Do nuns recieve a sacrment on becoming a nun?

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Do nuns recieve some kind of modified Holy Orders or Marriage sacrament upon becoming a nun?

I don’t think they do… but then, what happens? Just a solemn promise?

What about monks?
 
The quick answer is, no, they do not receive a sacrament.

There are two groups of people in the Church: laity and clergy. Unless one has received Holy Orders one is a lay person. This would include sisters, nuns and monks who are not in orders as well as professed brothers. Since the time of Vatican II one enters the clerical state (in the Latin Church) with the reception of Holy Orders as a deacon. Thus, deacons, priests and bishops are clergy, everyone else is laity.

Deacon Ed
 
I have two nieces who are nuns. They made a first profession of vows and then will renew this in three years before making their final profession. But they don’t receive Holy Orders. It’s not a sacrament.
 
Deacon Ed:
The quick answer is, no, they do not receive a sacrament.

There are two groups of people in the Church: laity and clergy. Unless one has received Holy Orders one is a lay person. This would include sisters, nuns and monks who are not in orders as well as professed brothers. Since the time of Vatican II one enters the clerical state (in the Latin Church) with the reception of Holy Orders as a deacon. Thus, deacons, priests and bishops are clergy, everyone else is laity.

Deacon Ed
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Father Deacon Ed,
In the Eastern Church monastics (monks and I believe nuns) undergo the monastic consecration. Many in the Eastern Christian World do view this as a mystery.
 
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ByzCath:
Father Deacon Ed,
In the Eastern Church monastics (monks and I believe nuns) undergo the monastic consecration. Many in the Eastern Christian World do view this as a mystery.
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In early Christian history there were many “sacraments”. I believe that one source listed 38 actions as “sacraments” at one time. The Catholic Church responded through several Councils defining that there are seven “Sacraments”. Religious Profession or Consecration is not one of them.
 
Br. Rich SFO:
In early Christian history there were many “sacraments”. I believe that one source listed 38 actions as “sacraments” at one time. The Catholic Church responded through several Councils defining that there are seven “Sacraments”. Religious Profession or Consecration is not one of them.
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Actually, I believe that they say that there are seven Mysteries (Sacraments) but do not explicitly set an upper limit.

Many in the Eastern Churches also view the Blessing of the Waters that occurs at Easter as a Mystery.

I have also been told that the the Church is view as a Sacrament in the West,
 
David and Br. Rich:

In the Eastern Catholic Churches there is an agreement that there are only seven sacraments/mysteries. The difference between the blessing that a monastic receives and Holy Orders is the difference between cheirothesis (a blessing) and cheirotonia (ordination). The number seven in the Catholic Churches derives from the work of Peter Lombard and his Sentences in which he enumerated for the first time the seven sacraments. In the Eastern tradition the number seven is more of a teaching tool and a general consensus. It is not a limit.

As for the Church being a sacrament: the general definition of a sacrament given in the Baltimore Catechism is “an outward sign instituted by Christ to give grace.” The Church would certainly qualify as a sacrament under this definition. It is not, however, listed as one of the seven (eight?) and is not likely to be taught as a sacrament in general classes.

Deacon Ed
 
Deacon Ed:
As for the Church being a sacrament: the general definition of a sacrament given in the Baltimore Catechism is “an outward sign instituted by Christ to give grace.” The Church would certainly qualify as a sacrament under this definition. It is not, however, listed as one of the seven (eight?) and is not likely to be taught as a sacrament in general classes.
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Father Deacon Ed,

This was taught, that is that the Church is a sacrament, in the RCIA class I was made to attend before my Chrismation (or Confirmation as it took place at the Easter Vigil in a Latin Catholic Church).
 
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ByzCath:
Father Deacon Ed,

This was taught, that is that the Church is a sacrament, in the RCIA class I was made to attend before my Chrismation (or Confirmation as it took place at the Easter Vigil in a Latin Catholic Church).
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David,

As I said, the teaching is not wrong in the general sense of what a sacrament is, it is simply not listed as one of the seven sacraments of the Church.

Deacon Ed
 
Many in the Eastern Churches also view the Blessing of the Waters that occurs at Easter as a Mystery.

Perhaps confusion about words. Same in Ukrainian and Russian. In russian tajna (mystery, secret) and tainstvo (mystery, sacrament) are different as in Ukrainian tajemnitzja and tajemstvo. In English can call differently as Mysterion and Mystery. Blessings of Water (probably most important is Great Blessing of Water at Little Christmas) should be called mystery. However not mysterion or tainstvo which in Latin is called sacrament. Such things called sacramentals in Latin, I think. Similar words but different. Such a source as St. Petersburg Theological Academy considers the great and small water-blessings as “rites” (chiny) and not “tainstvo” (sacrament).
 
Volodymyr,

Yes, you are correct. In the Latin Church the distinction is made between the seven sacraments and those items called “sacramentals” which are designed to foster the spirituality of the individual. Holy Water is a sacramental, and not a sacrament.

Deacon Ed
 
If the monk is a priest who can hear confession, say mass, etc.; then he does receive a sacrament. Otherwise, he doesn’t.
 
Actually, I believe that they say that there are seven Mysteries (Sacraments) but do not explicitly set an upper limit.
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According to the Council of Trent:
If any one saith, that the sacraments of the New Law were not all instituted by Jesus Christ, our Lord; or, that they are more, or less, than seven, to wit, Baptism, Confirmation, the Eucharist, Penance, Extreme Unction, Order, and Matrimony; or even that any one of these seven is not truly and properly a sacrament; let him be anathema.
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why is it that when I revisit a thread from a few days ago, because I notice a new post, that invariable the original topic has been replaced by either a)why we need the Latin Mass, b)why the Eastern churches do it better, or c)why charistmatics are going to burn in hell.

Can we please stay on topic, people?
 
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puzzleannie:
why is it that when I revisit a thread from a few days ago, because I notice a new post, that invariable the original topic has been replaced by either a)why we need the Latin Mass, b)why the Eastern churches do it better, or c)why charistmatics are going to burn in hell.

Can we please stay on topic, people?
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My reply was on topic and in no way did it say the the Eastern Churches do it better, it said that the Eastern Churches do it different.

Why is it when us Eastern Christians comment how we do something we get jumped and accussed of saying our way is better?
 
Just because I feel contrary this morning, I’ll stir the pot.

The Polish National Catholic Church deems preaching and hearing the Word of God to be a sacrament.

Many years,

Neil
 
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ByzCath:
Father Deacon Ed,

This was taught, that is that the Church is a sacrament, in the RCIA class I was made to attend before my Chrismation (or Confirmation as it took place at the Easter Vigil in a Latin Catholic Church).
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Actually that’s what soem modernists believe. Some think that having a religion of anykind is a step or sacrament to their illiusion of "heaven, which is atheism.
 
Well I guess we Orthodox are anathema then.
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That depends on which Orthodox theologian you are talking about, and how he defined a “Mystery”.

Although it’s not considered dogmatic for you guys, it seems to me that the vast majority of you guys believe in only seven “Mysteries,” where this word is used in the same sense as “Sacrament.”
 
The Polish National Catholic Church deems preaching and hearing the Word of God to be a sacrament.
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According to this Belief Statement of theirs they only recognize seven.
 
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