Do I get double the graces if I receive Jesus twice: 1 eastern rite divine liturgy 1 english roman rite mass in 1 day?

[Loyal_J]

Do I get double the graces if I receive Jesus twice: 1 eastern rite divine liturgy 1 english roman rite in 1 day? A priest said receiving Jesus twice in one day didn’t give more graces then receiving him once a day because the readings are the same so it’s the same mass. He said that I could go to funeral masses to get the graces twice in a day.

Thanks.

 

[ConstantineTG]

Receiving twice in one day is no problem.

 

[WingsOfEagles]

You are no more blessed than receiving it once.

 

[triumphguy]

Yes.

 

[Denho]

Yes.

Be careful with this type of assertion. It’s not in our disposition to weigh graces like spare change as it is in more scrupulous Latin persuasions.

Receiving communion once is more than sufficient.

 

[5Loaves]

Do I get double the graces if I receive Jesus twice: 1 eastern rite divine liturgy 1 english roman rite in 1 day? A priest said receiving Jesus twice in one day didn’t give more graces then receiving him once a day because the readings are the same so it’s the same mass. He said that I could go to funeral masses to get the graces twice in a day.

Thanks.

Grace cannot be quantified so getting “double the grace” doesn’t make sence.

The Code of Canon Law for the Latin Church allows for the reception of Holy Eucharist twice in a day only if the reception in both instances is within a Mass in which one is an active participant. You may not receive at what Latin Church parishes call a “Communion Service”, when the reserved Sacrament is administered, and also receive in a Mass.

The readings used in the Mass have no effect. You may receive in two Masses in one day with the same readings, or in two Masses with different readings-- one Latin ordinary readings, one Latin parish patronal feast day readings, one Dominican feast readings, or Eastern Catholic or one funeral, or some other reason for readings that may be other than the ordinary ones for that day. That has no relevance.

 

[Francie3]

Only God knows how much grace is given to anyone or even ourselves.

Only God knows the state of soul of any person, and as the poster before me stated,
“Grace cannot be quantified”.

May God bless you abundantly.

 

[chaldobyzantine]

You may attend both a mass and a liturgy in the same day, but that does seem redundant. It would be extremely redundant to receive the Eucharist twice. Christ is present in the Eucharist, and through receiving Him already, what would be the benefit of receiving him again in such a short period of time?

He is present within you and you should pray to be closer to Him through this sacrament, not to receive graces as a number, thinking similarly to the great flaw of indulgences making up for a number of sins. People often do abstain from taking the Eucharist when they either have already attended liturgy or have not yet confessed before one.

The readings also are not similar, each rite has its own calendar. If you would like any more info, do not hesitate to ask more questions my friend

God Bless

 

[BamaCatholic2]

Grace cannot be quantified so getting “double the grace” doesn’t make sence.

The Code of Canon Law for the Latin Church allows for the reception of Holy Eucharist twice in a day only if the reception in both instances is within a Mass in which one is an active participant. You may not receive at what Latin Church parishes call a “Communion Service”, when the reserved Sacrament is administered, and also receive in a Mass.

The readings used in the Mass have no effect. You may receive in two Masses in one day with the same readings, or in two Masses with different readings-- one Latin ordinary readings, one Latin parish patronal feast day readings, one Dominican feast readings, or Eastern Catholic or one funeral, or some other reason for readings that may be other than the ordinary ones for that day. That has no relevance.

The Canon in the Latin Church allowing for the reception of the Holy Eucharist twice in one day does not require that both instances of reception be within a Mass in which a person actively participates.

The Canon requires that to receive a second time in the same day, the second reception must be within a Mass in which you participate.

The first reception of the day can be outside of Mass (e.g., a “Communion Service”, receiving along with a family member who is receiving the Anointing of the Sick, etc.). Or, it can be within a Mass in which you participate.

The relevant Canon is Can. 917. It contains no directive regarding the context of the first reception of the day.

 

[5Loaves]

The Canon in the Latin Church allowing for the reception of the Holy Eucharist twice in one day does not require that both instances of reception be within a Mass in which a person actively participates.

The Canon requires that to receive a second time in the same day, the second reception must be within a Mass in which you participate.

The first reception of the day can be outside of Mass (e.g., a “Communion Service”, receiving along with a family member who is receiving the Anointing of the Sick, etc.). Or, it can be within a Mass in which you participate.

The relevant Canon is Can. 917. It contains no directive regarding the context of the first reception of the day.

Canon 917 of the Latin Church makes no mention of so called “Communion Services”.

Can. 917 A person who has already received the Most Holy Eucharist can receive it a second time on the same day only within the eucharistic celebration in which the person participates, without prejudice to the prescript of ⇒ can. 921, §2

Many commentaries specify both receptions being Mass, except for Viaticum as stipulated in Can 921 §2.
One example
Another example

I prefer to not pursue arguing further about this. This thread belongs elsewhere on the CAF. It has nothing to do with Eastern Catholicism. OP is a Latin Catholic asking about the Latin Church.
The topic isn’t addressed in our Canon Law, with good reason.

 

[Vico]

Canon 917 of the Latin Church makes no mention of so called “Communion Services”.

Many commentaries specify both receptions being Mass, except for Viaticum as stipulated in Can 921 §2.
One example
Another example

I prefer to not pursue arguing further about this. This thread belongs elsewhere on the CAF. It has nothing to do with Eastern Catholicism. OP is a Latin Catholic asking about the Latin Church.
The topic isn’t addressed in our Canon Law, with good reason.

The other relevant CIC Canon is**:

Can. 918 **
It is highly recommended that the faithful receive holy communion during the eucharistic celebration itself. It is to be administered outside the Mass, however, to those who request it for a just cause, with the liturgical rites being observed.

 

[Nine_Two]

The OP brings to mind a question: Is grace a quantifiable substance in the Catholic Church?

 

[mardukm]

The OP brings to mind a question: Is grace a quantifiable substance in the Catholic Church?

Is this really the issue?. We know that we can experience an increase in Grace, so Grace is obviously quantifiable.

The main objection I had with the Catholic system (when I was not yet in the Catholic communion) was the idea that we can obligate God to grant us Grace by the mere performance of a work. It took me a while to understand that the mere performance of the work is not what obtains the Grace in Catholic teaching, but I’m sure there are many Catholics who perceive it that way. So it wasn’t the idea that Grace is quantifiable that bothered me, but rather that Grace was some sort of legal tender.

Blessings,
Marduk

 

[POJIUJH]

It was my understanding that since the change to allow communion twice in a day came at the same time vigil Masses were introduced that it is only applicable to receive a second time at a vigil. Isn’t that right?

 

[Vico]

Do I get double the graces if I receive Jesus twice: 1 eastern rite divine liturgy 1 english roman rite in 1 day? A priest said receiving Jesus twice in one day didn’t give more graces then receiving him once a day because the readings are the same so it’s the same mass. He said that I could go to funeral masses to get the graces twice in a day.

Thanks.

Yes, you will be nourished twice. This is supernatural intervention by God that we may live a holy life. (The western concept is called actual graces.)

 

[Nine_Two]

Is this really the issue?. We know that we can experience an increase in Grace, so Grace is obviously quantifiable.

The main objection I had with the Catholic system (when I was not yet in the Catholic communion) was the idea that we can obligate God to grant us Grace by the mere performance of a work. It took me a while to understand that the mere performance of the work is not what obtains the Grace in Catholic teaching, but I’m sure there are many Catholics who perceive it that way. So it wasn’t the idea that Grace is quantifiable that bothered me, but rather that Grace was some sort of legal tender.

Blessings,
Marduk

No, it’s not “the issue”, it’s a question that I’ve never considered before and which came to me when I read the OP’s post. Not every question is an attack on the Catholic Church.

 

[Cavaradossi]

Is this really the issue?. We know that we can experience an increase in Grace, so Grace is obviously quantifiable.

The main objection I had with the Catholic system (when I was not yet in the Catholic communion) was the idea that we can obligate God to grant us Grace by the mere performance of a work. It took me a while to understand that the mere performance of the work is not what obtains the Grace in Catholic teaching, but I’m sure there are many Catholics who perceive it that way. So it wasn’t the idea that Grace is quantifiable that bothered me, but rather that Grace was some sort of legal tender.

Blessings,
Marduk

Nine_Two is not alone in having this question. See: forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=10042829&postcount=8. Not everything posted by Orthodox posters is polemical.

 

[mardukm]

Who said anything about “an attack?” Who said anything about being “polemical?” Who is being polemical here? Can we get back to discussing the issue please?

Blessings,
Marduk

 

[Nine_Two]

Who said anything about “an attack?” Who said anything about being “polemical?” Who is being polemical here? Can we get back to discussing the issue please?

Blessings,
Marduk

Your defensive stance indicated you took it that way. Perhaps I should start another thread though since it is a digression. I’m just not sure where to start it, since it isn’t an Eastern Catholic only issue.

 

[mardukm]

Your defensive stance indicated you took it that way. Perhaps I should start another thread though since it is a digression. I’m just not sure where to start it, since it isn’t an Eastern Catholic only issue.

I think it is a legitimate Eastern Catholic issue. We could have continued the discussion on what was meant my “quantifiable,” perhaps gotten into the issue of created Grace versus uncreated Grace. Can we do this without maudlin comments trying to divine the motives of other posters?

Blessings,
Marduk