Do other Christian denominations accept homosexuality for their own convenience?

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Sy_Noe said:
I’ve already read quotes and I’ve also read how some of the other Christian faith communities have come to understand homosexuality and marriage differently.
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We should understand people, and I hope that understanding develops.

When understanding develops, it should be rational and reasonable. Asserting that a gay union is the same as the union of a man and woman is not well-reasoned.

I think the words of St Paul can be applied here:
" their senseless minds were darkened…"

Senseless:
“I can see that a man and a woman form a unique relationship, but I refuse to accept what I see.” That is literally sense-less.

And so absent common sense, our minds are darkened, and we will believe things that are un-reasonable.

When societies and cultures behave outside of reason, all sorts of evil becomes possible. It’s all just a matter of who holds the power of un-reason.
 
At what point in history did mankind lose the plot, and make identity about sex? Honour no, wisdom no, understanding no. Take the rainbow for instance. Why is that usurped into a trivial agender? Children can no longer wear t-shirts with rainbows, because honestly children seriously don’t give a damn about the stupidity of stupid sexual identity. Pride? No. Sadness, yes.
 
Tagetes said:
Why is it our fault that you equate attraction with sex?
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Excuse me, my friend, I am attracted to my father, my mother, my sister, my brother, that does not make me incestuous, does it. I am very attracted to beautiful music, which could make me an audiophile (which I don’t mind), I am attracted to many many things, I am very attracted to the smell of flowers, bunny rabbits, and kittens. That does not make me a homosexual does it. Please stop using the “attraction” argument. Attraction is a very genuine emotion, in fact if we did not possess such an emotion we would be entirely disassociated from our environment.

Homosexuality contains a narcissistic element. And whether you like it or not homosexuality is about sex, not that whole innocent attraction thing you seem to think it is.
 
Darryl_B said:
Homosexuality contains a narcissistic element. And whether you like it or not homosexuality is about sex, not that whole innocent attraction thing you seem to think it is.
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In other words, you’re outright telling me, a celibate person, that my feelings are about sex that I’m not having… and, in most cases, don’t even want to have?.. That my being in love is literally about one of the last things on my mind? :confused:

Oh yeah, homosexuality “contains a narcissistic element”, but “I know how you feel better than yourself, dear total stranger”, apparently, does not.
 
Darryl_B said:
At what point in history did mankind lose the plot, and make identity about sex? Honour no, wisdom no, understanding no. Take the rainbow for instance. Why is that usurped into a trivial agender? Children can no longer wear t-shirts with rainbows, because honestly children seriously don’t give a damn about the stupidity of stupid sexual identity. Pride? No. Sadness, yes.
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And when did the poor shamrock get usurped by the Irish? All the rest of us can’t wear shamrocks on our T-shirts without people thinking we’re Irish 😉
 
Darryl_B said:
Excuse me, my friend, I am attracted to my father, my mother, my sister, my brother, that does not make me incestuous, does it. I am very attracted to beautiful music, which could make me an audiophile (which I don’t mind), I am attracted to many many things, I am very attracted to the smell of flowers, bunny rabbits, and kittens. That does not make me a homosexual does it. Please stop using the “attraction” argument. Attraction is a very genuine emotion, in fact if we did not possess such an emotion we would be entirely disassociated from our environment.

Homosexuality contains a narcissistic element. And whether you like it or not homosexuality is about sex, not that whole innocent attraction thing you seem to think it is.
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Calling every person who has same sex attraction narcissistic how very charitable and kind of you. I wonder why many same sex attracted Catholics don’t feel welcome or even tolerated by many Christians. It’s a mystery
 
Darryl_B said:
Excuse me, my friend, I am attracted to my father, my mother, my sister, my brother, that does not make me incestuous, does it. I am very attracted to beautiful music, which could make me an audiophile (which I don’t mind), I am attracted to many many things, I am very attracted to the smell of flowers, bunny rabbits, and kittens. That does not make me a homosexual does it. Please stop using the “attraction” argument. Attraction is a very genuine emotion, in fact if we did not possess such an emotion we would be entirely disassociated from our environment.

Homosexuality contains a narcissistic element. And whether you like it or not homosexuality is about sex, not that whole innocent attraction thing you seem to think it is.
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Might I suggest googling the word charity and showing some instead of basically attacking thr other poster and back handedly calling them narcissistic. Maybe actually encouraging them in their celibate journey would be helpful instead f making sure they feel super extra bad for having attractions they didn’t choose.
 
Thorolfr said:
And when did the poor shamrock get usurped by the Irish? All the rest of us can’t wear shamrocks on our T-shirts without people thinking we’re Irish 😉
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Touche’ :)🙂
There are so many items of clothing and accessories I can’t wear anymore. Pretty soon I’ll have to go out naked to avoid attracting negative attention.
 
Tagetes said:
In other words, you’re outright telling me, a celibate person, that my feelings are about sex that I’m not having… and, in most cases, don’t even want to have?.. That my being in love is literally about one of the last things on my mind? :confused:

Oh yeah, homosexuality “contains a narcissistic element”, but “I know how you feel better than yourself, dear total stranger”, apparently, does not.
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Fwiw, in my years on forums, I’ve seen quite a lot of people (presumably heterosexual) being told things about themselves, e.g. what their “real” motive is for converting.

Edit: if you are thinking “Well two wrongs don’t make a right” … then well I can only say “Yes of course.”🙂
 
Peter_J said:
Fwiw, in my years on forums, I’ve seen quite a lot of people (presumably heterosexual) being told things about themselves, e.g. what their “real” motive is for converting.

Edit: if you are thinking “Well two wrongs don’t make a right” … then well I can only say “Yes of course.”🙂
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What I’m actually thinking is I’m familiar with each of these words separately, yet the point you are trying to make totally escapes me.

To whoever else believes that homosexuality is all about sex. Do you hold heterosexual infatuations to the same standard? I’m not talking about marriage, sacramental or constitutonal. Just when you find yourself developing feelings for a person of opposite sex and have yet to find out whether they will reciprocate, let alone become you spouse. Is this feeling all about sex? If yes, fine. I mean, it’s not fine, tough luck on your potential significant other, but at least you’re being consistent. But it’s ridiculous, if in your view a man smitten with a woman is “now I’ve found thee and the world shall know thy glory” and a woman smitten with another woman is “sex”.
 
Society has developed an incredibly unhealthy attitude to sex being linked to their identity. I don’t actually consider myself heterosexual, that is largely what I am labelled by others who are not, primarily to identify themselves as different than me. I never take part in a heterosexual parade, if one existed I still couldn’t be bothered because that is not what defines me. I have never had to boost my pride in that aspect of who I am as a human “being”.

There is no doubt that the media has milked this, and there are some denominations who have ran with it too. We no longer understand who we are.

Honestly friendship can exist without this obsession.
 
Thorolfr said:
And when did the poor shamrock get usurped by the Irish? All the rest of us can’t wear shamrocks on our T-shirts without people thinking we’re Irish 😉
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Mock all you like but we are robbing children of their innocence, something that us adults could do very well to learn from.
 
Tagetes said:
To whoever else believes that homosexuality is all about sex. Do you hold heterosexual infatuations to the same standard?
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Until 30 years ago homosexuality was an act, not a state of being. Do you remember those days? In times past people had the “being” of human, and sex was not the focus of life. Fast-forward and now what a shambles. What killed us? It is a very short space of time historically but there were a large number of factors, each weaving themselves deliberately into the fabric of a disillusioned society.

I don’t consider it “heterosexual”. As my previous post. Infatuation is not the same as attraction, cute kitten, infatuation contains an element of obsession, even an element of stalking. I consider infatuation unhealthy even for (using your terminology) heterosexuals, because that is not love.
 
Darryl_B said:
I don’t actually consider myself heterosexual, that is largely what I am labelled by others who are not, primarily to identify themselves as different than me.
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Possibly I will be sorry for wading into this exchange, but after reading the above I felt I had to comment that that should give you a great deal of sympathy for those who are unfairly labelled criminal.

(For readers who think that comment came out of nowhere, I should add that there is right now a thread on the Catholic Answers Forum for criminalizing homosexual acts in the United States.)
 
Darryl_B said:
Mock all you like but we are robbing children of their innocence, something that us adults could do very well to learn from.
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Talking about children having their innocence robbed, when I was only 11 or 12, I was already having mine robbed by other kids who bullied me by calling me a f*g or a qu**r or a pansy. And children are not always all that “Innocent”. They can often be more cruel than many adults.
 
Thorolfr said:
Talking about children having their innocence robbed, when I was only 11 or 12, I was already having mine robbed by other kids who bullied me by calling me a f*g or a qu**r or a pansy. And children are not always all that “Innocent”. They can often be more cruel than many adults.
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If this is leading up to saying that anti-bullying ads are a good idea, then I’d just like to say Yes they are.
 
Tagetes said:
Why do you have to do this? Do you think you’re being witty?
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Are you for real? 🤷

If you have something to say to me, say it. I’m not going to apologize for saying that anti-bullying ads are a good idea.
 
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