Do Catholics worship the Eucharist?

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We adore Christ as God…there are no “Consecrated Elements”…it IS God that we worship. and BTW the Desert Fathers were doing so during the 3rd and 4th Centuries. We don’t USE Christ…we Adore Him!
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You are absolutely right, I had a slip of the tongue. Perhaps its better to say Catholics worship the Eucharist, which in Catholic belief is the literal Body and Blood of Christ, under the “veil” of bread and wine.
 
But I will say that, when I was an Anglican I agreed with my rector that Christ told us, “Take, eat” not “take, worship in a monstrance.” That was my take at the time, informed by my belief in the 39 Articles. I remember his statement and my firm belief in the statement when I read it in the back of the BOCP…but as we’ve said a million times, different strokes for various Anglican folks…😃
Of course.

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But I will say that, when I was an Anglican I agreed with my rector that Christ told us, “Take, eat” not “take, worship in a monstrance.” That was my take at the time, informed by my belief in the 39 Articles. I remember his statement and my firm belief in the statement when I read it in the back of the BOCP…but as we’ve said a million times, different strokes for various Anglican folks…😃
Elizabeth I would have approved.

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someone said - As far as who is the Catholic News Agency. You can research yourself quite easily by going to their website and clicking on the “about us” link in the upper right hand corner

Well anyone can say anything about themselves, especially on line. Is it a trusted site with correct Catholic information that Catholics in general agree with, was the purpose of my question. I didn’t recognize some of the names.

I am just very surprised at this- I didn’t realize that you were actually worshipping what we see as the Bread and Wine after consecration. The way the piece was written it was almost as if it was **a new idea **being brought out.

Do all Catholic know this? I thought you might simply adore Christ in the Bread and Wine the way you do Mary. Not that Catholics adore the statutes of Mary.

Is this one of those sacred tradtions Catholics keep talking about the non-catholics don’t have? I mean non-catholics have the real presence in under and with and we consume it in remembrance, but biblically I see nothing about worshipping it.

Can you show me in the Bible where it says to worship the Eucharist? If it isn’t in the Bible can you show me how this tradition was pasted down through the ages starting with Peter.
 
You’ve hit upon the one thing that really is true that some anti-Catholics realize. If it is not the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ then we really are idolatrous. If it is, then why don’t you join us at mass?

John 6
I have been invited to communion before at a Catholic Church. The Priest said all that believe this is the Body and Blood of Christ are invited to join in.

Well I do believe in the presence but it involves also consuming the bread and wine. In my church while treated with respect the left over bread and wine are not the Body and Blood of Christ.

AND that we are doing so in remembrance- not worshipping the sacrament.

I guess I am shocked too because of the way GOD feels about idols - seems like a very fine line here. LOL! But what do I know I a just a simple Bible believing Christian.
 
Schaick,

What do you mean by “involves consuming the bread and wine?” It seems like you are taking a line which makes the Real Presence depend upon the faith of the participant. Thus, the ‘left over’ bread and wine are not the Body and Blood.
However, if this is the case, why does Paul warn us not to participate in the Lord’s table without recognizing the Body and Blood of Christ, lest we eat and drink judgment on ourselves? If you are right, eating and drinking without recognizing the Real Presence would just result in eating normal bread and not really receiving the Sacrament. St. Ignatius, in around AD 110 tells Christians not even to associate with those men who deny the Real Presence. If the Real Presence depends on the faith of the participant, why would it be such a grave sin to take the Eucharist without faith?
 
About using the name Holy Trinity – it is simply abbreviated form usage to shorten saying The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit every time we talk about them.

Hypostatic union is language for people who want to go into deeper theology. The average person just focuses on the graces of Christ present in the sacraments.
 
that we are doing so in remembrance-
  1. By remembering and proclaiming you are indeed worshiping.
  2. To re-member is more than to simply re-mind. We re-member the day and the act and the man, and we do so by keeping his commandment to truly eat his body and drink his blood, lest we have no life in ourselves.
  3. The Ark of the Old Covenant contained 3 things: the tables of the 10 commandments, the staff and the manna which came down from heaven. If that manna which only served to feed the body was worthy of permanent remembrance, religious respect and adoration, and occupied the holiest place inside the holiest temple of the Jews, then how much more would the true manna from heaven, which gives eternal life, be worthy of our respect and adoration? Moses never said God was in the manna; however, Jesus himself says that he is in the Eucharist.
I think it is important that we all remember what remember literally means 🙂 . When we do that, the logic of Eucharistic Adoration becomes plainly obvious.
 
someone said - As far as who is the Catholic News Agency. You can research yourself quite easily by going to their website and clicking on the “about us” link in the upper right hand corner

Well anyone can say anything about themselves, especially on line. Is it a trusted site with correct Catholic information that Catholics in general agree with, was the purpose of my question. I didn’t recognize some of the names.

I am just very surprised at this- I didn’t realize that you were actually worshipping what we see as the Bread and Wine after consecration. The way the piece was written it was almost as if it was **a new idea **being brought out.

Do all Catholic know this? I thought you might simply adore Christ in the Bread and Wine the way you do Mary. Not that Catholics adore the statutes of Mary.

Is this one of those sacred tradtions Catholics keep talking about the non-catholics don’t have? I mean non-catholics have the real presence in under and with and we consume it in remembrance, but biblically I see nothing about worshipping it.

Can you show me in the Bible where it says to worship the Eucharist? If it isn’t in the Bible can you show me how this tradition was pasted down through the ages starting with Peter.
Those of us who affirm the concept of the Real Presence, in the Catholic sense, do not believe it is bread and wine, any longer, but is transformed, and is, truly, really and substantially the Body and Blood of Christ, together with His soul and divinity. In brief, as our priest says at the major elevation, “Behold, the Lamb of God. Behold Him who taketh away the sins of the world”. It is the Lord. It is He whom we worship, in thw Eucharist.

GKC

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If you all believe in The Real Presence…as you claim to…if it doesn’t happen via Transubstantiation, then how, in your opinion and according to your church’s teachings, does the bread and wine become The Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ???
I don’t know, and neither do you. That’s why we leave it up to God. A simple man-made term “transubstantiation” invented by a pagan living in a hut cannot explain the mystery of Holy Communion.

And no Lutherans do not believe in consubstantiation, any philosophical term to describe the Real Presence is rejected.
 
someone said - As far as who is the Catholic News Agency. You can research yourself quite easily by going to their website and clicking on the “about us” link in the upper right hand corner

Well anyone can say anything about themselves, especially on line. Is it a trusted site with correct Catholic information that Catholics in general agree with, was the purpose of my question. I didn’t recognize some of the names.

I am just very surprised at this- I didn’t realize that you were actually worshipping what we see as the Bread and Wine after consecration. The way the piece was written it was almost as if it was **a new idea **being brought out.

Do all Catholic know this? I thought you might simply adore Christ in the Bread and Wine the way you do Mary. Not that Catholics adore the statutes of Mary.

Is this one of those sacred tradtions Catholics keep talking about the non-catholics don’t have? I mean non-catholics have the real presence in under and with and we consume it in remembrance, but biblically I see nothing about worshipping it.

Can you show me in the Bible where it says to worship the Eucharist? If it isn’t in the Bible can you show me how this tradition was pasted down through the ages starting with Peter.
We worship Christ.The host and wine at consecration becomes sacramentally the Body Blood Soul and Divinty of Christ.Any reference to "the breaking of the Bread"is Eucharistic reference else why would St. Paul speak about the reality of Jesus’ Body and Blood in the Eucharist, in 1 Corinthians 11:23-30:

For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes. WHOEVER THEREFORE EATS THE BREAD AND DRINKS THE CUP OF THE LORD IN AN UNWORTHY MANNER(MORTAL UNCONFESSED SIN)WILL BE GUILTY OF PROFANING THE BODY AND BLOOD OF THE LORD. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself. That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.

If that isn’t true recognition of the True Presence then I don’t know what is.How could they and we not worship Him.It is not a symbol it is God nade PHYSICALLY present.
 
We worship Christ.The host and wine at consecration becomes sacramentally the Bodt Bool Soul and Divinty of Christ.Any reference to "the breaking of the Bread"is Eucharistic reference else why would St. Paul speak about the reality of Jesus’ body and blood in the Eucharist, in 1 Corinthians 11:23-30:

For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes. WHOEVER THEREFORE EATS THE BREAD AND DRINKS THE CUP OF THE LORD IN AN UNWORTHY MANNER(MORTAL UNCONFESSED SIN)WILL BE GUILTY OF PROFANING THE BODY AND BLOOD OF THE LORD. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself. That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.

If that isn’t true recognition of the True Presence then I don’t know what is.How could they and we not worship Him.It is not a symbol it is God nade PHYSICALLY present.
Look at the verse closely.

Whoever eats the bread.

I will repeat myself, Protestants out of the Magisterial Reformation do not deny the Real Presence. Just the term used by the Lateran Councils 1,200 years after the death of the first Christians.
 
I don’t know, and neither do you. That’s why we leave it up to God. A simple man-made term “transubstantiation” invented by a pagan living in a hut cannot explain the mystery of Holy Communion.

Please explain what you mean by this.

And no Lutherans do not believe in consubstantiation, any philosophical term to describe the Real Presence is rejected.
I would like to hear from other Luteran,s on this
 
Look at the verse closely.

Whoever eats the bread.

I will repeat myself, Protestants out of the Magisterial Reformation do not deny the Real Presence. Just the term used by the Lateran Councils 1,200 years after the death of the first Christians.
Catholics often refer to eating the host which would be the same as “bread”-we’re not going to degenerate into an arguement over vernacular-semantics are we?If you choose to interpret this part literally I assume you interpret John 6 literally.It is impossible to profane bread and wine.St Paul realised that and if you’re reasonable you will too.
 
Understanding the Eucharist in Three Easy Steps
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     God as God institutes Passover:  In order for Moses and God’s chosen people to be freed from Egypt they had to survive the first Passover, where the Angel of Death would come and kill the first born of everyone who did not follow God’s command.  That command stated simply to kill an unblemished lamb, put the blood on the door frame and then consume the lamb.  As Scott Hahn says so well in his book The Lambs Supper, if they ate symbolic lamb-shaped cookies, their first born died.  So, you had to sacrifice AND consume the lamb to escape death.  So far so good, right?
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     God as Jesus fulfills Passover:  Jesus, as part of the Trinity, knew what God meant when he spoke to Moses.  Jesus even conversed with Moses during the Transfiguration.  God as Jesus knew, like the first Passover lamb, he had to be sacrificed so that we may escape death.  This time, however, it was death from sin.  Like Moses’ lamb, Jesus would be unblemished.  He would be sacrificed.  His blood would be spilled on the cross.
And we had to consume him.

As he says in John, we had to eat his flesh and drink his blood. The translation for eat can be more accurately stated as to gnaw or chew. He wasn’t speaking figuratively and he lost thousands of followers that day because they couldn’t understand how that was possible.

And unlike numerous times Jesus spoke in parables, this time Jesus offered no further explanation to his Apostles.

You can think of it this way. If Moses’ lamb could speak, what would it have to say so that his first born could escape the Angel of Death? Well, that’s how Jesus was speaking to us, as the Lamb of God.

But, how will we be able to consume Jesus? Good question.

He answers that question later at The Last Supper. Here Jesus takes the Passover meal, a meal put into place by God himself, and says this bread once used for Passover will now become my body and this wine once used for Passover will now become my blood.

So now we understand the original sacrifice of the lamb with Moses and the paschal sacrifice of Jesus as the Lamb of God. Now what?
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     God as Holy Spirit Makes the Eucharist Available to Us Every Day:  Did the Apostles think Jesus was speaking literally or symbolically?  They saw his face when he said we had to eat his flesh and drink his blood.  They heard his voice.  They saw his body language.  Did they believe him?  Apparently so.
As St. Paul says in Corinthians, “when we eat this bread and drink this cup we proclaim the death of our Lord Jesus Christ” and “those who eat this bread and drink this cup un-worthily, bring condemnation on themselves.” If the Eucharist were merely symbolic, would being unworthy result in condemnation?

After the Ascension and after Pentecost, the Apostles had to figure out how to worship in a post-Messiah world. What do we do? When do we do it? What happens while we’re there?

St. Justin Martyr, in a letter written about 150 AD gives us critical insight. For Catholics, see if this sounds familiar.

•He states that the Disciples of Christ meet on the day of the sun (Why is that important? Jews met on Saturday. Why did Christians meet on Sunday? The Resurrection).
•All believers who dwell nearby come to the same place (church).
•The memoirs of the Apostles and writings of the prophets are read (First Reading from the Old Testament. Second reading from the New Testament. A Gospel reading).
•When finished the one who presides (the Priest) admonishes and challenges them to imitate those beautiful things (the Homily).
•Then we rise and pray for ourselves and others (Prayers of the Faithful).
•Then someone brings bread and a cup of water and wine mixed together to he who presides. He takes them, offers praise and glory to the Father of the universe and through the name of the Son and the Holy Spirit (the Consecration)
•When he has concluded the prayers and thanksgivings, all present give voice to an acclamation by saying: Amen. (the Great Amen)
•When he who presides has given thanks and the people have responded, those whom we call deacons give to those present the eucharisted bread, wine and water (Communion)
•And take them to those who are absent. (Eucharistic Ministers)
 
For non-Catholics, St. Justin’s description is a synopsis of the current Catholic Mass. St. Justin also states in his first apology, that this “Eucharistic bread” is transmutated, or what we call now transubstantiated, into the body and blood of Jesus.

This isn’t something St. Justin made up! He would have been called a heretic! St. Justin was merely stating that which was already in place. And since he was a direct follower of the Apostles, it had to have been instituted by them.

You may ask “Why doesn’t it taste like flesh and blood? It still tastes like bread and wine.”

Remember, we are limited creatures, with limited senses and limited understanding. But ask yourself this… are you prepared to state that:

•God as God can create the universe and all you know
•God as Jesus can walk on water, calm the storms, cast out demons, heal the sick and turn a few loaves of bread and a few fish into enough to feed thousands
•But God as the Holy Spirit can’t turn this bread and wine into the body and blood of Jesus, yet allow the taste to remain as our limited senses can comprehend it?
God’s power is limitless. It’s our humanity that is limited.

And the beauty of the Mass is that we believe, when we celebrate the Eucharist, that we are not re-creating or acting like Jesus at the Last Supper, but that we are actually present at the Last Supper! God is not bound by time! When we consume the Eucharist, we are sitting with the Apostles at the Last Supper, in a timeless universe with Jesus offering us eternal salvation through his literal sacrifice!

What a beautiful gift! What a wonderful blessing!

So, there you have it. God instituted Passover. Jesus fulfills Passover. The Holy Spirit makes the Eucharist available at every Mass. Even with that understanding, it still takes belief, it still takes faith, to fully appreciate it.

Borrowed from SonLight Picture’s Blog.
 
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“A simple man-made term “transubstantiation” invented by a pagan living in a hut cannot explain the mystery of Holy Communion.”

I find this post insulting.Would you mind explaining yourself.After you’ve addressed my other posts of course.
 
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