Do most non-Catholics put up manger scenes at Christmas?

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If yes, I wonder if those same non-Catholics accuse Catholics of idolatry/iconoclasm. I ask this because this past Christmas my father-in-law mentioned that Lutherans don’t pray to icons or something of that sort. He is a Lutheran. I thought about saying, “You mean like setting up the manger scene you gave me for my birthday?”, which his wife did. But I didn’t.
 
We always did when I was in the Methodist church. I never knew anything about Catholics, though, so I wasn’t into call them idol-worshipers and what have you. My guess is that they would say the difference is that it’s just a decoration and not used for any type of worship/prayer. 🤷
 
If yes, I wonder if those same non-Catholics accuse Catholics of idolatry/iconoclasm. I ask this because this past Christmas my father-in-law mentioned that Lutherans don’t pray to icons or something of that sort. He is a Lutheran. I thought about saying, “You mean like setting up the manger scene you gave me for my birthday?”, which his wife did. But I didn’t.
There is a big difference between having something up on your lawn that symbolizes what we as Christians believe about Christmas, and praying to a statue.
 
If yes, I wonder if those same non-Catholics accuse Catholics of idolatry/iconoclasm. I ask this because this past Christmas my father-in-law mentioned that Lutherans don’t pray to icons or something of that sort. He is a Lutheran. I thought about saying, “You mean like setting up the manger scene you gave me for my birthday?”, which his wife did. But I didn’t.
Lampo we put a manger scene out which we view as being symbolic of the birth of our savior. Putting out a manger scene and praying to icons are not the same thing so it’s kind of an unfair accusation you made to your father-in-law. If he put out a manger scene and then proceeded to bow down to it in worship then that would be idolatry. Doesn’t sound like that’s the case though. It’s no different than having scripture displayed, or having the cross hanging on a wall.

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There is a big difference between having something up on your lawn that symbolizes what we as Christians believe about Christmas, and praying to a statue.
I agree. Of course Catholics don’t “pray to statues.” Statues remind us of what they represent. Similar to a picture of a friend, loved one, etc. I doubt that people actually worship the picture itself. They are reminded of what the picture depicts or represents. Same for religious art, statues, jewelry, etc.
 
I agree. Of course Catholics don’t “pray to statues.” Statues remind us of what they represent. Similar to a picture of a friend, loved one, etc. I doubt that people actually worship the picture itself. They are reminded of what the picture depicts or represents. Same for religious art, statues, jewelry, etc.
And I agree with you. I think that some protestants assume some things about catholics, and vice versa. I, personally, see nothing wrong with an icon or statue or anything else that helps people remember that which has meaning to them.
 
Lampo we put a manger scene out which we view as being symbolic of the birth of our savior. Putting out a manger scene and praying to icons are not the same thing so it’s kind of an unfair accusation you made to your father-in-law. If he put out a manger scene and then proceeded to bow down to it in worship then that would be idolatry. Doesn’t sound like that’s the case though. It’s no different than having scripture displayed, or having the cross hanging on a wall.

PEACE
I didn’t make that accusation to my father-in-law. I thought about it for a second, but didn’t. BTW, what makes you think that when Catholics “bow down” and pray in front of a statue or what not, we are worshiping that statue? Have you or anyone you know ever “bowed down” on their knees at their bedside before bed and prayed? If yes, I doubt they were praying to the bed were they?
 
There is a big difference between having something up on your lawn that symbolizes what we as Christians believe about Christmas, and praying to a statue.
What Catholic prays to a statue? None that I am aware of!
 
We always did when I was in the Methodist church. I never knew anything about Catholics, though, so I wasn’t into call them idol-worshipers and what have you. My guess is that they would say the difference is that it’s just a decoration and not used for any type of worship/prayer. 🤷
I’ve asked this of my non-Catholic friends (the anti-Catholic ones). That’s the answer they give.

But I know that when they put it up, it is very different from putting up a butterfly figurine. The nativity is given a place of honor. They say it’s the most important Xmas decoration. If they had to give up the tree or the nativity, they would give up the tree.

They look with awe upon the scene, and contemplate what it stands for. They reflect on the nativity and all that would come after.

What they don’t realize is that when they reflect, contemplate, meditate, on the nativity, they are praying. 🙂

You can pray without words, but they don’t seem to realize this.
 
I agree. Of course Catholics don’t “pray to statues.” Statues remind us of what they represent. Similar to a picture of a friend, loved one, etc. I doubt that people actually worship the picture itself. They are reminded of what the picture depicts or represents. Same for religious art, statues, jewelry, etc.
Lampo here is a quote from the council of trent on icons/statues etc.

because the honor which is shown them is referred to the prototypes which they represent, so that by means of the images which we kiss and before which we uncover the head and prostrate ourselves, we adore Christ and venerate the saints whose likeness they bear” (Council of Trent, Session 25, On the Invocation, Veneration, Relics of Saints, and Sacred Images.)

Also this is from Thomas Aquinas:

“[The Cross] is worshiped with the same adoration as Christ, viz. the adoration of latria.” And again, “we give the adoration of latria to the image of Christ” (Summa Theologica, Third Part, Question 25).

Remember that latria is the highest kind of worship reserved for GOD only. So Aquinas is saying that images of Christ, whether pictures or statues are to receive latria worship.

PEACE
 
Lampo we put a manger scene out which we view as being symbolic of the birth of our savior. Putting out a manger scene and praying to icons are not the same thing so it’s kind of an unfair accusation you made to your father-in-law. If he put out a manger scene and then proceeded to bow down to it in worship then that would be idolatry. Doesn’t sound like that’s the case though. It’s no different than having scripture displayed, or having the cross hanging on a wall.

PEACE
Do you think that Catholics woship the figures (of wood, plastic, or whatever) in the nativity scene?

BTW, I don’t know of anyone who has ever kneeled in front of the nativity scene on their front lawn. There’s nothing wrong with doing that. I’m just saying that I’ve never known anyone who did that?

Do any of you kneel to pray in front of your nativity scene? (inside our out?)
 
Lampo we put a manger scene out which we view as being symbolic of the birth of our savior. Putting out a manger scene and praying to icons are not the same thing so it’s kind of an unfair accusation you made to your father-in-law. If he put out a manger scene and then proceeded to bow down to it in worship then that would be idolatry. Doesn’t sound like that’s the case though. It’s no different than having scripture displayed, or having the cross hanging on a wall.

PEACE
Catholics don’t pray to statues.
Having a manger scene in your house or scripture or cross on a wall of a Protestant home is no different than what Catholics do.
We see those as reminders of our faith - nothing more.
 
I didn’t make that accusation to my father-in-law. I thought about it for a second, but didn’t. BTW, what makes you think that when Catholics “bow down” and pray in front of a statue or what not, we are worshiping that statue? Have you or anyone you know ever “bowed down” on their knees at their bedside before bed and prayed? If yes, I doubt they were praying to the bed were they?
Forgive me for implying the accusation part. It sounded like that’s how you responded to him.

As far as praying on my knees at night next to my bed, no I am not worshipping the bed. But then here’s a question right back to you. Why would you kneel in front of a statue of Christ and pray?? And yes the RCC gives the worship of latria to images of Christ and venerates the statues of other figures. You may say it’s not worshipping the statue but it would be easy for someone to think that especially when you see the Pope walk in front of the big statue of Mary and literally bow down to it. According to the second commandment that is idolatry.

PEACE
 
Do you think that Catholics woship the figures (of wood, plastic, or whatever) in the nativity scene?

BTW, I don’t know of anyone who has ever kneeled in front of the nativity scene on their front lawn. There’s nothing wrong with doing that. I’m just saying that I’ve never known anyone who did that?

Do any of you kneel to pray in front of your nativity scene? (inside our out?)
Well just because you don’t know someone who has done that doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened. And again we’re not supposed to bow down to anything except GOD. So it not OK to bow down to a nativity scene.

PEACE
 
**Catholics don’t **pray to statues.
Having a manger scene in your house or scripture or cross on a wall of a Protestant home is no different than what Catholics do.
We see those as reminders of our faith - nothing more.
Elvis I never said that Catholics pray to statues. You’re re-stating the point I made to Lampo in that I thought he made an unfair accusation to his Father-in-law. But Roman Catholics do venerate statues and apply latria worship to images of Christ.

PEACE
 
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