Do Lutherans say the Nicean Creed?

[JP_Augustine]

Hi all,

My fiancee and I were out for a walk and we began talking about the Nicean Creed.

The question that came up in our discussion is this: Do Lutherans say the Nicean Creed, and if so, how do they understand the meaning of the words “catholic” and particularly “apostolic” with regard to their faith?

I did a search for this topic, but didn’t come up with anything…hoping someone might be able to help me out with this one.

Thanks!!

JP Augustine

 

[carol_marie]

In the LCMS I attended, we didn’t say the Nicean Creed, but rather the Apostles Creed. The word “Catholic” was changed to Christian*

At the bottom in fine print it said: *catholic - “universal”

 

[johnpaullover]

carol marie:

In the LCMS I attended, we didn’t say the Nicean Creed, but rather the Apostles Creed. The word “Catholic” was changed to Christian*

At the bottom in fine print it said: *catholic - “universal”

Diito, but they said the Nicene creed in the LCMS I went to.

 

[catsrus]

In the LCMS I attended, we didn’t say the Nicean Creed, but rather the Apostles Creed. The word “Catholic” was changed to Christian*

And the same was practiced in the ELC I attended for 30 years.

 

[whowantsumadebo]

At my LCMS, we said it. Also, at the ELCA around the block they say it every weekend. The word Catholic is in it, but of course, they rendered it 'c’atholic.

 

[Angainor]

JP Augustine:

The question that came up in our discussion is this: Do Lutherans say the Nicean Creed, and if so, how do they understand the meaning of the words “catholic” and particularly “apostolic” with regard to their faith?

Yes Lutherans say the Nicene Creed as well as the Athanasian Creed.

Click here starting on page 20 for an explination of understanding of catholic and apostolic.

 

[mark_a]

carol marie:

In the LCMS I attended, we didn’t say the Nicean Creed, but rather the Apostles Creed. The word “Catholic” was changed to Christian*

At the bottom in fine print it said: *catholic - “universal”

Is “the communion of saints” not a problem? Or is it defined differently than Catholics define it?

 

[gracelife]

mark a:

Is “the communion of saints” not a problem? Or is it defined differently than Catholics define it?

Defined differently yes: as in living members of the body of Christ and as all Christians being saints (little “s”).

 

[Thaumaturgos]

gracelife:

Defined differently yes: as in living members of the body of Christ and as all Christians being saints (little “s”).

rhats def. not true … we catholics and the lutherans, but maybe not the protestants, define the community of the saints as it was done by tradition. CoS means the community of heavenly liturgy, all departed and accepted into the heavens are the CoS

 

[drforjc]

In the LCMS we substituted “Christian” for “catholic” church."

 

[Madaglan]

I have a kind question for the Lutherans who visit this thread: why do Lutherans still include the filioque in the Creed? Have there been Lutherans who opted to remove the filioque from the Creed?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it the unilateral decision of a pope, after the filioque had spread across much of Western Europe, that made the filioque clause a normal part of the Creed, whereas it was and still is rejected in the Eastern tradition?

I’m just curious.

Also, in relation to this first question: what do Lutherans think of Byzantine Catholic/Eastern Orthodox theology as compared with Latin Catholic theology? I know that one of Luther didn’t like the scholastic mindset which was and still is to a degree present in Latin theology. And since the Byzantine way of doing theology is different from that of the West, I am wondering if Lutherans see any affinities in Byzantine Catholic theology.

Thank you!

 

[genealogist]

Look at your Missal the word is catholic not Catholic. Lutherans did not change it; you incorrectly assumed that anytime that word is used it should be capitalized.

 

[O.S.Luke]

United Methodists say the Apostles’ Creed and the Nicene Creed.

I don’t know about the Nicean Creed.

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