Do Muslims and Catholics worship the same God?

[FrDavid96]

Well, it does answer the question actually.

My answer according to Christ is - “No.”

The question of the thread is “Do Muslims and Catholics worship the same God?”

Answer to the OP according to Jesus (Savior) Christ (Anointed) is straight forward-
“But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.”

Your response does not answer the question. It answers different questions other than the one that was asked.

If someone asks “what is 2 plus 2?” and you answer “blue” you can prove all day long that the sky is blue; but that won’t change the fact that you aren’t actually answering the question.

 

[Tom_Baum]

Question: Do Muslims and Catholics worship the same God?

As far as I know, Muslims say that they worship the God of Abraham as described in the koran.

As far as I know, Catholics say that they worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as described in the Old and New Testament.

Seeing as the God of Abraham described in the koran and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob described in the Old and New Testament seem to have the God of Abraham in common even tho they don’t appear to have the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in common since it appears to me, correct me if I am wrong, that the lineage goes thru Ismael rather than Isaac?

This is one of many “discrepancies” between the God of Abraham and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob with the “big discrepancy”, in my opinion, being that the Divinity of Jesus which is the “one thing” that Christianity stands up or collapses on, being denied by the god of islam in the koran.

One thing about a lie, just because a lie might be 99% true, or anything less than 100% for that matter, doesn’t make it true.

 

[meltzerboy]

Question: Do Muslims and Catholics worship the same God?

As far as I know, Muslims say that they worship the God of Abraham as described in the koran.

As far as I know, Catholics say that they worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as described in the Old and New Testament.

Seeing as the God of Abraham described in the koran and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob described in the Old and New Testament seem to have the God of Abraham in common even tho they don’t appear to have the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in common since it appears to me, correct me if I am wrong, that the lineage goes thru Ismael rather than Isaac?

This is one of many “discrepancies” between the God of Abraham and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob with the “big discrepancy”, in my opinion, being that the Divinity of Jesus which is the “one thing” that Christianity stands up or collapses on, being denied by the god of islam in the koran.

One thing about a lie, just because a lie might be 99% true, or anything less than 100% for that matter, doesn’t make it true.

Do you mean Islam is intentionally lying about the nature of G-d or instead misinterpreting the nature of G-d? I wonder whether any religion would intentionally lie about that.

 

[Tom_Baum]

Do you mean Islam is intentionally lying about the nature of G-d or instead misinterpreting the nature of G-d? I wonder whether any religion would intentionally lie about that.

I believe that the koran was supernaturally given and that it was given by who is referred to as a liar and thief by God.

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

Muslims believe in the One creator of heaven and earth, because they do not believe in the Holy Spirit who makes known the revelations of God to our humanity, the true presence of God is suspended.

Thus it would appear that Muslims worship, that reaches for, but can never attain the full essence of God, which is unapproachable. Which in any respect is a noble effort.

Catholics on the other hand have recieved the Holy Spirit, who declares to us the revelations of God in the Spirit of Truth, thus Catholics worship God in the True presence of God.

Only God can reveal who God is. Man can only invent false gods. When man pretends to reveal who God is, that revelation is false, because God does not recieve the testimony from man.

The finger of God’s presence touches the Catholic worship when God is all and in all.

When it is the essence of God that Muslims reach for in worship that can never be reached or defined, unless God himself takes on human flesh for our sake, so that God’s presence not essence can be revealed.

Islam’s prophet Muhammad can never define God’s essence. Islam’s worship acknowledges that God exists from the natural order of humanity. Islam does not worship God in the Spirit of Truth, because they deny who the Holy Spirit is, who declares and gives testimony of God because He is God, the Lord the giver of life.

The Holy Spirit our advocate/paraclete has come to humanity to make known the revelations from God, not from Muhammad, not from the prophets themselves. Because the Holy Spirit has spoken through the prophets.

Islam’s worship begins from the natural of man that grasp towards the essence of God, which no one see’s God and lives, without the Spirit of Truth which they reject, His presence veils the essence of God, and know one can go to the Father without the Son which Islam rejects the incarnation, death and resurrection of the Word incarnate.

Catholic’s worship God in God’s true presence in the Spirit of Truth who is God that is all and in all. The Word of God and the Holy Spirit come to us in revelation that veils the essence of God as we enter the Holy of Holies through the Son in the Spirit of God amen.

Islam worship’s God from afar from the humanity.

Catholic worship’s God “in him, with him and through him, when God is all that is in all” when we declare God is “IAM”, revealed by God himself veiled essence in His True presence in the Spirit and Truth = Jesus.

 

[JHow]

Do Muslims believe that Christians worship the same God as they do? I understand that Chrustians and Jews are “people of the book” , but how far does that go?

 

[Katie_Kilbane]

Do Muslims believe that Christians worship the same God as they do? I understand that Chrustians and Jews are “people of the book” , but how far does that go?

Hello and thank you for your question.

Muslims believe that Christians ascribe to Almighty God that which is not befitting His Majesty and Honor.

I could post many verses from Quran to show how far it goes, but perhaps you should read a good translation of the Quran (Hilali and Khan or Saheeh International are translations that are in accordance with the orthodox teachings of Islam) and find out for your self. They are both available online.

 

[oldcatholicguy]

I really wish people would use English when posting comments. There seems to be a lot of people on this thread who assume they are writing in English, and I’m sure some will even profess they are, but even a basic examination of their posts will illustrate that they are not. Their improper use of grammar, poor, faulty, and incomplete sentence structure, and bad spelling all point to the fact that they really aren’t writing in English. We know this, because English, real English, can only exist as accurately portrayed in my English grammar book.

A improper usage of grammer, mis-spelled worde, improper, use of punktuaton and badd sentence struksure means that wat u think iz n Inglish really iznt. Clearly English can only exist if it is used and understood perfectly and even the slightest error means that it is not English and can not be English. So, please refrain from using whatever non-English language you think is English and make your posts in actual English. This is, after all, an English language site and forum. Tank uz,

 

[Matthew_Light]

I believe that the koran was supernaturally given and that it was given by who is referred to as a liar and thief by God.

Accusing people of following Satan is not conducive to a positive relationship, is it?

I believe this is the cause of the terrible relationship between people of different religions in the world today. Baptists accusing Catholics of following the Antichrist. Christians telling Muslims they follow the Devil. Muslims believing that the Christian scriptures are corrupted. I recall a Carpenter who was the Lord of all humanity who healed the afflicted – the Pharisees accused Him of being in league with Baalzebub and hung Him on a cross for heresy.

 

[Tom_Baum]

I really wish people would use English when posting comments. There seems to be a lot of people on this thread who assume they are writing in English, and I’m sure some will even profess they are, but even a basic examination of their posts will illustrate that they are not. Their improper use of grammar, poor, faulty, and incomplete sentence structure, and bad spelling all point to the fact that they really aren’t writing in English. We know this, because English, real English, can only exist as accurately portrayed in my English grammar book.

A improper usage of grammer, mis-spelled worde, improper, use of punktuaton and badd sentence struksure means that wat u think iz n Inglish really iznt. Clearly English can only exist if it is used and understood perfectly and even the slightest error means that it is not English and can not be English. So, please refrain from using whatever non-English language you think is English and make your posts in actual English. This is, after all, an English language site and forum. Tank uz,

I know American English and only American English plus just a few words in some other languages, in other words I am not a linguist, and I, for one, appreciate the fact the some who are not proficient in English post on here and I applaud their effort.

To those of you who are not proficient in English, please keep posting, you have every right as the next person to contribute, as a matter of fact, some of you may give the rest of us an insight that we might not get from anywhere else.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Maybe we should go over it sentence by sentence.

 

[Tom_Baum]

Accusing people of following Satan is not conducive to a positive relationship, is it?

I believe this is the cause of the terrible relationship between people of different religions in the world today. Baptists accusing Catholics of following the Antichrist. Christians telling Muslims they follow the Devil. Muslims believing that the Christian scriptures are corrupted. I recall a Carpenter who was the Lord of all humanity who healed the afflicted – the Pharisees accused Him of being in league with Baalzebub and hung Him on a cross for heresy.

Why should I lie?

Jesus asked the question directed to all of us, “Who do you say that I am?”

I answered it by saying that I believe Jesus is God-Incarnate, I believe that Jesus was telling the truth when He was accused of blasphemy, not heresy by the way, and when the god of the koran basically said that Jesus was a liar and yet still called Jesus his prophet, I pointed out that it was the god of the koran that was the liar, not Jesus.

I have also said that God is a searcher of hearts and minds, not of religious affiliations or lack thereof and It is important what one does and why one does it and what one knows.

I do NOT believe that God is an egotistical maniac that some, who believe in God, seem to think God to be.

God chose me to speak so I am at least making an attempt at speaking.

God has a Plan and has had a Plan since before creation and in this Plan it is “God’s Will that ALL be saved” and God’s Plan will come to Fruition, this is the GOOD NEWS, as Jesus said, “When I am lifted up, I will draw EVERYONE to Myself”, not loaded with details but quite catholic in scope.

 

[oldcatholicguy]

I know American English and only American English plus just a few words in some other languages, in other words I am not a linguist, and I, for one, appreciate the fact the some who are not proficient in English post on here and I applaud their effort.

To those of you who are not proficient in English, please keep posting, you have every right as the next person to contribute, as a matter of fact, some of you may give the rest of us an insight that we might not get from anywhere else.

Sayin dat de “God of Islam” iznt de same as de “God of Catholicism” cause Islam’s undrstandin of God is different than wat de Church teaches iz lik sayin dis comment iznt in English cause of all de spelllin and grammer errorz n it.

Saying that the “God Islam” isn’t the same as the “God of Catholicism” because Islam’s understanding of God is different than what the Church teaches is like saying this comment isn’t in English due to all the spelling and grammatical errors in it.

The argument that Muslims, Jews, and Protestants don’t actually worship God because their faiths contain errors in regards to Him is no less silly than the argument that my first sentence above isn’t in English.

 

[JHow]

The point was not missed. But coming on the heals of my “Chrustians”, I did have to think about it.

Although, chrust is a Polish holiday treat, so I don’t feel too bad for my fat-fingered typing.

 

[josie_L]

Sayin dat de “God of Islam” iznt de same as de “God of Catholicism” cause Islam’s undrstandin of God is different than wat de Church teaches iz lik sayin dis comment iznt in English cause of all de spelllin and grammer errorz n it.
Saying that the “God Islam” isn’t the same as the “God of Catholicism” because Islam’s understanding of God is different than what the Church teaches is like saying this comment isn’t in English due to all the spelling and grammatical errors in it.

The argument that Muslims, Jews, and Protestants don’t actually worship God because their faiths contain errors in regards to Him is no less silly than the argument that my first sentence above isn’t in English.

I think I’m slowly starting to like you.

 

[GaryTaylor]

There can be no other conclusion other than there is but One God. Everyone on this thread affirms this. Its a clear fact here.

Because there have many who have come along who believe in this One God, “then” came to understand Him differently in the doctrines forever given, and for various reasons, doesn’t change the fact there is One God.

The disconnect stems from Mohammed/Quran. Seems to me in so many words intrinsic evil is suggested with the Quran etc.

Fair enough?

An intrinsic evil as an act that is always bad, always sinful, always!. Never good, never appropriate, never useful, never!. It is an act that is ALWAYS SINFUL in every time, every epoch, every era, every age, every place, every situation, all the time!. There is NO GREY AREA! No doubt, no question that these acts (acts that are intrinsically evil) are always and everywhere and for everybody and for every situation, SINFUL and NEVER ACCEPTABLE.

Plausible? Perhaps but for the sake of insulting conversation lets now move to the people.

That cannot be proven, immediately there is “A GREY AREA” .

Yes?

 

[Matthew_Light]

The disconnect stems from Mohammed/Quran. Seems to me in so many words intrinsic evil is suggested with the Quran etc.

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Can you elaborate?

 

[GaryTaylor]

?

Can you elaborate?

No!

 

[FrDavid96]

Question: Do Muslims and Catholics worship the same God?

As far as I know, Muslims say that they worship the God of Abraham as described in the koran.

As far as I know, Catholics say that they worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as described in the Old and New Testament.

Seeing as the God of Abraham described in the koran and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob described in the Old and New Testament seem to have the God of Abraham in common even tho they don’t appear to have the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in common since it appears to me, correct me if I am wrong, that the lineage goes thru Ismael rather than Isaac?

This is one of many “discrepancies” between the God of Abraham and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob with the “big discrepancy”, in my opinion, being that the Divinity of Jesus which is the “one thing” that Christianity stands up or collapses on, being denied by the god of islam in the koran.

One thing about a lie, just because a lie might be 99% true, or anything less than 100% for that matter, doesn’t make it true.

And, as far as the Catholic Church knows, Catholics and Moslems do worship the same God.

But of course, you know better than the Church…

 

[Tom_Baum]

Sayin dat de “God of Islam” iznt de same as de “God of Catholicism” cause Islam’s undrstandin of God is different than wat de Church teaches iz lik sayin dis comment iznt in English cause of all de spelllin and grammer errorz n it.

Saying that the “God Islam” isn’t the same as the “God of Catholicism” because Islam’s understanding of God is different than what the Church teaches is like saying this comment isn’t in English due to all the spelling and grammatical errors in it.

The argument that Muslims, Jews, and Protestants don’t actually worship God because their faiths contain errors in regards to Him is no less silly than the argument that my first sentence above isn’t in English.

As far as “The argument that Muslims, Jews, and Protestants don’t actually worship God because their faiths contain errors in regards to Him is no less silly than the argument that my first sentence above isn’t in English”.

I never said anything about the Jews or the Protestants, the question was “Do Muslims and Catholics worship the same God?”, and I answered, you don’t have to like or agree with my answer, you can make fun of my answer but about the only thing that I do take serious is the “job” that God gave me and I look at this “job” as Our “job” as in God’s and mine.

Jesus’s simple question, “Who do you say that I am?”

And as I said, “God is a searcher of hearts and minds, not of religious affiliations or lack thereof” and “It is important what one does and why one does it and what one knows”.

In what I wrote in the above sentence, I was/am trying to point out that God is not the egotistical maniac that some seem to believe God to be but nevertheless if one believes Jesus to be God-Incarnate, why should one be afraid to admit it?

Also, why should one be afraid to point out the obvious about something “claimed” in another religion?

Something else that I have said many times, “I would rather be the worst follower of Jesus than the best follower of the best follower of Jesus”.