Do Baptists really hate Catholics?

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The Baptists that preach hate and self-righteousness are no different than the Pharisees that Jesus rebuked.
 
the more you get attacked for being catholic the more you will find out how fortunate you are to be catholic the new covenant is with Jesus in the Eucharist. I don’t think that it’s being anti-catholic but false doctrines leading people away from Christ in the Eucharist.
everyone is invited to partake of the lamb at a catholic mass.😃
 
panner said:
I was Baptist and we never rejected others because they were strangers. We welcomed all as will most Protestants, there are some goofy ones to be sure but most of the Baptists will welcome anyone.
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I have any number of Baptist friends, In fact I had lunch at the house of a Baptist yesterday. Also in attendance were the #2 pastor from the largest local Baptist mega-church, who I know well and cordially, The 3rd attendee was a former Episcopal priest, now a non-denominational floater (floating betwixt and between various communities, depending on the preacher) who I have known for 22 years. A former Baptist mega-church elder who has recently eschewed the denomination (and a huge capital campaign for a new sanctuary) and has joined a new community of 80 souls renting space to meet on Sunday. A secular Presbyterian and little old me.

They got into a discussion about the proper church model. They finally agreed that the mega-church model with outlying meeting places (that’s French for Cathedral and parishes) was the most effective.

The secular Presbyterian raised the question: “Isn’t that the Catholic model?” The room went quiet. Nobody answered. I just chuckled. They each and all (except the Presbyterian) hate the Church like Jesse Jackson hates the KKK but they don’t hate me, they just kind of pity me.

Such is life. It was fascinating listening to them trying to recreate the wheel!
 
Keep in mind there are different types of Baptists. American, Southern, National, Reformed, and Independent. They range from flaming liberal to cult-like legalism. You can’t pigeonhole them. Independents are the worst offenders, but even among them you find different degrees. The Jerry Falwell types (which I was a part of) don’t make hate part of their culture. Other IFBs however are nortoriosly miserable (about everything, not just Catholics).
 
JustaServant said:
Keep in mind there are different types of Baptists. American, Southern, National, Reformed, and Independent. They range from flaming liberal to cult-like legalism. You can’t pigeonhole them. Independents are the worst offenders, but even among them you find different degrees. The Jerry Falwell types (which I was a part of) don’t make hate part of their culture. Other IFBs however are nortoriosly miserable (about everything, not just Catholics).
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You are so right! In the very independent Baptist church in which I was raised, we joked that anything that seemed fun would be considered sinful. The most extreme was when a group was going snow skiing in Tennessee. Some of the hard-shell types put that to a stop when someone considered that too worldly.

TV was frowned upon, all movies were sinful, swimming with the opposite sex was an invitation to condemnation, all alcohol was banned, non-religious music was evil, dancing was of Satan, etc. You get the picture by now. Seeming dour and pious were the accepted behaviors.

My mother goes to a SBC church that sponsors dances, ski trips, and has activities that would cause hard feelings in my old church. It is all a matter of degrees.
 
There is a group that hates Catholics even more than hard core Baptists, I think.

It is the OPC. Orthodox Presbyterian Church. Now I was a Presbyterian but not even close to these people. They have fewer than 30,000 members in this country and they are hard core Catholic haters.

Don’t seem to be growing any either. Could be it’s hard to find haters. 😃
 
Georgia said:
I was raised a Baptist and now am Catholic, so I can assure you that not all Baptists hate Catholics. On the other hand, I have heard some outrageous things over the course of my life, most misstating Catholic beliefs.

There really are Baptists who think Catholics worship statues, that Catholics hold the Blessed Mother as a god, and that we think we can do anything as long as we confess. I have heard it said that Catholics do not really believe in God and that we have to do anything a pope orders.

In rural areas of the South, there are people who have been taught those things. They think the Church is a deceiver and that it damns people because it does not follow the Bible. Hate may be too strong a word for their emotions toward the Church; revulsion may be closer to what they feel. They see themselves as having a mission to get Catholics “saved” and into what they think is true Christianity.

It isn’t at all uncommon to meet Baptists who have a sense of superiority about their beliefs. In the twenty-plus years since I converted, I have been told things like I should get a real Bible, that I should get myself saved, and lots of snide comments about the abuse scandals.

I will grant you that there are those who do indeed hate the Church, but my experience says they are very much a minority of Baptists. If I had to guess, I would put that number under one percent in my part of the United States. The remainder would be people who feel no particular way about the Church or those who see it as a field for what they call “soul winning.”
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I used to be repulsed by idol worship. I hated it as much as God hates it (or so I felt). Whenever I saw a picture of a person praying or bowing down before a statue, I equated that act with worshiping the statue, as though it were an idol.

Now, without any commentary to explain the picture, a person is going to come to some type of conclusion (whether true or false) based on their pre-existing ideas of what it means to worship an idol. So, I hope you can see (at least from a baptist perspective) that bowing down and praying in front of a statue has the appearance of worshiping the thing that is in front of you. It may not be what you are doing in reality, but the appearance is there nonetheless. Yes, appearances look differently to different people based on their current knowledge and experience. So, you can show the same picture to a Catholic and also to a Baptist, and chances are the Catholic won’t have a problem with it, but the Baptist (unless he’s been educated or had experience in that situation) may assume it’s idol worship. Sometimes, it’s just better to ask than assume.
 
I was pretty close to the OPC at one time and I can tell you none of them hated Catholics, some people in it maybe but we shouldn’t paint with a broad brush.
 
panner said:
I was pretty close to the OPC at one time and I can tell you none of them hated Catholics, some people in it maybe but we shouldn’t paint with a broad brush.
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Well all I know is that I have dealt with some of them in another forum and the HATRED of Catholicism is absolutely, sinfully, unbelievable.
 
People in my independent Baptist church looked down on Catholics, but they did not hate them, unless you are talking about the pope. They most certainly considered him to be an agent of evil.

The SDA’s were and I think still are wildly anti-Catholic, but the Baptists I knew saw Catholics as only misled would-be Christians who needed to be led to Christ.
 
Miriam1947 said:
There is a group that hates Catholics even more than hard core Baptists, I think.

It is the OPC. Orthodox Presbyterian Church. Now I was a Presbyterian but not even close to these people. They have fewer than 30,000 members in this country and they are hard core Catholic haters.

Don’t seem to be growing any either. Could be it’s hard to find haters. 😃
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Some of the good folks in the PCA (Presbyterian Church in America) are pretty strident anti-Catholics. I think the, always critical, R.C. Sproul, drs. is a pretty constant hater and Presbyterian minister.
 
One thing that has come to my mind, remember my cousin’s in law telling me that when they went to the South for a trip and asked where was the local Catholic church, and hearing a negative response of not being welcomed…

The South is where a Catholic conversion is taking place…There is where EWTN was started, there is a Domincan congregation of sisters growing by leaps and bounds…Tennessee? I met a Discalced Carmelite priest who grew up in a non-Catholic family in Georgia…

I would pray that the person start by just visiting Catholic spiritual centers that are growing…and impacting faith in a very good way in the rest of the country…

Christ is the one who turns the darkness into light…and we all have that opportunity…I am finally starting to get courage living in an area that profanes the sacred in certain ways…finally we are used to living here…seeing how we are different, but sharing Christ’s love and guidance…and staying away from difficult people of all stripes…seek being with people of the common good.
 
Georgia said:
You are so right! In the very independent Baptist church in which I was raised, we joked that anything that seemed fun would be considered sinful. The most extreme was when a group was going snow skiing in Tennessee. Some of the hard-shell types put that to a stop when someone considered that too worldly.

TV was frowned upon, all movies were sinful, swimming with the opposite sex was an invitation to condemnation, all alcohol was banned, non-religious music was evil, dancing was of Satan, etc. You get the picture by now. Seeming dour and pious were the accepted behaviors.

My mother goes to a SBC church that sponsors dances, ski trips, and has activities that would cause hard feelings in my old church. It is all a matter of degrees.
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so i take it, they would not like it one bit, if they heard me crank out “SHOUT AT THE DEVIL” or WILD SIDE" by MOTLEY CRUE, on my electric guitar? bummer. i had a friend who was a very gifted guitarist, who joined a baptist church, and one of their rules was no guitar playing. public or private. this was in michigan. his membership did not last too long… 😛 peace 🙂
 
What I’d like to know is where is the Christian Charity with these supposedly “Christian” Catholic haters? Shades of Jack Chick and LLoraine Boetner!

My sister-in-law is fundamental Baptist and is one of the most Christian women I have ever come across. We do have our little set to’s about religion, but there is never any hatred. She always ends her conversations with ABp. Fulton Sheen’s “God Love You”.

PAX DOMINI :signofcross:

Shalom haMeshiach
 
Javl said:
What I’d like to know is where is the Christian Charity with these supposedly “Christian” Catholic haters? Shades of Jack Chick and LLoraine Boetner!

My sister-in-law is fundamental Baptist and is one of the most Christian women I have ever come across. We do have our little set to’s about religion, but there is never any hatred. She always ends her conversations with ABp. Fulton Sheen’s “God Love You”.

PAX DOMINI :signofcross:

Shalom haMeshiach
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I think you have hit on the typical response. Few Baptists I knew when I was one would ever think of hating anyone over differences in faith. Most were wonderful people who would do anything for a anyone, even if it meant sacrifice. Yes, there are the extremists, but that is true for any group.

Even though they find the Catholic faith wanting, or what they think is the Catholic faith, they very rarely hate Catholics. Oh, sure, they may think Catholics are victims of Vatican deception, but that is quite a way from hate.
 
rodytc said:
I was born as a Catholic and raised in a Muslim country, after a while from moving to USA because of security reasons in my original country and threats against Christians, I moved to a place where Baptists are dominated. To be honest with you I am not so religious, but I can say of my self as a secular Catholic where I love everything being taught by my family as a catholic, especially the values of love not to hate. I found that baptists reject everyone who don’t think like them, in fact after one year in this place I find my self alone with no friends, it is really hard for me to absorb that, where I love the values of freedom in this country and who gave me my rights when my original country didn’t because of Muslim fundamentalists. Sorry to say that, but from my experience with the two, I can now compare Baptists fundamentalists to Muslim fundamentalists. Unfortunately I can’t move to another place in the mean time due to my work and study.
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OmegaSupreme said:
One thing to keep in mind is that there are many different kinds of Baptists, who range from the extremely hardcore fundamentalist sects, to the Calvinists, and on to the extreme liberal end of the spectrum. The fundamentalists are the ones most likely to be vitriolic towards Catholicism, while most of the other groups will have a range of acceptance/tolerance. Much of it depends on what part of the country you are in. Unfortunately, down here in Texas, there’s quite a few of the fundamentalists, and almost all of them will feel it’s their duty to God to convert you away from the paganistic church of the Whore of Babylon. The best thing to do is to just smile at them and keep your distance.
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even members of the occult know more about the Eucharist and true presence of Christ than some denominations. If they knew what they were attacking they would convert.
 
mountaintop said:
even members of the occult know more about the Eucharist and true presence of Christ than some denominations. If they knew what they were attacking they would convert.
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You are so right. You never see devil worshippers trying to get ‘consecrated’ Protestant bread.

They always go for the real stuff. In the Catholic Church.
 
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