Do Catholics believe John 6:53?

[PRmerger]

We know there really isn’t any, but it is a very valid question (regarding: The Rapture) Can you address it on another thread?

To be quite frank, guanophore, I don’t think I could stomach a real discussion about The Rapture. That belief, along with the one about amniotic fluid, is so incredulous to me that I cannot imagine an intelligent conversation on those topics.

I am thoroughly enjoying this thread, however, and hope to stay to the end!

(My question to Ralph was really to get him to realize that this concept of The Rapture is a novel idea not taught by anyone who knew Christ, knew the Apostles, knew their successors…)

 

[fbl9]

You will find the same reference to the “rapture” in 1 Thes 4:13-18. This is the pre-trib 'rapture". Ralph

Once again i beg of you Ralphy, read the actual words written in the bible…
St.Paul’s first epistle to the Thessalonians 4;13-18 TWICE MENTIONS "WE WHO SURVIVE’’ what does that mean Ralphy?it means those that survive the tribulation.
from chapter 5 “the day of the Lord will come as a theif” read the rest from chap 5;1-11,clearly the pre-trib rapture is a complete lie made by men such as you who fail to actually read what is written.

sorry Guanophore

 

[PRmerger]

.There is no priest in the NT church. Though there are many prayers in the Bible, there are no prayers to any saints in the entire Bible.

More things “not in the Bible”:

-that Scripture alone is the sole rule of faith for Christians

-that we are saved, or justified, by faith alone

• that Baptism is a symbolic gesture that the already saved believer makes to show his commitment to God

-that every individual, Christian or not, has the right to interpret every single passage of Scripture on their own in order to determine, by their own authority, what is true doctrine and what is false doctrine

-that you are to have altar calls

-that you are to meet at your church every Wednesday night

-that it is okay to disagree on the ‘non–essential’ doctrines as long as you agree on the ‘essential’ doctrines?

-that there is even such a thing as a ‘non–essential doctrine’ – a non–essential part of the Word of God”
paraphrased from John Martignoni “Apologetics for the Masses, Issue #110”

Do you follow these non-Biblical beliefs, Ralph and Russ?

 

[guanophore]

I believe that all scripture was taught from the time of Christ, and is still taught today. Ralph

You are so right about this Ralph. During the time Jesus and the Apostles were on earth, they taught from the Septuagint. Most of the Apostles had already been martryrd by the time the NT was finished being written, but it was another 300 years later that those 27 books were canonized and promulgated as the NT. This was done by the teaching authority that Christ put in place.

From that time until this, people who do not believe what Jesus and the Apostles taught have distorted the scriptures to try to make them say things that are not consistent with the Teachings of the Apostles.

One example of this is found in this thread. Jesus taught the Apostles that He gave His real flesh and His real blood for the life of the world. This they taught to their successors, along with the manner in which He ordained that we might proclaim His death until He comes again. Yet, rather than receive the Apostolic Teaching, modern “bible christians” prefer to find other meanings for the words.

What is the context of these “binding and loosing” verses? Do they have anything to do with confession of sin?

It is a way of describing legislative authority. It is the power to change the way things are done. It does relate to confession to the extent that the successors of the Apostles were given the authority to change public confession to private, and also to design the manner in which it was done.

What do you mean by the "baptism of water and spirit?. I also do not see the word “eucharist” in the bible, where did that word come from?. Ralph

There is another baptism thread. I would prefer your question be addressed there, as it is off topic here.

The word Eucharist means “thanksgiving” in the Greek. The greatest thanksgiving we can give to Christ is to offer all of ourselves to Him, to be joined with Him in His death, and to proclaim that death until He comes. This is what we do in the Mass.

I am really not sure who teaches scripture. I know that if the church I attend did not teach from the Bible only, I would not go there. Ralph

Anyone can pick up Scripture and start “teaching” it. Most of them do not teach what the Apostles taught and believed. They get their ideas of what scripture means from other sources.

OH,you mean the Roman catholic church? Ralph

No, actually. Eucharist is a Greek word, imported into the Latin Rite from the Byzantine Catholics.

 

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