Do i have the right to conscientious objection

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I am a secondary School or high school student and I study biology.
we are on a chapter that teaches about darwinism and eveloution and i will not partake in the class for obviouse reasons.
now for a nother twist to the story neither of my pearents are praticing catholics (this also worries me)
Is this ok
that is for me not to partake in the class…:confused:
 
Knowledge is good. Never give up the opportunity to learn something. It will assist you in knowing WHY you believe what you believe, and to support your argument by knowing both sides of the discussion.

You can still take the class and not feel that you are betraying your beliefs or your Faith. In fact, you may have an opportunity to speak to others about why you do not believe some of the material the teacher may be presenting.

Stay strong in your Faith, learn new things, and become a well rounded and educated Catholic who can fight the good fight! You can’t tell someone why you don’t agree with evolutionism if you have never studied it. Just as you can’t tell someone why you are Catholic if you don’t know anything about it.

~Liza
 
Getting to know your adversary is the first step to defeating him. It’s why baseball teams have advanced scouts 😃
 
Darwin’s theory is still an unproven theory. It’s got valuable knowledge in it, and it’s perfectly all right to believe it as long as you believe that God had a hand in creation (since we still don’t know how God did create people). Since for God “a day is like a thousand years”, what one sees in evolutionary theory could easily be kind of like… well, Claymation, with God “molding” things into more specialized versions.
Just take it. Evolution and Catholic doctrine are compatible; it’s just materialistic Darwinism that’s not Christian.
 
Genesis315 said:
Getting to know your adversary is the first step to defeating him. It’s why baseball teams have advanced scouts 😃
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Totally agree but only if you are knowledgeable in your own faith, and very strong!!! If you are a soldier for Christ and are well trained and grounded in Him then you are ready for battle in the secular world, but if not then the great tempter will chew you up and spit you out like a rag doll. Baseball teams have advanced scouts and they do not consist of Joe Blow fan who drinks seven beers at the game and thinks he is the ultimate baseball guru.
 
Whatever you do, remember, science by its OWN definition has a limited say about the universe. It is limited by our own five senses and the dimensions we can observe.

Study metaphysies for balance.
 
operaboz said:
I am a secondary School or high school student and I study biology.
we are on a chapter that teaches about darwinism and eveloution and i will not partake in the class for obviouse reasons.
now for a nother twist to the story neither of my pearents are praticing catholics (this also worries me)
Is this ok
that is for me not to partake in the class…:confused:
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If you do not participate, the consequence will be a failing grade no doubt.

Instead, why don’t you get several books that discuss the weakenesses in Darwin’ theory and bring them up for discussion.

Icons of Evolution, by Jonathan Wells:

iconsofevolution.com/

Here’s an excellent website with resources:

strengthsandweaknesses.org/

Remember, evolution as a whole is not necessarily incompatible with Catholic teaching. And, let’s not be afraid to engage in the learning process and debate topics on their merits.

There are some very specific parts of the overal evolution sciences that are definitely incompatible-- they are more ideology than science. Darwinism and Neo-Darwinism are not quite the same thing as “evolution”, but they are sometimes used interchangeably. There is certainly room for evolutionary mechanisms in how God works in the world. Micro-evolution, especially, has been shown to occur. Macro-evolution, and more specifically the “common descent” portion of Darwinism and the “random” (God-denying) elements are incompatible.

You could learn a great deal, and probably get your classmates (if not your teacher) to think critically about what they are taught in science textbooks.

Good luck.
 
If you are a minor your parents make the decisions about your education. You are free to tell them why you object to this class, and you should be prepared with valid arguments, not just your presonal feelings and opinions, but they will make the decision. you will have a very difficult time in future apologetics discussion on this topic if you don’t study it in the context of what the mainstream teaches about it.
 
Neither Darwin’s theories, nor the Theory of Evolution are odds with Catholic beliefs.

Please review the teachings of the late Holy Father Pope John Paul II on the topic.
 
MusicMan said:
Neither Darwin’s theories, nor the Theory of Evolution are odds with Catholic beliefs.

Please review the teachings of the late Holy Father Pope John Paul II on the topic.
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Any materialistic evolutionary theory is indeed at odds with the Church.
 
operaboz said:
I am a secondary School or high school student and I study biology.
we are on a chapter that teaches about darwinism and eveloution and i will not partake in the class for obviouse reasons.
now for a nother twist to the story neither of my pearents are praticing catholics (this also worries me)
Is this ok
that is for me not to partake in the class…:confused:
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No. Learn the science. If you want Religion, go talk to your priest or youth pastor or take a Religious Studies class. It doesn’t belong in a science classroom.

Besides, evolution is perfectly compatible with Genesis in Catholicism.
 
MusicMan said:
Neither Darwin’s theories, nor the Theory of Evolution are odds with Catholic beliefs.

Please review the teachings of the late Holy Father Pope John Paul II on the topic.
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Absolutely right. I think Greek has two words for time-Chronos (meaning 24 hour time) and krainosmeaning God’s time.So there is no real problem with Darwin’s basic theory as these days are periods of God’s time. Secondly St Augustine has the view that what ever is taught by the church must take note of scientific knowledge. There is a summary of St Augustine and Creation on the web if you google it. Remember the second creation story in Genesis Chapter 2 is older. Also :bear in mind (by googling Big bang on Wikipedia etc. that scientists have no idea what started 😛 the big bang-it is a mystery to them too!)
 
There is nothing wrong with learning about Darwin and the theory of evolution. It may even be true.
 
MusicMan said:
You are mistaken. Pope John Paul II taught on this topic. I believe it is even addressed in the current Catechism.
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Show me ANY church document that supports materialistic evolution - that is without God.
 
Do not mistake the purpose of science with the purpose of theology. Science is concerned with how things happen; theology is concerned with Who causes things to happen.

Study science for the truth that it can provide about the world around you; study theology to learn about how to respond to the world around you.

PS If you have TB or syphylus, would you rather have the new antibiotics to kill the disease, or the old antibiotics which the diseases have evolved to resist?

Matthew
 
drafdog said:
PS If you have TB or syphylus, would you rather have the new antibiotics to kill the disease, or the old antibiotics which the diseases have evolved to resist?

Matthew
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PS If you have TB or syphylus, would you rather have the new antibiotics to kill the disease, or the old antibiotics which the diseases have mutated to resist?
 
operaboz said:
I am a secondary School or high school student and I study biology.
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There is nothing immoral about studying evolution. OTOH, you do have a moral obligation to do what your teachers tell you to do. Failing to do so violates the Fourth Commandment.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
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