I’ll just add one thing to this: The husband knows his wife’s “temple name” but the wife is not allowed to know her husband’s “temple name”. If the husband judges his wife unworthy and decides not to take her into his kingdom, there is nothing she can do about it, because she doesn’t know his celestial name.
Majick275, I don’t know what’s with you. Most of the time you seem to be an intelligent and well informed person but then you go off the cliff. What are you saying here, that the Mormon heaven is really the devil’s? That’s just crazy talk and you know it! I think you try to reason intelligently for awhile just so you can get your little digs in. Kind of like that guy who tells a million truths to get you to believe that one lie !!! Now who does that and what is his plan?
He never mentioned the devil, do you have a complex?
I had to chuckle at this too… Apparently… according to majick275 God is the Devil.
…Here we go again–modern “scripture” changing the meaning of ancient scripture.
Now you say I’m a racist and ignorant. Great debate technique–boy you got me listening now.
Nobody doubts this is true. What I’m saying is that Abraham took Hagar as a concubine out of a lack of faith in God’s promiss that Sarah would become pregnant and bear Abraham a son. It was Sarah who convinced him to do it, not God. It was Sarah’s lack of faith that led her to doubt God’s promiss that ***she ***would bear a son. The point of the story was that Abraham and Sarah jumped the gun when they decided on their own way to beget offspring rather than trusting in the Lord’s promiss regarding Sarah. The result was a family in immediate conflict as soon as Isaac was born to Sarah. Isaac got the inheritance and the family name, not Ishmael. Abraham forced Hagar and Ishmael to leave. Like it or not, Ishmael is the founding father of the Arab race, and they have been in conflict with their Israeli brothers ever since.
How rude! if you read my post you see that our “job” will be to praise and glorify our Lord in whatever way HE chooses. Yes I have labored, still labor and intend to die with my boots on. If God wanted me to, I’d do it all through eternity as His obedient servant. HOWEVER, it does not seem to be His intention to have me bear thousands of spirit babies and raise them. There are enough posts in this thread to explain, I don’t need to waste my time. See you in the south corner of HEAVEN. 10/23/2095 for an “I told you so” session. Don’t bother to come back and tell me that there is no “time” in the “spirit world”, we all know that. I will ask an angel to remind me of the appointed time of our meeting.
The prodigal son didn’t sell his birthright for a bowl of stew, Esau did.Mormons don’t sell they’re birth right for a pot of stew. Like the Prodigal did. We are destined to become “what our father is himself”.
What do you mean… Kind of like the NT?
Luke 15: 13
I don’t plan on merely “seeing him afar off”. I plan on sitting down next to him as Christ did.
That fine with me if you don’t want to measure up to your define potential. Reminds me of the servant who hid his talent . He got everything taken away and ended up a servant too.
Do you just quote random scriptures when you write your posts? Because none of your quotes support the point you were trying to make.Chris-WA,
What do you mean… Kind of like the NT?
Matt. 5: 21
21 ¶ Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Matt. 5: 27
27 ¶ Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Matt. 5: 33
33 ¶ Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
Lev 11
5 And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
Acts 11: 8-9
8 But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth.
9 But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath acleansed, that call not thou common.
I wonder how many changes we can count that the Apostles made.
1 Cor. 14: 28
28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep asilence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
1 Cor. 14: 34
34 Let your awomen keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under dobedience, as also saith the law.
1 Tim. 2: 11
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1 Tim. 2: 12
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
Heck… I wonder how many verses Modern Churchs disregaurd completely!
Sorry Mom o’ 5, I really don’t understand what you’re trying to say. I think what you’re saying is that no one knows what heaven is like and cannot know. And then you say what it’s not like. Also, I dunno where that crack about bearing thousands of spirit babies came from.
You assume a belief in a “Mormon” Heaven. I do not. I beleive that Mormon teaching on exaltation is Satan’s original temptation “spun” to appear “godly”. I think that the emphasis on exalting the individual comes at the expense of WORSHIPPING God. I think some Mormons will end up in the REAL heaven and unfortunately some Catholics will not. I think the RCC provides significant advantages to those seeking God. Satan tries to counter this by tempting Catholics to not take advantage of this. The lazy Catholic will much to answer for. I think on the other hand the LDS church leads people away from the true gospel and makes it dificult for them to develpo the proper realtionship with God.
What about the verse Don’t support my position?
Lets work on your reading comprehension skills shall we?
I’ve been in your shoes before. Ive come to understand the principle that what God says goes. Even if that command goes against something that he commanded not to do earlier.
You very much “belong here,” especially as an ex-Catholic. If you genuinely have an opinion to express on the topics being discussed, you stay here and say it, and don’t let it trouble you what other people say. Most of the people whom you are complaining of are just apostates from LDS Church, and they are acting true to their character. They are not ordinary run of the mill Catholics. These do not manifest the same kind of spirit that the apostates do. There are enough honest and decent Catholics around here who from time to time ask honest and sincere questions for you to engage in a serious and responsible conversation. If somebody becomes mean spirited, malicious, or hateful, the answer is to simply ignore them, and only respond to posts that are not like that. It does not mean that you have lost the argument if you don’t respond to a malicious or hateful post. You should learn a lesson from Samuel the Lamanite. He didn’t stop delivering his message just because they shot arrows at him, and slung stones at him. He stood his ground and delivered his message, and the Lord protected him until he finished delivering it. You should do the same.
I have been here for nearly three months, and I have posted more than 300 posts. But so far I don’t recall having posted anything in response to “Mom of 5”. She has never said anything that felt I needed to respond to. If you don’t like how someone engages in a discussion, just don’t respond to them. That is easy enough.
You stay right here and say what you want to say, and don’t let any of that bother you.