Do any Eastern Catholic Churches follow the Eastern Orthodox calendar?

[lak611]

Are there any Eastern Catholic Churches that celebrate Christmas on January 7 and Easter on the same date as the Eastern Orthodox Churches?

 

[Deacon_Lance]

The majority of Eastern Catholics in their countries of origin follow the Julian Calendar and Orthodox Pascha. It is only in the diaspora the the Gregorian Calenda and Roman Pascha have been adopted and there are still some holdouts among the Ukrainians.

Fr. Deacon Lance

 

[Thepeug]

SS Volodymyr & Olha in Chicago uses the Julian Calender year-round, and Holy Resurrection (Romanian Catholic) Monastery in Newberry Springs, CA follows the Orthodox Paschalion.

God bless,

Chris

 

[Patchunky]

The majority of Eastern Catholics in their countries of origin follow the Julian Calendar and Orthodox Pascha. It is only in the diaspora the the Gregorian Calenda and Roman Pascha have been adopted and there are still some holdouts among the Ukrainians.

Fr. Deacon Lance

Byzantine Ruthenian Rite Catholics in Slovakia, Hungary and Croatia follow the Gregorian calendar.

 

[lak611]

Thank you, all, for answering my question.

 

[bpbasilphx]

Are there any Eastern Catholic Churches that celebrate Christmas on January 7

**Please notice that Christmas is not and never had been on January 7.

It has ALWAYS been on 25 December.

The question is which day is 25 December. The day the Gregorian calendar calls 25 December is called 12 December on the Julian.**

 

[lak611]

Are there any Eastern Catholic Churches that celebrate Christmas on January 7

**Please notice that Christmas is not and never had been on January 7.

It has ALWAYS been on 25 December.

The question is which day is 25 December. The day the Gregorian calendar calls 25 December is called 12 December on the Julian.**

Ok, that makes sense. Although, those who follow the Julian calendar for religion would still have to follow the Gregorian calendar for everything else, just like those who follow the Hebrew calendar for religion.

 

[peso73]

exactly…The only advantages I can see for sticking to the Julian calender would be to take advantage of the after Christmas sales and perhaps escape some of the commercialism forced at us…I think sticking to the Julian calender as some kind of statement is silly, it’s not like Julius Ceasar was some great saint of the early church or something, and although I can see that the Gregorian calender is from a RCC source, but c’mon, get over it, it’s like daylight savings time, I hate it, but if I went to the trouble to live my spiritual life an hour before or after everyone else, it would just be a waste of energy…it seems like it would be to the Orthodox advantage to agree on a calender one way or the other, for unity at least.

 

[Alexius]

My father’s secretary years ago was Ukrainian Catholic and she followed the Old Calendar…

Prayers and petitions,
Alexius

 

[Joe_Kelley]

exactly…The only advantages I can see for sticking to the Julian calender would be to take advantage of the after Christmas sales and perhaps escape some of the commercialism forced at us… .

One can get the same advantages by celebrating gift giving on Epiphany in honor of the Magi who brought their gifts that day.

My wife is a choir director; so Christmas was not a day for great family celebration. We went for the Twelve Days of Christmas. The kids got one good present on Christmas Day. Presents on the following days ranged down to nominal at times. Then a special present on Epiphany.

 

[kitkatty]

That idea of gift giving through the twelve days sounds like a nice Christmas tradition for a family, helps to show the kids Christmas is a season, not just a day.

 

[Formosus]

I can see the advantages of having the entire Church return to the Julian just to avoid the commircialism behind holidays actually .

 

[peso73]

…or, I forgot to mention what someone else just pointed out about the Epiphany, in hispanic cultures traditionally the Dia de los Reyes Magos, or 3 Kings day is the big present day, I tried to convince the family to go back to this, but to no avail.

 

[bpbasilphx]

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I can see the advantages of having the entire Church return to the Julian just to avoid the commircialism behind holidays actually .**

But then the Julian days would simply get commercialized.

 

[lak611]

**
I can see the advantages of having the entire Church return to the Julian just to avoid the commircialism behind holidays actually .**

But then the Julian days would simply get commercialized.

I doubt if the government would change their calendar. There would be too much red tape involved for them to change which Dec. 25 they were going to follow. Secular Christmas holiday would probably stay as it is now.

 

[Patchunky]

I can see the advantages of having the entire Church return to the Julian just to avoid the commircialism behind holidays actually .

It’s more a cultural thing than a commercial thing.

Some of my best friends are Serbian and they celebrate on January 7th. They tell of being little kids in elementary school and going back after the Christmas break to being teased by the other kids because they celebrated on January 7th. The other kids told that Santa Claus didn’t bring them anything because Santa Claus didn’t like the Serbian children because they celebrated on January 7th and not on December 25th.

My friends now give their children presents on December 25th from Santa Claus but on January 7th, the Christ Child brings that one extra special present that they REALLY wanted.

Sounds like a good idea to me…

 

[Edmac]

I am told that in the USA, not only are some Ukrainian-Catholic
parishes on the Gregorian Calendar while others are on the
Julian Calendar, but that there are even parishes where
one group of parishioners are on one calendar while another
group is on the Julian. Pity the poor priests! They have to celebrate everything twice and Byzantine services could not be called brief.

 

[Dan-Man916]

SS Volodymyr & Olha in Chicago uses the Julian Calender year-round, and Holy Resurrection (Romanian Catholic) Monastery in Newberry Springs, CA follows the Orthodox Paschalion.

God bless,

Chris

Isn’t St. Volodymyr a Church that broke communion with St. Nicholas, and is now Eastern Orthodox?

Just curious as I have tried to go there at lunch time, but the doors are locked, so could not go in to pray.
I work, not very far from there.

 

[Antonin]

It is in the news, every year, about how Christmas is now celebrated on January 7th in Russia. The Russian Orthodox Outside Russia and the Serbian Orthodox Church in the United States celebrate their Christmas on January 7th, as well. There are a number of different reasons for this. One reason is because the calender went from Julian to Gregorian after the Russian Revolution. The Church kept the Julian calendar to commemorate the huge number of people who suffered horrible religious persecution by the Bolshevik government. (I don’t know the exact number of Christians who were murdered by the Bolsheviks, in the Soviet Union, but it was a huge number. Some of my close relatives were among those persecuted.) The press in this country wouldn’t report on what was happening there at the time, so many people just did not have knowledge of it.
Another reason that is given by church officials for continuing to celebrate Christmas on January 7th, rather than on December 25th, is that by celebrating Christmas on this date, a lot of the Bacchanalia is taken out of the holiday, and its heathen origins. This way, instead of partying and Christmas shopping, the practitioners of the faith can concentrate on the birth of Christ. I realize that I"ll probably get some angry responses from some of you for this posting, but I’m just telling you what I know, that’s all.

 

[Hesychios]

Hi Dan,

Isn’t St. Volodymyr a Church that broke communion with St. Nicholas, and is now Eastern Orthodox?

No.

They broke with the cathedral parish of St. Nicholas over the calendar. But they are not Orthodox.

Just curious as I have tried to go there at lunch time, but the doors are locked, so could not go in to pray.
I work, not very far from there.

Very nice piece of architecture.

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