Do Catholics have a plan for when abortion is illegal?

[MomaMary8]

For your research, here is another pro-life response for mother’s who have been handed a devastating diagnosis for their unborn child. It is a home that provides perinatal hospice, God’s answer to the horror of late term abortion. A loving way to help a woman and her family come to grips with the immenent death of their unborn.

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As you can see, Catholics can come up with wonderful loving ways to help a woman choose life

 

[severus68]

Hello. I’m non-Roman Catholic,I’m Writing a paper for school for logic class. I have heard both sides of the argument on pro-life pro-choice and my question is what with the Roman Catholic plan be to help mothers who would’ve previously gone to Planned Parenthood for it or some other abortion clinic. this is a topic I haven’t been able to find much information on and was wondering if somebody here could point me in the right direction of basically how would Catholics handle the mothers who are still getting pregnant or unable to cope with being pregnant. Thank you for your responses ahead of time I appreciate it greatly.

It may be that those who posted here are all from the US so have spoken of the support mechanism in the US. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

My point of view - that all anti abortionists must do more than just talk the talk. I divide women who seek abortion into 3 groups. First there is the group who find it inconvenient to have a child at that time or never wanted a child. I have no sympathy for such people. The second group are those who are terrified of having a child when unmarried maybe because of society’s condemnation, no family support. The third group are those pregnant from rape including incestuous rape. I cannot ever imagine the pain and suffering of the third group. It is not just about institutions set up by the Church and organisations. Further, these are not to be found everywhere in the world. It is the suport of individuals that are lacking. Who would be prepared to take unwed girls/women into their homes, support them in every way, emphasise that babies are precious and gifts from God whatever the circumstances of their conception and birth?

So in response to your question, the Catholic Church as an institution may be ready to get its resources together to help and support these mothers. I am not sure about the majority of Catholics.

 

[Monty61]

The op’s question is based on a flawed premise; assuming abortion will become illegal. Even if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned, abortion would not become illegal everywhere. It would simply restore the situation that existed before. Some states could outlaw it and others could keep it legal.
So your “research” should look at that eventuality also.

 

[Monty61]

Regarding the OP:

Well, what we currently do (providing healthcare to mothers and babies, assisting with crisis pregnancies) only more so. Possibly with government help.

Yes, the government! They do such a great job at everything!

 

[PaulinVA]

I find the premise of the OP very interesting.

The premise is that if abortion was not legal, then the groups that are against abortion have an obligation to somehow provide for the women who are no longer able to kill their babies.

That is flawed. The women who get pregnant are responsible for their babies. Since babies are the natural result of having sex, I would suggest they start there.

 

[Evan]

In our parish we have the gabriel project. It help women who contact us for 2-3 years. Getting through the pregnancy, starting life as a mom, or adding to an existing family.

gabrielproject.com/faq.htm

 

[MC_taters]

1.2 billion members are a sub-group?

As to your question: Just the way the Church and her members did before 1973. Please correct this if it is not true: It appears that you think that banning infanticide will cause some sort of societal damage or injustice. This is a poor default to begin from.

It is when there are 2.2 billion Christians

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

Yes, the government! They do such a great job at everything!

 

[Bluegoat]

I find the premise of the OP very interesting.

The premise is that if abortion was not legal, then the groups that are against abortion have an obligation to somehow provide for the women who are no longer able to kill their babies.

That is flawed. The women who get pregnant are responsible for their babies. Since babies are the natural result of having sex, I would suggest they start there.

Wow, this is the kind of thing that convinces a lot of people that they don’t want to be part of the pro-life movement, and that pro-life people are seriously lacking in loving hearts.

More generally: something I think would be very interesting, since the CC tends to tell it’s members that they cannot or should not vote for pro-choice candidates, would be a list or suggestions for other political policies that would tend to support the kind of society that is a pro-life society. That way people could also look at those things when looking to vote, or perhaps look to starting up those kinds of structures in their community.

I do not think the advice to look at the earlier structures that helped women in these situations was necessarily good. Unwanted pregnancies were not always handled well in the past including by the institutions that were supposed to help.

 

[severus68]

In our parish we have the gabriel project. It help women who contact us for 2-3 years. Getting through the pregnancy, starting life as a mom, or adding to an existing family.

gabrielproject.com/faq.htm

I applaud the people in your parish. God bless.

 

[severus68]

I find the premise of the OP very interesting.

The premise is that if abortion was not legal, then the groups that are against abortion have an obligation to somehow provide for the women who are no longer able to kill their babies.

That is flawed. The women who get pregnant are responsible for their babies. Since babies are the natural result of having sex, I would suggest they start there.

I suppose that is why Mother Theresa is a saint and I admire all she did. She did not judge and she asked women in desperate straits not to abort their babies but to give them to her and that she would take care of that.

Its not about obligations, it is about compassion and mercy not just judgement and self righteousness. Its about being a Christian.

 

[Sancta_Caecilia]

Hello. I’m non-Roman Catholic,I’m Writing a paper for school for logic class. I have heard both sides of the argument on pro-life pro-choice and my question is what with the Roman Catholic plan be to help mothers who would’ve previously gone to Planned Parenthood for it or some other abortion clinic. this is a topic I haven’t been able to find much information on and was wondering if somebody here could point me in the right direction of basically how would Catholics handle the mothers who are still getting pregnant or unable to cope with being pregnant. Thank you for your responses ahead of time I appreciate it greatly.

Women who would previously have decided to have an abortion would have to abstain, practice ‘family planning’, use the rhythm method or get pregnant and deliver a baby. I dont think there are any plans in place. Granted, a catholic woman- or any woman- should not be repeatedly having abortions (im pretty pro-life but have exceptions) but if abortion was illegal and the catholic woman was against contraception (which is odd if shes pro abortion) then the only options for avoiding pregnancy would be abstaining or practicising dodgy unreliable methods which often end in accidents. I assume the usual charities would still cotinue to take care emotionally and physically of such mothers.

 

[Spirithound]

Hello. I’m non-Roman Catholic,I’m Writing a paper for school for logic class. I have heard both sides of the argument on pro-life pro-choice and my question is what with the Roman Catholic plan be to help mothers who would’ve previously gone to Planned Parenthood for it or some other abortion clinic. this is a topic I haven’t been able to find much information on and was wondering if somebody here could point me in the right direction of basically how would Catholics handle the mothers who are still getting pregnant or unable to cope with being pregnant. Thank you for your responses ahead of time I appreciate it greatly.

It will be much easier when the millions of dollars currently going to abortions begins to come to the pro-life crisis centres.

 

[kildare]

some kind of party?

 

[garyo49]

Hello. I’m non-Roman Catholic,I’m Writing a paper for school for logic class. I have heard both sides of the argument on pro-life pro-choice and my question is what with the Roman Catholic plan be to help mothers who would’ve previously gone to Planned Parenthood for it or some other abortion clinic. this is a topic I haven’t been able to find much information on and was wondering if somebody here could point me in the right direction of basically how would Catholics handle the mothers who are still getting pregnant or unable to cope with being pregnant. Thank you for your responses ahead of time I appreciate it greatly.

If that ever happens I know we will get one (a plan) real quick. I promise I will devote my time full time.

 

[garyo49]

I suppose that is why Mother Theresa is a saint and I admire all she did. She did not judge and she asked women in desperate straits not to abort their babies but to give them to her and that she would take care of that.

Its not about obligations, it is about compassion and mercy not just judgement and self righteousness. Its about being a Christian.

Don’t you think there needs to be personal responsibility? What’s happened to us. I heard on the radio this morning that there are more households “shacking up” than married households. Legalization of birth control gave us the sexual revolution and abortion on demand. I think the clergy have been very irresponsible in not tackling the issues of birth control and premarital sex. Their responsibilities are to save souls not give sermons that people enjoy or are comfortable with. I know how people are, When Father is talking about something weighty you can look around and watch everyone squirm.

Most Catholics nowdays don’t even think it is a sin to use birth control or have sex outside of the marriage sacrament. A good majority of abortions come about because birth control failed. If we didn’t have it available maybe more young people would practice abstinence. It is estimated that 3500 to 4000 babies are slaughtered each day yanked limb by limb from the safety of their mothers womb. Let’s commit ourselves to helping end this holocaust, please. Let’s pray for those being aborted and for their mothers.

visit: www.priestsforlife.com or www.40daysforlife.com

 

[St_Francis]

Women who would previously have decided to have an abortion would have to abstain, practice ‘family planning’, use the rhythm method or get pregnant and deliver a baby. I dont think there are any plans in place. Granted, a catholic woman- or any woman- should not be repeatedly having abortions (im pretty pro-life but have exceptions) but if abortion was illegal and the catholic woman was against contraception (which is odd if shes pro abortion) then the only options for avoiding pregnancy would be abstaining or practicising dodgy unreliable methods which often end in accidents. I assume the usual charities would still cotinue to take care emotionally and physically of such mothers.

Natural family planning has improved from what it was in the 1940’s and 50’s. You might look into that before talking about dodgy and unreliable methods.

Moreover, the end or goal of marriage is procreation, not avoiding having babies. The vast majority of abortions are procured by women who are not married or who are not currently associated with their husbands. If people stopped having sex pitside of marriage, the number of abortions would go way down.

 

[JaneGrey]

Don’t you think there needs to be personal responsibility? What’s happened to us. I heard on the radio this morning that there are more households “shacking up” than married households. Legalization of birth control gave us the sexual revolution and abortion on demand. I think the clergy have been very irresponsible in not tackling the issues of birth control and premarital sex. Their responsibilities are to save souls not give sermons that people enjoy or are comfortable with. I know how people are, When Father is talking about something weighty you can look around and watch everyone squirm.

Most Catholics nowdays don’t even think it is a sin to use birth control or have sex outside of the marriage sacrament. A good majority of abortions come about because birth control failed. If we didn’t have it available maybe more young people would practice abstinence. It is estimated that 3500 to 4000 babies are slaughtered each day yanked limb by limb from the safety of their mothers womb. Let’s commit ourselves to helping end this holocaust, please. Let’s pray for those being aborted and for their mothers.

visit: www.priestsforlife.com or www.40daysforlife.com

Even if abortion were to become a crime, it is unrealistic to expect every one who produces offspring to want to take care of them. Most people are fertile and can bear children but that does not mean they should. Some people are not fit to be parents and the last thing we should be doing is forcing them, especially when they are mature enough to say that they should be the ones taking care of the child.

I m not advocating abortion, just that children do not necessarily belong with their biological parents.

Also birth control has not been proven to have caused abortions. Many on this forum throw this point around, not realising the issue is alot more complex.

 

[Sancta_Caecilia]

Natural family planning has improved from what it was in the 1940’s and 50’s. You might look into that before talking about dodgy and unreliable methods.

Moreover, the end or goal of marriage is procreation, not avoiding having babies. The vast majority of abortions are procured by women who are not married or who are not currently associated with their husbands. If people stopped having sex pitside of marriage, the number of abortions would go way down.

just clarifying: i wasnt refering to family planning as a dodgy unreliable method- i was talking about a man and a woman, married or unmarried, with catholic values who are having sex (as the original question implied) but would not have access to an abortion if they had an accident (as the original question asked). Once pregnant the only option in this scenario (the scenario i think she was trying to get at was catholics who were having sex and that were pregnant and wanted an abortion but could not acces one) is giving birth,adoption. otherwise the obvious thing is to prevent the pregnancy in the first place, with preventative options not being that great if they want to have sex and avoid pregnancy but adhere to catholic teachings (apart from the no sex before marriage it seems which is commonly overlooked especially in younger people ). these option include the rhythm method (dodgy, unreliable) or using family planning if married. Of course there is the logical option of abstaining but the question (to me) was hypothesising that they were happily having sex guilt- free and happy to have an abortion if it was available.

 

[Holly3278]

Well, first, if abortion is made illegal, we could use all of the money that is otherwise spent funding abortion and such to help pregnant women carry their babies to term and give them up for adoption if need be. The money could also go to fund adoption agencies.

As for women who choose to get an illegal abortion once abortion is made illegal, well, I propose that they either go to prison or get a hefty fine. But then again, that is nothing compared to the spiritual losses one would have for getting an abortion whether illegal or not.