Do Priests where the Skull cap?

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The zuchet looks exactly like the white one the pope wears but the priests is black. I have only seen one priest of recent wear one and that was 13 years ago. He also wore the “robe” you know the one like Father Guido Sarducci.
 
Sir Knight:
He carries it in case he or his congregation is attacked as has already been the case in some churches. I think that is very prudent of him. He is taking very seriously his responsibility as a Catholic to protect himself and other innocent individuals from harm as we all are instructed to do in the CCC.
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It’s true that there’s nothing wrong with armed Catholics intent on self-defense, yet for a priest to use armed force to repel an agressor would violate the traditional separation of the two swords in Christendom (the spiritual authority vested in the Church and the temporal authority belonging to the state, the former renouncing force and the latter allowed to use it). Perhaps it would be considered acceptable now for a priest to pack heat, but I know that would not have flown for much of Christian history.
 
Andreas Hofer:
It’s true that there’s nothing wrong with armed Catholics intent on self-defense, yet for a priest to use armed force to repel an agressor would violate the traditional separation of the two swords in Christendom (the spiritual authority vested in the Church and the temporal authority belonging to the state, the former renouncing force and the latter allowed to use it). Perhaps it would be considered acceptable now for a priest to pack heat, but I know that would not have flown for much of Christian history.
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Actually, it flows very well with Christian history. Note that Gabriel Possenti used a pistol to defend the village his seminary was located in from marauding Garibaldi soldiers (he was a noted marksman prior to entering the seminary) and he is now officially recognized as a saint by the Catholic church. The Holy See saw no violaion in “the traditional separation of the two swords in Christendom (the spiritual authority vested in the Church and the temporal authority belonging to the state, the former renouncing force and the latter allowed to use it).”

As a matter of fact, I would strongly suspect that his actions in defending innocent life, might have contributed to his sainthood.
 
Pius X:
Yes, priests are allowed to wear the Zucchetto. Priests wear black, Bishops wear purple, Cardinals wear Red, and the Pope wears white.
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I have also seen Franciscans wear a brown one.
 
We have THREE Msgrs at our parish and they all were the purple cassock. Our single priest really stands out next to them in his black cassock.
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You mean that the three monsignori are married??? :eek:
 
I stopped wearing mine.
I got tired of people coming up to me and saying, Shalom. people, a keppi has 4 panels, a zuchetto has 8.
Oy Gevalt!
 
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mgy100:
I know a msgr that still wears the purple cassock, the lace thing and his birretta. it isn’t a regular cassock, as the surplice or whatever kind of goes under the cassock, as if he is wearing something over that, in the purple or whatever colour you call it.

Someone here can elaborate that for me.
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It might be the mantelletta. However this vesture is now limited certain kinds of monsignor.
 
Sir Knight:
Why? Jesus, Himself, instructed His followers to protect themselves when He encouraged them to sell their outer garments in order to buy a sword (Luke 22:36-38; cf. 2 Corinthians 11:26-27 – a plain reading of the passage indicates that Jesus approved of self-defense). Here the “sword” (Greek: maxairan) is a dagger or short sword that belonged to the Jewish traveler’s equipment as protection against robbers and wild animals. Pretty much the equilavent of what a handgun is today.

Who said anything about two? Of course, if he did carry two (or three), I wouldn’t see that as a problem either.

He carries it in case he or his congregation is attacked as has already been the case in some churches. I think that is very prudent of him. He is taking very seriously his responsibility as a Catholic to protect himself and other innocent individuals from harm as we all are instructed to do in the CCC.

Why?

"… fear ye not them that kill the body, and are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him that can destroy both soul and body …" Matthew 10:28.
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Thanks for dissecting my remarks. Apparently my wry humor wasn’t entirely apparent…
 
Andreas Hofer:
It’s true that there’s nothing wrong with armed Catholics intent on self-defense, yet for a priest to use armed force to repel an agressor would violate the traditional separation of the two swords in Christendom (the spiritual authority vested in the Church and the temporal authority belonging to the state, the former renouncing force and the latter allowed to use it). Perhaps it would be considered acceptable now for a priest to pack heat, but I know that would not have flown for much of Christian history.
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Thank you
 
Sir Knight:
James Bond carried a Walther PPK in .32ACP. My pastor carries a Beretta Cougar 8040L in .40S&W under his cassock.
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Must be a tough crowd. It would tend to help stifle criticism of his homilies…
 
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AMDG1:
Thanks for dissecting my remarks. Apparently my wry humor wasn’t entirely apparent…
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I felt that I politely and to the best of my ability addressed your comments.
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AMDG1:
Andreas Hofer:
It’s true that there’s nothing wrong with armed Catholics intent on self-defense, yet for a priest to use armed force to repel an agressor would violate the traditional separation of the two swords in Christendom (the spiritual authority vested in the Church and the temporal authority belonging to the state, the former renouncing force and the latter allowed to use it). Perhaps it would be considered acceptable now for a priest to pack heat, but I know that would not have flown for much of Christian history.
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Thank you
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I guess you didn’t catch my reply …
Sir Knight:
Actually, it flows very well with Christian history. Note that Gabriel Possenti used a pistol to defend the village his seminary was located in from marauding Garibaldi soldiers (he was a noted marksman prior to entering the seminary) and he is now officially recognized as a saint by the Catholic church. The Holy See saw no violaion in “the traditional separation of the two swords in Christendom (the spiritual authority vested in the Church and the temporal authority belonging to the state, the former renouncing force and the latter allowed to use it).” As a matter of fact, I would strongly suspect that his actions in defending innocent life, might have contributed to his sainthood.
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Chatter163:
You mean that the three monsignori are married??? :eek:
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Who said anything about marriage? The parish has three msgrs – there is more than one of them. The parish has only ONE priest. There is but a SINGLE (one) priest in the parish.

I just found that unusual. Most parishes that I’ve been a member of, the priests have outnumbered the msrgs and not the other way around.
 
Who said anything about marriage? The parish has three msgrs – there is more than one of them. The parish has only ONE priest. There is but a SINGLE (one) priest in the parish.

I just found that unusual. Most parishes that I’ve been a member of, the priests have outnumbered the msrgs and not the other way around.
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It was supposed to be a joke, friend. 😉 Your wording was a tad confusing and I opted to inject some levity into the topic.
 
Sorry. Didn’t see a smilie and it’s sometimes hard to read a facial expression without them.

Although you have to admit that having the msgrs out number the priests in a parish is a bit unusual. :rolleyes:
 
My pastor wears a biretta on occasion. Someone carries it out for him in the recessional.
 
Although you have to admit that having the msgrs out number the priests in a parish is a bit unusual. :rolleyes:
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Inded. I do not ever remember seeing that.

Remember, though, monsignori are still priests. But I agree that this is unusual. Are they retired or in residence?
 
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Chatter163:
Inded. I do not ever remember seeing that.

Remember, though, monsignori are still priests. But I agree that this is unusual. Are they retired or in residence?
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One is the pastor. Anoher one is retired. And the third one just lives there and really has nothing to do with the parish other than saying daily and Sunday mass.
 
Sir Knight:
I felt that I politely and to the best of my ability addressed your comments.

I guess you didn’t catch my reply …
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Yes, I suppose you’re right. Priests should carry guns to defend themselves and others. Forgive my stupidity.
 
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