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I received the following private message in response to one of my posts, in which I indicated that the Jews need to covert to be saved. The person who pm’d me also posted the same argument publicly, so I don’t think they will mind my publicly posting their pm.
Yerusalyim:
I only hope that once the truth has been shown, these well meaning, but deceived, Catholics will renounce this error while there is still time. I’ll begin with a quote from the infallible council of Florence when this dogma was defined de fide.
Council of Florence: It [the Catholic Church] firmly believes, professes, and teaches that the matter pertaining to the law of the Old Testament, of the Mosaic law, which are divided into ceremonies, sacred rites, sacrifices, and sacraments, because they were established to signify something in the future, although they were suited to the divine worship at that time, after our Lord’s coming had been signified by them, ceased, and the sacraments of the New Testament began; and that whoever, even after the passion, placed hope in these matters of the law and submitted himself to them as necessary for salvation, as if faith in Christ could not save without them, sinned mortally. Yet it does not deny that after the passion of Christ up to the promulgation of the Gospel they could have been observed until they were believed to be in no way necessary for salvation;** but after the promulgation of the Gospel it asserts that they cannot be observed without the loss of eternal salvation**. All, therefore, who after that time observe circumcision and the Sabbath and the other requirements of the law, it declares alien to the Christian faith and not in the least fit to participate in eternal salvation, unless someday they recover from these errors."
This 2000 year old teaching of the Church, which was infallibly defined above, was also taught by Pope Pius XII in the encyclical Mystici Corporis Christi just before Vatican II:
Pope Pius XII: "And first of all, by the death of our Redeemer, the New Testament took the place of the Old Law which had been abolished; then the Law of Christ together with its mysteries, enactments, institutions, and sacred rites was ratified for the whole world in the blood of Jesus Christ. For, while our Divine Savior was preaching in a restricted area – He was not sent but to the sheep that were lost of the house of Israel -the Law and the Gospel were together in force; but on the gibbet of his death Jesus made void the Law with its decrees, fastened the handwriting of the Old Testament to the Cross, establishing the New Testament in His blood shed for the whole human race. “To such an extent, then,” says St. Leo the Great, speaking of the Cross of our Lord, “was there effected a transfer from the Law to the Gospel, from the Synagogue to the Church, from many sacrifices to one Victim, that, as our Lord expired, that mystical veil which shut off the innermost part of the temple and its sacred secret was rent violently from top to bottom.” (Mystici Corporis, #29).
I’ll end with one additional quote from Dr. Ludwig Ott’s Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma (pg 292, published just before Vatican II:
Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma: “On the Cross, Christ consummated the building of the Church. The Old Covenant ceased and the New Covenant sealed with the blood of Christ began. The Fathers and theologians see in the flowing forth of the blood and water from the opened side of Jesus a symbol the emergence of the Church.”
This is what the Church has taught from day one. The unfortunate fact that many of our Church leaders are heretics who deny this dogma does not make it go away. It is just as true today as it was when it was infallibly defined as a dogma of the Faith at the Council of Florence. Anyone who denies a dogma is therefore a heretic. This brings up the last quote which not only confirms that the Jews must convert to be saved, but places those who deny this dogma (the heretics) in the same unfortunate eternal fate as the unbelieving Jews.
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Before responding, let me say that I realize why many people have been deceived on this point. After all, for nearly 40 years our fearless Church leaders have given every reason to believe that the old Covenant “has never been revoked by God”. This heresy has even been enshrined in local catechisms, and publicly promoted from the highest levels of the Church. Therefore, it is understandable that many well meaning Catholics would have fallen into this heresy… thanks to the heretics in high places within the Church.Your Response to the question of Jews needing to convert was spot on WRONG. You need to become aware of what the Church actually teaches rather than giving your own opinion…respectfully
I only hope that once the truth has been shown, these well meaning, but deceived, Catholics will renounce this error while there is still time. I’ll begin with a quote from the infallible council of Florence when this dogma was defined de fide.
Council of Florence: It [the Catholic Church] firmly believes, professes, and teaches that the matter pertaining to the law of the Old Testament, of the Mosaic law, which are divided into ceremonies, sacred rites, sacrifices, and sacraments, because they were established to signify something in the future, although they were suited to the divine worship at that time, after our Lord’s coming had been signified by them, ceased, and the sacraments of the New Testament began; and that whoever, even after the passion, placed hope in these matters of the law and submitted himself to them as necessary for salvation, as if faith in Christ could not save without them, sinned mortally. Yet it does not deny that after the passion of Christ up to the promulgation of the Gospel they could have been observed until they were believed to be in no way necessary for salvation;** but after the promulgation of the Gospel it asserts that they cannot be observed without the loss of eternal salvation**. All, therefore, who after that time observe circumcision and the Sabbath and the other requirements of the law, it declares alien to the Christian faith and not in the least fit to participate in eternal salvation, unless someday they recover from these errors."
This 2000 year old teaching of the Church, which was infallibly defined above, was also taught by Pope Pius XII in the encyclical Mystici Corporis Christi just before Vatican II:
Pope Pius XII: "And first of all, by the death of our Redeemer, the New Testament took the place of the Old Law which had been abolished; then the Law of Christ together with its mysteries, enactments, institutions, and sacred rites was ratified for the whole world in the blood of Jesus Christ. For, while our Divine Savior was preaching in a restricted area – He was not sent but to the sheep that were lost of the house of Israel -the Law and the Gospel were together in force; but on the gibbet of his death Jesus made void the Law with its decrees, fastened the handwriting of the Old Testament to the Cross, establishing the New Testament in His blood shed for the whole human race. “To such an extent, then,” says St. Leo the Great, speaking of the Cross of our Lord, “was there effected a transfer from the Law to the Gospel, from the Synagogue to the Church, from many sacrifices to one Victim, that, as our Lord expired, that mystical veil which shut off the innermost part of the temple and its sacred secret was rent violently from top to bottom.” (Mystici Corporis, #29).
I’ll end with one additional quote from Dr. Ludwig Ott’s Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma (pg 292, published just before Vatican II:
Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma: “On the Cross, Christ consummated the building of the Church. The Old Covenant ceased and the New Covenant sealed with the blood of Christ began. The Fathers and theologians see in the flowing forth of the blood and water from the opened side of Jesus a symbol the emergence of the Church.”
This is what the Church has taught from day one. The unfortunate fact that many of our Church leaders are heretics who deny this dogma does not make it go away. It is just as true today as it was when it was infallibly defined as a dogma of the Faith at the Council of Florence. Anyone who denies a dogma is therefore a heretic. This brings up the last quote which not only confirms that the Jews must convert to be saved, but places those who deny this dogma (the heretics) in the same unfortunate eternal fate as the unbelieving Jews.
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Amen! 