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Aramis
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The Russian Orthodox calendar at the time of the formation of the Exarchate should be the one. Plus any saints added since by the Catholic Church.
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BusterMartin
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I can see where my question would be confusing. I’m just really looking for a link to such calendar. I keep googling for a Russian Catholic calendar but can’t find one (same for Russian Orthodox from 1905 (or something like that)). Suggestions?
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5Loaves
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Since we are so few parishes in the world and without a heirarch I don’t think you can find anything unified for us. As far as my parish, our liturgy and fasting calendar is on our website. It only shows major Feasts.
At the end of each year we all are given the "St Tikhon’s Lectionary Wall Calendar According to the Revised Julian ‘New’ Calendar", put out by STS Press.
(Interesting I see from their website that instead of using Holy Icons on the months this coming year, they will be featuring “scenes from St. Tikhon’s Monastery”.
We follow that St Tikhon’s Lectionary Wall Calendar, which the OCA Liturgical Music and Texts follows. We use their Liturgical Music and Texts. The saints are the same as the ROCOR except they are on the Old Calendar all year, and we and OCA are on the Julian for Pascha, but new Calendar outside of the Paschalion.
I don’t know if that is any help to you BusterMartin. We are heading to LA tomorrow for the Encounter 2012 so if I think of it when we are at St. Andrew Russian Greek Catholic Church in El Segundo during the Encounter I will ask what they do for a calendar in terms of saints.
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BusterMartin
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Thanks so much for this info! The liturgy and fasting calendar you mentioned is at least a start. I see you will be remembering St. Herman of Alaska in December - good to see!
Regarding St. Tikhon’s wall calendar, I do get one of those every year from my local OCA parish, so I am familiar with that. If you happen to mention anything at the Encounter about a calendar of saints, I’d love to hear what the answer was!
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theistgal
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I love Saint Elizabeth too! Saint Elizabeth Fedorovna aka The New Martyr was a relative of Tsar Nicholas. She and others in her household were thrown down an abandoned mineshaft and left to die.
According to the history, some of the Bolsheviks who had done this heard her down below, singing a hymn (some say it was the Cherubic Hymn*), and it is known from the position of the bodies when they were recovered that she bandaged the wounds of one of the others with her handkerchief.
A very brave woman who kept her faith to the end. (And btw she was a convert from Lutheranism.)
According to the history, some of the Bolsheviks who had done this heard her down below, singing a hymn (some say it was the Cherubic Hymn*), and it is known from the position of the bodies when they were recovered that she bandaged the wounds of one of the others with her handkerchief.
A very brave woman who kept her faith to the end. (And btw she was a convert from Lutheranism.)
- “Let us who mystically
represent the Cherubim,
and sing the thrice-holy hymn
to the life-creating Trinity
now set aside all earthly cares.”
St Cyril of Alexandria was present at the Synod of the Oak, as a Reader, when his uncle, Pope Theophilus of Alexandria, deposed St John Chrysostom. St Cyril of Alexandria supported the deposition of St John Chrysostom for most of his life. He later, due to Divine intervention, realized his error and added St John Chrysostom to the diptychs.
See the story here: johnsanidopoulos.com/2010/06/reconciliation-between-st-cyril-of.html
All Saints have made errors (even grave ones) in their lifetimes. If a Saint is truly a man of God, I’d support him even if he was in error about his views of the Catholic Church.
I personally venerate the Oriental Saint, Severus of Antioch. I have read his writings and believe that he was misunderstood by the Catholic Church. St Severus basically only repeated the words of St Cyril of Alexandria in his writings. There are no formal anathemas against St Severus of Antioch (like Origin, Nestorius, etc).
“He did not take the flesh into the fulness of his own divine nature and mix it with it, nor did he mingle it with his own Godhead, but that in the dispensatory assumption we might understand him to be not without flesh, Emmanuel being wonderfully composed and consisting of two elements, the Godhead and the manhood: but even so he preserved the absence, of mixture in the divine essence, and did not change the essence of the Godhead into the nature of flesh.” - St Severus of Antioch, Letter 25
See the story here: johnsanidopoulos.com/2010/06/reconciliation-between-st-cyril-of.html
All Saints have made errors (even grave ones) in their lifetimes. If a Saint is truly a man of God, I’d support him even if he was in error about his views of the Catholic Church.
I personally venerate the Oriental Saint, Severus of Antioch. I have read his writings and believe that he was misunderstood by the Catholic Church. St Severus basically only repeated the words of St Cyril of Alexandria in his writings. There are no formal anathemas against St Severus of Antioch (like Origin, Nestorius, etc).
“He did not take the flesh into the fulness of his own divine nature and mix it with it, nor did he mingle it with his own Godhead, but that in the dispensatory assumption we might understand him to be not without flesh, Emmanuel being wonderfully composed and consisting of two elements, the Godhead and the manhood: but even so he preserved the absence, of mixture in the divine essence, and did not change the essence of the Godhead into the nature of flesh.” - St Severus of Antioch, Letter 25
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Axiosaxiosaxios
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Just curious did anyone mention to the OP that our late blessed Pope of Rome refereed to St. Seraphim of Sarov as a saint?
We are allowed to personally venerate great holy great men of Christ Jesus who have not been canonized. To celebrate a St Seraphim of Sarov in a formal liturgical function such as a Divine Liturgy or Mass would carry greater weight. An example being that the Melkite Catholic Church celebrates the feast of St Gregory Palamas.
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BusterMartin
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I don’t know about that, but I did mention (here) that he is (to my knowledge) officially venerated in the Russian Catholic Church.
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