Do any Nuns or Sisters still wear a cornette?

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Amen!

Modesty of the eyes…

Discipline and work and care…

So many benefits… 😃
For over 400 years the Daughters of Charity wore the cornette. Don’t tell me it made any more sense for 300 of those years than it would in 2010. I’m sure was it was just as tricky clearing doorways in 1710, 1810, 1910 as it would be today in 2010.

Yes, it would be time consuming to starch those bonnets and cornetts every week, but the positives outweigh the negatives.

It is a clear sign that they are a religious of the Roman Catholic Church. They stand for Jesus Christ and are committed to doing His work. The visual impact that this particular habit had on people makes a very compelling case for its revival.

My advice to the original poster, if you have a real conviction about entering religious life and wearing the cornette, found a reformed branch of the Daughters of Charity or begin your own congregation. Find a group of like minded women, dedicated to doing the Lord’s work and move in together and just start doing it. That is how these orders began in the first place. It doesn’t take money, but it does take conviction that this is what God is calling you to do.
 
I strongly feel that religious should wear their habits. Maybe I’ve just seen “The Flying Nun” too many times, but I still think the cornette looks ridiculous.
 
First of all, one cannot found a branch of the Daughters of Charity without the expressed permission of the Superior General of the Vincentians. The Daughters are under his jurisdiction. Therefore, no bishop can authorize it. There are other congregations knowns as the Sisters of Charity. These are not part of the Vincentian family.

Second, to found a community to bring back the cornette will not pass mustard with any bishop, and the Sacred Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life.

To found a new community in response to the promptings of the Holy Spirit, is quite another story. That is always praiseworthy.


  1. *]To do so one must meet certain criteria.

    *]Meet the approval of a diocesan bishop

    *]Provide a stable life for the members

    *]Have financial resources

    *]Provide a service that does not exist in the local Church, but is needed

    *]Follow an ordered way of life approved by the local bishop

    *]Comply with the requirements established in Perfectae Caritatis, Vita Consacrata and Canon Law

    Have an idenfiable habit that will not be confused with that of an existing reigious family, unless you are part of that family, for example, the Dominican Sisters of Mary are part of the Dominican Family. They can wear the Dominican habit. A new congregation named the Sisters of Charity may not wear the habit of the Daughters, because it’s not part of the Vincentian family. If it applies to the Vincentian family, then it’s up to the Vincentian Superior General to approve the habit.

    Aside from the appearance of the cornette, which was unique, it was very difficult to maintain and the entire habit was very expensive to produce. One of the reasons why Pope John XXIII, Paul VI and John Paul II asked religious to change habits was to replace them with habits that met three criteria: practical, modest, and suitable for the work of the community. The old DC habit is not something that you can throw in the washer and dryer and then slip into. There is nothing practical about it. Given the work that the sisters do it may not even be safe; but I’ll reserve judgment, because I’m not a Daughter.

    It is unclea who introduced the cornette to the DC. We know that it was not St. Vincent, St. Louise or St. Elizabeth Ann Seton, the three founders.

    This was the habit that Louise and her sisters wore. One can view her body in this garb.

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    It consisted of a white work veil with a black cloak worn outdoors. It is believed that at some point, the white work veil was starched and folded to keep it out of the way when doing nursing. I’m not sure who started this. Someone else may know this.

    We do know that the spirit of St. Vincent is to serve the poor, sick and the most abandoned members of society. This spirit is reflected in Mother Teresa’s Missionaries of Charity and the many congregations that are known as Sisters of Charity. St. Bernadette was also a Sister of Charity, but her community was not Vincentian. So they did not wear the Vincentian habit. St. Elizabeth Ann Seton did not adopt this habit or any habit, because the statutes of St. Vincent do not require it. The Dominican Sisters of the Presentation wore a cornette with the Dominican habit, but were told to change the cornette for the traditional black Dominican veil, because it was not part of the Dominican tradition.

    Let us be careful in encouraging people to start new religious communities. We have to make sure that we point them in the right direction. The Daughters of Charity have never considered themselves a religious community, nor do they have that canonical status. As I posted earlier, they are neither an order nor a congregation. They are a society. This is why they wore secular dress for several hundred years.

    It is inaccurate to say that they wore this particular habit universally. They did not. It depended on the province to which they belonged and on the foundation. Mother Seton’s sisters were also part of the Vincentian family and never wore it. However, at some point, probably before her death, they adopted the widows cap and black shoulder cape worn by Italian women, which was what Elizabeth wore. She wore this because he husband died in Leghorn, Italy. She came back from Italy wearing the garb of an Italian widow and never changed it.

    Fraternally,

    Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
This may be off-topic, but are religious habits and like items of clothing typically custom-made? I know that there are companies that make the more common types of cassocks, but particular habits would seem to be in relatively low demand.
 
This may be off-topic, but are religious habits and like items of clothing typically custom-made? I know that there are companies that make the more common types of cassocks, but particular habits would seem to be in relatively low demand.
In many orders the sisters had to bring their own fabric (usually black serge) with them when they entered the convent and they would make their own habit according to the pattern of that particular order’s habit. That was at a time when most girls knew how to sew. I don’t know what the orders do today. I think orders that still wear a full habit, usually have a number of sisters making them and they receive them at the time of profession. They are almost always made by the order and not purchased ready-made.
 
When it comes to manufacturing the habit, every community uses whatever resources are available. In my community, we buy them from a company that makes habits and vestments. A typical habit costs about $250.00 per tunic. Those habits that require a scapular are more expensive. We wear a rabatta under our tunic, which is a collar of the same color and fabric. That costs an additional $25.00. The chord is purchased from a hardware store. The rosary is made by Benedictine nuns, costing about $75.00 each. To save money, we wash them once a month. This protects them from wear and tear. Some communities have a work habit and a dress habit. They trade off on them. Other communities have a habit for wearing and one for washing.

The other thing that happened with many of the old habits worn by women was that there was an unwriten law in the Church. Men were allowed to take off the habit when they were home. We put them on again for prayer or ministry. Women had to wear it from morning to night. They couldn’t even take off the veil. That’s why so many went from something that was simpler. The veils that weer designed in the 1970s are just a cap with a veil pinned to it. I call them “slip-on veils”. Many sisters take them off when necessary. Even the sair worn by the Missionaries of charity is very practical. There is no starch involved. It’s just a whit tunic with a long flat sheet that wraps around from the head to the waist. Four pins and it’s off. It does not have layers of skirts.

In some cummunities there are people who know how to sew. That brings down the price. The community still buys the materials. Serge is no longer worn, because it is not wash’n’wear. You have to iron it. Today’s habits are some kind of synthetic blend. Wash it, dry it and hang it up.

Starching is no longer done. Plastic has replaced thos pieces that were once starched. It’s easier to clean and cheaper to maintain. You can just wipe it clean.

The habits are also made to fit the climate in which it is worn. For example, I’m in Florida. We wear a very light weave. The Franciscans in the colder climates wear a heavy wool-polyester blend.

I recently read something that Mother Teresa wrote on the subject of the habit. Her bishop asked her about it and she resonded that Jesus had appeared to her and told her that he did not want European looking nuns. He wanted Indian nuns, even if they came from all over. Therefore, they were not to dress in a habit. Of course, the sari became a habit, because they all wear it. At first, no one recognized it as such, until they saw many of them together. When they first went outside of India, no one knew that they were religious. When she founded the male Missionaries of Charity, once again she asked Jesus for a habit for the brothers. He told her “no”. He wanted the brothers to look like secular Indian men. They do not wear a habit nor are they allowed to wear a Roman collar. They wea a white shirt and khaki pants and sandals.

A habit is never supposed to be a penance. It is a symbol. Neither the Church nor the founders ever intended to tortue their sons and daughters. It is one thing to graciously accept the difficulties that God send and cannot be avoided. It is quite another thing to set yourself up unnecessarily. Life has enough situations to help us practice patience. Trust me! 😃

Fratenally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
In many orders the sisters had to bring their own fabric (usually black serge) with them when they entered the convent and they would make their own habit according to the pattern of that particular order’s habit. That was at a time when most girls knew how to sew. I don’t know what the orders do today. I think orders that still wear a full habit, usually have a number of sisters making them and they receive them at the time of profession. They are almost always made by the order and not purchased ready-made.
Interesting; I appreciate the information.
 
When it comes to manufacturing the habit, every community uses whatever resources are available. In my community, we buy them from a company that makes habits and vestments. A typical habit costs about $250.00 per tunic. Those habits that require a scapular are more expensive. We wear a rabatta under our tunic, which is a collar of the same color and fabric. That costs an additional $25.00. The chord is purchased from a hardware store. The rosary is made by Benedictine nuns, costing about $75.00 each. To save money, we wash them once a month. This protects them from wear and tear. Some communities have a work habit and a dress habit. They trade off on them. Other communities have a habit for wearing and one for washing.

The other thing that happened with many of the old habits worn by women was that there was an unwriten law in the Church. Men were allowed to take off the habit when they were home. We put them on again for prayer or ministry. Women had to wear it from morning to night. They couldn’t even take off the veil. That’s why so many went from something that was simpler. The veils that weer designed in the 1970s are just a cap with a veil pinned to it. I call them “slip-on veils”. Many sisters take them off when necessary. Even the sair worn by the Missionaries of charity is very practical. There is no starch involved. It’s just a whit tunic with a long flat sheet that wraps around from the head to the waist. Four pins and it’s off. It does not have layers of skirts.

In some cummunities there are people who know how to sew. That brings down the price. The community still buys the materials. Serge is no longer worn, because it is not wash’n’wear. You have to iron it. Today’s habits are some kind of synthetic blend. Wash it, dry it and hang it up.

Starching is no longer done. Plastic has replaced thos pieces that were once starched. It’s easier to clean and cheaper to maintain. You can just wipe it clean.

The habits are also made to fit the climate in which it is worn. For example, I’m in Florida. We wear a very light weave. The Franciscans in the colder climates wear a heavy wool-polyester blend.

I recently read something that Mother Teresa wrote on the subject of the habit. Her bishop asked her about it and she resonded that Jesus had appeared to her and told her that he did not want European looking nuns. He wanted Indian nuns, even if they came from all over. Therefore, they were not to dress in a habit. Of course, the sari became a habit, because they all wear it. At first, no one recognized it as such, until they saw many of them together. When they first went outside of India, no one knew that they were religious. When she founded the male Missionaries of Charity, once again she asked Jesus for a habit for the brothers. He told her “no”. He wanted the brothers to look like secular Indian men. They do not wear a habit nor are they allowed to wear a Roman collar. They wea a white shirt and khaki pants and sandals.

A habit is never supposed to be a penance. It is a symbol. Neither the Church nor the founders ever intended to tortue their sons and daughters. It is one thing to graciously accept the difficulties that God send and cannot be avoided. It is quite another thing to set yourself up unnecessarily. Life has enough situations to help us practice patience. Trust me! 😃

Fratenally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
Thank you, Brother.
 
Thanks for all the interesting information.There were a few communities that wore the cornette besides the Daughters of Charity, but as you mentioned it was a pain to take care of and a hazard.I belong to Gemma’s Religious Habit group at Yahoo Groups and they have a photo album of various Sisters of Charity wearing the cornette.Not all of them wore them like the DC. Some communities like the Daughters of the Heart of Mary,founded during the French Revolution never wore a habit due to the situation at the time.
Some communities wore white bonnets,like the Little Sisters of the Poor,and my cousin Sister John Edna’s community,the Sisters of Charity of Nazerath,Ky. Both communities went to wearing the cap and veil orangement.Not sure when her community adopted the simple veil, but I remember visiting Great Uncle Bill and his wife Edna, in Hot Springs, and Sr.John Edna was wearing it back then in 1971.

Some habits were widows weeds of the time in which the community was founded.
The Congregation of Notre Dame founded in Canada and the Dames of the Retreat of the Sacred Heart in Belgium wore a headress that was patterned after the old gable headdress of the late 15 and early 16th centuries,from which I believe the flemish and later french hood descended.
I have seen a few photos on ebay from a book on Belgian communities ,and I believe Crazy4Nuns,a frequent seller there has some photos from the book on her blog or facebook page. Some of these old habits as far as the headpieces go,were quite odd.
One nun i recall had a simple veil over a wimple,but then she was wearing around the neck, close to the throat, a huge starched circluar piece of cloth. It was patterned after the pleated and starched ruffs of the Elizabethean period,like you see in old portraits.However it didn’t appear to be pleated. One nun had a large white collar in the style of the 17th century.Her coif that covered the head was white,and came to a point on the forehead. Over this was a blackveil that came to a high peak like in the portraits of Catherine of Aragon and Blessed Margaret Plantegent Pole.It almost remined you of a pup tent.It looked so odd, appearing as though she had a white diamond on her forehead.
The top of her sleeves appeared to be maybe gathered into a puff at the top, and then they appeared tobe quite wide towards the wrist.Certainly some sort of renmant of when the community was founded way back when.
I love historical clothing,and all, and like to see sisters in habits, but some of the old ones were really strange.It’s no wonder the Vatican wanted communities to modify them.
If a community was founded to teach ,nurse or work with the poor originally, there is no reason they can’t get back to that,if they are going off on wild tangents with holistic healing, and other things.
By getting back to their founding roots, it just means that they should try to take that and apply it to the here and now,and use it as a way to bring people closer to Christ as all people have a hunger for the spritual and God.
 
Thanks for all the interesting information.By getting back to their founding roots, it just means that they should try to take that and apply it to the here and now,and use it as a way to bring people closer to Christ as all people have a hunger for the spritual and God.
You’re welcome. I always enjoy explaining these finer points from the perspective of a religious. I realize that many lay people, who never had to wear a habit, do not always understand the complications around it. I have nothing against wearing a habit. In fact, I wear one 24/7. I have always liked the wording that Perfectae Caritatis used to describe the habit: modest, simple, practical and becoming. OK, don’t ask me to define “becoming.” My guess is that they meant that it should be appropriate. That’s why I like the revelation that Mother Teresa had. The community was to be Indian. What is becoming in Indian culture is not the same as European culture or the other way around.

My own sisters, the Poor Clares, have a wide assortment of habits. Our Holy Mother Clare was clear that the nuns were to wear a habit. But she did not prescribe what it should be. She was a very wise woman, given the time in history in which she lived. She may as well have written Perfectae Caritatis or Vita Consacrata. She said that the superior should decide on a habit that was practical. It was interesting, to the best of my knowledge, Clare is the only founder who used the word culture and custom in her rule. She said that the habit was to be according to the culture and custom of time and place. Her only requirement was that it be simple, modest and poor.

It’s very romantic to look back at old pictures and see how beautiful some of the sisters and nuns looked in the habits of their time. But the fact is that they went through a great deal of trouble to produce and maintain them. At the time, no one thought about it, because everyone went through the same kind of work to produce and maintain clothing. All that work had nothing to do with penance and sacrifice. We have romanticized that part of it. There are people who say that religious men or religious women should go through all that work to show their spirit of sacrifice. However, the truth is that the founders never saw it that way. Our founders encouraged sacrifices that led to perfect charity and discipline. There are many things that we must do, on a daily basis, that lead to charity and discipline. They are not easy to do. Spending two hours a day over a habit is not one of them.

When I look at religious communities of men such as the Franciscans and the Dominicans, I can see why the Dominicans wear their habit a lot less than Franciscans. The Franciscan habits, regardless of which branch you belong to, are very simple. They are a tunic, with a cowl and a chord. The cowls are bigger and smaller. The colors vary. There are little details. For example, we wear a Tau over our chest. The Franciscans of the Immaculate wear a badge over the exact same habit as my community. The Capuchins and the Franciscans of the Renewal wear the same habit: one is brown and the other is grey. The Conventuals and the TOR both wear black, but the TOR has pleats sewn into it and the Conventuals do not. Notice that the pleats are sewn in, not ironed on. The point is that between our habit and that of the Dominicans, ours is very simple. You hang it on a hook way above your head. In the morning, you get up and slip under it. Tie a chord around your waste and Voila! You’re dressed. There are no scapulars, shoulder capes with cowls, belts with rosaries, an outer mantle and outer shoulder cape with another cowl. You don’t worry about being caught on anything and you don’t have to mend tears. There are no pins to hold certain pieces in place and you don’t wear anything under it. The white Dominican tunic requires a complete set of clothing under it, because it’s transparent. If you’re running to work, a pair of black slacks and a clerical shirt are much faster to put on and much easier to maintain. We, rarely wear the black slacks and clerical shirt. Most of us do not own a black suit either. It’s not necessary, except in a diocese where the bishop may require it. Those are far and few between. Bishops don’t interfere in those matters. Only once in my life was I ever asked to wear a black shirt and slacks by a bishop.

We have to keep Jesus in min in all things. The purpose of our dress is to remind us of who we are in relation to Jesus. This can be accomplished with a simpler style of clothing. I know a group of sisters, Servants of the Pierced Hearts, whose habit is beautiful and very practical. A brown jumper with a long skirt, white blouse and brown veil fastens behind the head with the hair exposed at the front. They look like sisters, but their habit is practical for the work that they do and accommodates to many climates, because it’s neither too warm not too lightweight. The Missionaries of Charity habit is very practical. It doesn’t get in the way of their work and it’s easy to maintain. It’s wash and wear.

Mother Teresa was asked why her sisters do not fast. Her answer can be applied to the use of these rather complicated habits that people love to look at, but most people would never want to wear. She said that her sisters did not fast, use the discipline or perform any forms of corporal penances because the poverty that they experience is sacrifice enough to please Jesus. She challenged the listener to continue to smile, continue to have faith, and continue to be patient in the face of so much suffering as the suffering that they see every day. The same can be said about a habit. If we live, pray and work as we should, we have enough sacrifices to make Jesus happy and to atone for sins. Sacrifice is about living and loving as Jesus did.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
In many orders the sisters had to bring their own fabric (usually black serge) with them when they entered the convent and they would make their own habit according to the pattern of that particular order’s habit. That was at a time when most girls knew how to sew. I don’t know what the orders do today. I think orders that still wear a full habit, usually have a number of sisters making them and they receive them at the time of profession. They are almost always made by the order and not purchased ready-made.
Before I left the novitiate and became a professed sister, Mother told me that the tradition was that I should make my own habit, as up until then I had been wearing a blouse and skirt with a headscarf. She gave me a pattern, some sewing thread, a large piece of material, a very old sewing machine and some very blunt scissors. One of the other sisters helped me cut out the habit shape but when it came to sewing it, I accidentally sewed a sleeve up at both ends and somehow cut my fingers on the scissors. Mother immediately took it all away and sewed it herself and gave me a large pile of socks to darn. She made it so much better than I ever could have and I love my habit more because Mother took on the sewing of it when she was already incredibly busy.
 
This sort of discussion can be advanced to the devotions orders/communities practice.

During the Seminary visitation a couple of years ago my House of Studies was questioned as to why we do not pray the Rosary in common nor is regular Adoration on our house schedule.

The answer given (and accepted) is that this is not part of the Carmelite Charism. We pray the Offices (Morning and Evening) and Mass together as well as a scheduled community Lectio Divina, we are to spend at least 30 minutes a day alone in our cell in private prayer/meditation. As our rule states…
[10] All are to remain in their cells or near them, meditating day and night on the Law of the Lord and keeping vigil in prayer, unless they are occupied with other worthy activities.
Now that is not to say that some students have and do gather together to pray a rosary and that we do not have Adoration on occasion, it is just not part of our regular schedule.

This when heard by some laity seems to scandalise them though it was accepted by the visitators.
 
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In June 1994 I was invited to a weekend conference that was going on, but couldn’t make it to the first day and half. A friend had given me the directions and I followed them faithfully, however they led me to a private home and when I rang the bell, the person who answered said, “No, there is no retreat here. Sorry. Try the convent behind us on the next street over.”

So I drove over to this enormous, imposing complex of buildings, parked, took a deep breath and rang the bell of this austere building. A tiny, old nun came to the door and said, “Oh! Hi! Are you my nephew? Come on in!” Before I could say no, I was ushered in and ended up being given a 3 hour tour of the entire building. It turned out to be the former novitiate for the Daughters of Charity. The woman who greeted me at the door was a 93 year old sister named Sr Adele Pisckacheck (I cannot remember the proper spelling, but I’ll never forget the name.)😉 This was where she had entered the convent many years ago, however the building was now being used as a retirement center for aging sisters since all of their vocations had dried up. Up until the Second Vatican Council, hundreds of young women entered every year.

At one point, I asked her how they got their habit and if it was uncomfortable. She just giggled and said, “No it wasn’t uncomfortable, that is just…what we wore. We really didn’t think anything about it.” She went on to say, the only thing that could be annoying was getting caught in the rain. “Ohhhh…I would be so mad. The whole thing would come down on your face.” We had a good laugh about it. There was a hall with pictures of each year of novices–hundreds of young women giving their lives in dedication. It was very sad to see an order on its death bed. How fitting, I thought, that the place where they came to enter religious life, should now be the place where they came to die. I’m sure Sr Adele has died by now, she gave me a photograph of Pius XII that she had received when he became Pontiff and she wrote her name on the back. I keep it in my prayer book as a reminder to pray for her. I never made it to the retreat, but I feel so blessed to have met sister Adele and to have gotten this wonderful history and tour. I didn’t get to explain that I was not, in fact, her nephew until half way through the tour.-ha!
 
I know of some Poor Clare Colettines who express themselves through dance, mimes and little sketches to learn about festivals and saints and other holy topics. They are cloistered but they do seem to be very happy, out-going and expressive. I would not say that those Religious who choose to do these things have a “nerve”. They also wear a traditional habit and go barefoot so you can’t lump all religious together into one stereotype.
I meant in Mass 🙂
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Ah, apologies. I would not think that dancing would be appropriate during Mass. My sister used to go to a Pentecostal Christian centre and some weeks they didn’t even have a sermon because “the Spirit moved” them to dance and speak in tongues and shout instead. I went along one week and it was chaos. In the end I sat in the lobby and read my Bible as the whole thing went one for 2 hours.

I know we all worship God in different ways but something like that doesn’t sit right with me. I always wonder how reverent it is to be doing all those things.:confused:
You understood me correctly 🙂 Yes, I meant not dancing during Mass! It doesn’t sit right with me, either!
 
I truly think that nuns and sisters should still wear the vestments… not only is it out of respect for the past nuns and sisters, it is a symbol of purity and God’s servants. Seeing a nun in the habit, always made me feel comfortable, like you could just walk up and say hello. I believe that it is a very important icon and should be worn.
 
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