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yellowbird
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Do you think Jesus was the Messiah? Do you believe He was God? What do you make of Him rising from the dead?
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PlipPlop
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Cargo cults, Scientology, Heaven’s Gate, ones like those.
Ditto.
What makes you think you are entitled to believe that your God is the only true one, that you know the only right way to worship him, and that everyone who ever lived except a small minority (which includes you of course) was completely wrong?
No; as much as Buddha; didn’t happen. He was a great guy however.
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Eris_Discordia
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Do you practice meditation? Also, do you believe in the spiritual, as in spirits of any nature?
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PlipPlop
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Hey there Eris! Nice to see a Discordian, you’re all such nice folk.
Meditation, yes. It’s so helpful for clearing your mind and relaxing.
Spirits, not really. I do think we have a basic essence, which I talked about earlier (if you were a house that essence would be the concrete base), so I guess you could call that a “spirit”, but not much of one.
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Eris_Discordia
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Hey there Eris! Nice to see a Discordian, you’re all such nice folk.
Meditation, yes. It’s so helpful for clearing your mind and relaxing.
Spirits, not really. I do think we have a basic essence, which I talked about earlier (if you were a house that essence would be the concrete base), so I guess you could call that a “spirit”, but not much of one.
Thanks! I don’t know many Discordians, which is a shame. I’m glad you think well of us.
I do like meditation, do you have any good tips for it?
That does make sense. I believe in metaphysics, so I do practice a little bit of energy manipulation, but not much. Does your belief also apply to spirits like “ghosts” and “demons” and things of that nature?
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Usbek_de_Perse
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Do you believe in the devil?Hey there. Answering questions about religion always helps me clear my mind and solidify my beliefs. And, of course, people are curious. Please ask questions about my personal faith.
I am a pantheist, meaning I believe God is all and all is God.I guess one could call me a Hindu since I believe in Brahman (a pantheistic interpretation of God) and Dharma, which I try my best to live up to. Though a fairly heterodox Hindu.
Of course, given the nature of “Hinduism”, you could say everyone is a Hindu.
That should be good enough as a starting point, thanks for obliging me.
Edit: I have a pretty universalistic view, meaning (most) religions aren’t wrong, just different. The vast majority of religions are a way to get closer to God, whatever He/She/It is, and it’s between the individual and God to decide which is best for them.
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kalt
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If God kills God (all things are God), how does God survive? If all things are God, and God makes God sick, does God really get sick. If all things are God, then all things should get sick when God makes God sick. And when God kills God, God should die. If God is all things, then all things should die when God kills God.
If a man (God) is killed by cancer (God), then God is dead.
If a man (God) is killed by cancer (God), then God is dead.
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PlipPlop
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Meditation - no, I’m just starting out myself. If you have any tips they would be welcome.
I do like meditation, do you have any good tips for it?
That does make sense. I believe in metaphysics, so I do practice a little bit of energy manipulation, but not much. Does your belief also apply to spirits like “ghosts” and “demons” and things of that nature?
I don’t believe in ghosts, demons, devils, etc.
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Eris_Discordia
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Well, what works for me is just sitting in a quiet place, in the lotus position, and crossing your hands so that the index fingers are touching, and your ankles are crossed. Try to sit somewhere where you can rest your back, because it can get painful after a while. But I also just started. My boyfriend has been meditating since he was 13, so he’d be better at giving tips than I. I’ll ask him.Meditation - no, I’m just starting out myself. If you have any tips they would be welcome.
That answers my question.
I do, but I’m really weird with my beliefs. I think it’s all part of metaphysics, and that some beings exist outside of the physical realm. Plus, I’ve had some ghost experiences.*Edit to fix quotes.
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Young_Thinker
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I think that you would most likely “fit in” well with the Unitarian Universalists.
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Mark77
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PlipPlop, (FlipFlop?)Thanks guys.
I meant more ideas and the physical laws than events.
HIV, cancer, and pollution are a part of the world, so definitely a part of God, just not as particularly beautiful as the rest.
Pedophiles are people too, only with a particularly revolting and dangerous problem.
No, I do not. That’s because of transportation issues, though, otherwise I would like to attend the local Quaker meeting.
I was born Roman Catholic.
Well, I think it’s wrong, but to you it’s right and it gives you a close relationship with God, so a bit of both. Of course, you could be right and I could be wrong, but for some reason I just can’t get as close to God with that view.
Hope that made sense.
You wrote; **“Well, I think it’s wrong, but to you it’s right and it gives you a close relationship with God, so a bit of both. Of course, you could be right and I could be wrong, but for some reason I just can’t get as close to God with that view.
Hope that made sense.???”
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How can you say “I just can’t get as close to God with that view.” Do you, an imperfect creation of God, define God??
“We are dealing here with the vast question as to how we can and cannot know God, how we are related to God and how we can lose him. The arrogance that would make God an object and impose our laboratory conditions upon him is incapable of finding him. For it already implies that we deny God as God by placing ourselves above him, by discarding the whole dimension of love, of interior listening; by no longer acknowledging as real anything but what we can experimentally test and grasp. To think like that is to make oneself God. And to do that is to abase not only God, but the world and oneself, too.” “Jesus of Nazareth” Papa Benedictus XVI, (p. 37)
So if i believe you are the devil & must be destroyed & that gets me ‘closer to God’, then it is true? it is a ‘bit of both???’.
Just because “i believe it”, that has absolutely no, zero, zilch, nada, impact on whether or not it is True!
**That’s the problem with the false relativistic belief, it can’t be a bit of both.
You sound way too much like Oprah & her “own, personal truth?”
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**The Truth is the Truth! **
Light is not Dark, Hot is not Cold, Wet is not Dry, an electron is not a proton or a neutron, unless you are like the politician/attorney Pilate who said to Jesus; “What is Truth?” (Jn 18:38)
Stop believing the easy lies & open your heart to the difficult Truth that is our Lord & Savior Jesus the Christ!
**OK; SO HERE’S THE QUESTION ABOUT YOUR FAITH! **
**What if Jesus really is God, what if He really became a man & suffered & died for you???
What if He really said to Peter; “And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it.” (Mt 16:18)
What if Jesus really did want to give us His One, Holy, Catholic & Apostolic CHurch to guide us to Him?
What if, like the Apostles He personally trained for 3 years, all of the members of His Catholic Church fall short of His Perfection, all of us deny, betray & abandon Him often?**
What if we deny Him & make ourselves god??? OUCH!!!
What if He is still the Truth, even if we are not???
WHAT IF???
Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!
mark.
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PlipPlop
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I can just as easily ask you, what if Mohammed was really a prophet of God? What if Zoroaster was really a prophet of God?
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