Yes, God can still give His Grace.Non-Catholic trinitarian baptisms have the same grace as on performed in the Church. Can non-catholic blessed Holy water/oil bare the same or equivocal “power”? I think that hte non-catholic sacramentals are not technically sacramentals nor do they bare that full grace, however they are still acts of faith and God can still give his grace.
Non-catholic ‘sacramentals’ (they cannot be sacramentals if there is no saccrament!) do not bear any grace. They also are not properly blessed. They have no value except in the eye of the beholder.Non-Catholic trinitarian baptisms have the same grace as on performed in the Church. Can non-catholic blessed Holy water/oil bare the same or equivocal “power”? I think that hte non-catholic sacramentals are not technically sacramentals nor do they bare that full grace, however they are still acts of faith and God can still give his grace.
What sacrament is there in say, a rosary?(they cannot be sacramentals if there is no saccrament!)
None unless it’s been blessed by a priest.What sacrament is there in say, a rosary?
I believe that the *recitation *of the rosary on a set of beads that has not yet been blessed still has value, however.None unless it’s been blessed by a priest.
I draw the lines in certain areas, and this is one of them. If it’s unblessed, it’s merely an object of little value, and in this case, it’s a tool to help you pray, nothing more. We need to show through examples like this to those that are brainwashed into thinking Catholics worship idols, that we clearly do not, and placing any degree of emphasis along an inanimate object as being more then just an object does little for the testimony of our faith.I believe that the *recitation *of the rosary on a set of beads that has not yet been blessed still has value, however.
There are non-catholics with valid Sacraments. The Orthodox Churches as well as the Polish National Catholic Church just to name a few.Non-catholic ‘sacramentals’ (they cannot be sacramentals if there is no saccrament!) do not bear any grace. They also are not properly blessed. They have no value except in the eye of the beholder.
non-Catholics don’t have sacramentals, and most would abhor the thought that blessing a created object can confer grace on the person who uses it for its intended devotional purpose. Sacramental means just that, an object blessed by a priest who has the power and authority to bless through Christ and confer on the person using the sacramental a share in the grace of Jesus Christ which is mediated through the sacraments of the Church. That is the only way and the normal way sacramental grace is conferred.Non-Catholic trinitarian baptisms have the same grace as on performed in the Church. Can non-catholic blessed Holy water/oil bare the same or equivocal “power”? I think that hte non-catholic sacramentals are not technically sacramentals nor do they bare that full grace, however they are still acts of faith and God can still give his grace.
The Orthodox churches are still an integral part of the Catholic Church. So is the PNCC. However, both are in schism and, although separated, retain a valid sacramental structure.There are non-catholics with valid Sacraments. The Orthodox Churches as well as the Polish National Catholic Church just to name a few.
Please note that Catholic sacramentals do not bear any grace either. Sacraments confer grace, sacramentals do not.Non-catholic ‘sacramentals’ (they cannot be sacramentals if there is no saccrament!) do not bear any grace. They also are not properly blessed. They have no value except in the eye of the beholder.
Sacramentals are closely connected to the sacraments of the Catholic Church. Many sacramentals such as holy oils, holy water, blessings, candles, and incense are used in the celebration of the sacraments.Please note that Catholic sacramentals do not bear any grace either. Sacraments confer grace, sacramentals do not.
Basically, yes.In other words, valid sacraments give God’s grace and sacramentals are more of a petition or action done to receive God’s grace?
Because Orthodox priests are validly ordained priests.Why are Orthodox sacraments and sacramentals valid while protestant ones are not?
A marriage in a protestant service might or might not be a sacrament. Some (most) protestants will officiate at marriages even if one of the parties is still in a first-marriage; in that case, the marriage can’t be a Sacrament. If everything else is present and “in order” a marriage between 2 baptised Christians is (usually but not always) a sacrament.The only valid protestant sacrament is the trinitarian baptism. There marriages count as marriages but why aren’t they sacraments as well?