more serious because it is more concealed beneath the mask of virtue. There are many who, deploring disagreement among men and intellectual confusion, through an imprudent zeal for souls, are urged by a great and ardent desire to do away with the barrier that divides good and honest men; these advocate an “eirenism” according to which, by setting aside the questions which divide men, they aim not only at joining forces to repel the attacks of atheism, but also at reconciling things opposed to one another in the field of dogma. And as in former times some questioned whether the traditional apologetics of the Church did not constitute an obstacle rather than a help to the winning of souls for Christ, so today some are presumptive enough to question seriously whether theology and theological methods, such as with the approval of ecclesiastical authority are found in our schools, should not only be perfected, but also completely reformed, in order to promote the more efficacious propagation of the kingdom of Christ everywhere throughout the world among men of every culture and religious opinion.
  6. Now if these only aimed at adapting ecclesiastical teaching and methods to modern conditions and requirements, through the introduction of some new explanations, there would be scarcely any reason for alarm. But some through enthusiasm for an imprudent “eirenism” seem to consider as an obstacle to the restoration of fraternal union, things founded on the laws and principles given by Christ and likewise on institutions founded by Him, or which are the defense and support of the integrity of the faith, and the removal of which would bring about the union of all, but only to their destruction.
  7. These new opinions, whether they originate from a reprehensible desire of novelty or from a laudable motive, are not always advanced in the same degree, with equal clarity nor in the same terms, nor always with unanimous agreement of their authors. Theories that today are put forward rather covertly by some, not without cautions and distinctions, tomorrow are openly and without moderation proclaimed by others more audacious, causing scandal to many, especially among the young clergy and to the detriment of ecclesiastical authority. Though they are usually more cautious in their published works, they express themselves more openly in their writings intended for private circulation and in conferences and lectures. Moreover, these opinions are disseminated not only among members of the clergy and in seminaries and religious institutions, but also among the laity, and especially among those who are engaged in teaching youth.
The whole thing is worth reading.
vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xii/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_12081950_humani-generis_en.html

Linus2nd
 
I notice the OP has not come back with any of his/her sources. Maybe they were neither Catholic nor scholars!

As for the Trinity, I would read the Gospel of John, and Luke covers the incarnation pretty well I think!
 
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