Do Eastern Catholics have Eucharistic Adoration?

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When I was recently talking to a Byzantine Catholic (Ruthenian), she told me they do not have Eucharistic Adoration. If this is true, why not?
 
No. It is not a part of the liturgical heritage of the Byzantine Church, Catholic or Orthodox.

Perhaps there are churches here and there who have it, but you can also find churches here and there that kneel at the epiklesis :eek:

Do we have a reason for not adopting this tradition? yes, but this conversation has come up several times between eastern and western Catholics as well as Latin Catholics vs. Eastern Orthodox and it quickly degrades into the Eastern defense of their position being viewed as an attack on the Western tradition and everyone ends up feeling a bit defensive, from what I have witnessed.

In our view, Christ said “take, EAT, this is my body” etc, so that is what we do. We consume the Eucharist, as per His command, as ‘medicine for the journey’ and our own progression towards theosis. It is the ultimate sign of communion and reverence for God.
 
nschmitz10 said:
When I was recently talking to a Byzantine Catholic (Ruthenian), she told me they do not have Eucharistic Adoration. If this is true, why not?
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It’s my understanding that Roman Catholics do not venerate icons upon entering the church (if they even have any icons). If this is true, why not?
 
All Eastern Catholics and Orthodox have Eucharistic Adoration. We do not have a separate ritual or devotional for it, except where modified due to latinisations.

All of our Churches adore Christ in His Eucharistic Presence at the Processional Elevation after the Invocation of the Holy Spirit:
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RyanBlack said:
It’s my understanding that Roman Catholics do not venerate icons upon entering the church (if they even have any icons). If this is true, why not?
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RyanBlack,

Icons may be venerated by Roman Catholics, however, the veneration of icons are not Latin tradition. Rather, stained glass depicted images of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Saints and Jesus. I personally have an Eastern icon in my house that I venerate. Roman Catholics are certainly allowed to venerate icons, however it isn’t part of the worship during Mass.

I recommend reading this thread: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=552168
 
nschmitz10 said:
RyanBlack,

Icons may be venerated by Roman Catholics, however, the veneration of icons are not Latin tradition. Rather, stained glass depicted images of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Saints and Jesus. I personally have an Eastern icon in my house that I venerate. Roman Catholics are certainly allowed to venerate icons, however it isn’t part of the worship during Mass.

I recommend reading this thread: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=552168
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I think that was Ryan’s point. Eucharistic adoration outside of the Divine Liturgy is a foreign tradition for the Eastern churches. It was practiced in the past but as we easterners are working to reclaim our traditions we are abandoning foreign ones.
 
MonkMoses said:
I think that was Ryan’s point. Eucharistic adoration outside of the Divine Liturgy is a foreign tradition for the Eastern churches. It was practiced in the past but as we easterners are working to reclaim our traditions we are abandoning foreign ones.
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Oh, I understand now. Don’t you think the Latin Church could incorporate Eastern traditions and vice versa? I really like the Eastern liturgy and Eastern tradition, but love the devotions in the Latin Church.
 
nschmitz10 said:
Oh, I understand now. Don’t you think the Latin Church could incorporate Eastern traditions and vice versa? I really like the Eastern liturgy and Eastern tradition, but love the devotions in the Latin Church.
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No we are not to mix traditions. Eastern traditions in Eastern Churches, Latin traditions in Latin Churches.
 
nschmitz10 said:
RyanBlack,

Icons may be venerated by Roman Catholics, however, the veneration of icons are not Latin tradition. Rather, stained glass depicted images of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Saints and Jesus. I personally have an Eastern icon in my house that I venerate. Roman Catholics are certainly allowed to venerate icons, however it isn’t part of the worship during Mass.
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That is my exact point. Roman Catholic parishes do not venerate icons because it is not part of their liturgical tradition, just as Eucharistic Adoration is not part of the Byzantine tradition.
 
MonkMoses said:
No we are not to mix traditions. Eastern traditions in Eastern Churches, Latin traditions in Latin Churches.
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But we are the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. The Universal Church founded by Jesus and his disciples 2000 years ago. I don’t think that the East should be Latinized nor should the West be Easternized nor should a syncretic form of the two be made.
 
RyanBlack said:
That is my exact point. Roman Catholic parishes do not venerate icons because it is not part of their liturgical tradition, just as Eucharistic Adoration is not part of the Byzantine tradition.
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I understand.
 
MonkMoses said:
No we are not to mix traditions. Eastern traditions in Eastern Churches, Latin traditions in Latin Churches.
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Wait, sorry if this is a stupid question, but I just wanted to make sure, can individuals mix though? I’m Latin Catholic, but there are some Eastern devotions that I really love and use in my own prayer life. Is that ok?
 
I never said I wanted the expressions of faith to be identical. I understand now, we shouldn’t mix traditions. Pope John Paul II made that clear.
 
Robyn_p said:
Wait, can individuals mix though? I’m Latin Catholic, but there are some Eastern devotions that I really love and use in my own prayer life. Is that ok?
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I think individuals should be able to mix though. I use a lot of Eastern devotions.
 
nschmitz10 said:
Oh, I understand now. Don’t you think the Latin Church could incorporate Eastern traditions and vice versa? I really like the Eastern liturgy and Eastern tradition, but love the devotions in the Latin Church.
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No, this is a very bad idea. Traditions do not develop in a vacuum. Eastern traditions reflect the Eastern theology and spirituality of the church they are apart of, just like Latin traditions reflect western spirituality and theology. The two are not interchangeable and mixing only leads to the traditions of one church pushing out the traditions of the other. For example Eastern churches who pray the western rosary in replacement of orthos before liturgy. Remember, Eastern Catholics are not Latin Catholics with a funny mass.

That is not to say we cannot learn from each other. We can and we should, as we are all part of one communion.
 
newlywed8 said:
No, this is a very bad idea. Traditions do not develop in a vacuum. Eastern traditions reflect the Eastern theology and spirituality of the church they are apart of, just like Latin traditions reflect western spirituality and theology. The two are not interchangeable and mixing only leads to the traditions of one church pushing out the traditions of the other. For example Eastern churches who pray the western rosary in replacement of orthos before liturgy. Remember, Eastern Catholics are not Latin Catholics with a funny mass.

That is not to say we cannot learn from each other. We can and we should, as we are all part of one communion.
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I agree completely. However, I belief in individual prayer life, mixing them is entirely acceptable.
 
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