Do Protestants have a particular stand on the filioque?

[ahimsaman72]

mark a:

Honestly- no harm intended. Just to clarify:

Catholics are often criticised for this very same thing. It’s odd (but refreshing) to hear a Protestant defend goodness.

Oh - good . Yes, I sat under pastors who didn’t spit or breath fire from the pulpit, but rather encouraged us to holiness in our daily lives. I have found Catholic spirituality (again, which is much deeper and comprehensive than any protestant spirituality) to be refreshing for me. I pray the Rosary often and love to read Catholic works (although some too deep for me).

Peace…

 

[Mickey]

flameburns623:

Quick! Somebody ‘ding’ Fr. Ambrose. If he weighs in on this, we’ll get the EO perspective on why this issue is important. Which it isn’t and never was; but I’m not EO and don’t care whether the phrase is in or out. The real problem was too many guys in big pointy hats with big pointy egos running around the Middle Ages. The pointy-hatted guy in Rome wanted to assert his ‘right’ to insert a phrase without the consensus of the other guys with pointy hats. The pointy-hatted guys out East didn’t want him to have that ‘right’. So they gave him the big red raspberry and have been doing so ever since.

Seems like you have a pointy hat phobia.

 

[flameburns623]

Mickey:

Seems like you have a pointy hat phobia.

No. Just a sense of humor about historical foolishness. Hope you caught on that I was writing tongue-in-cheek. I DID use smilies to emphasize the point!:tiphat:

 

[Contarini]

mark a:

Honestly- no harm intended. Just to clarify:

Catholics are often criticised for this very same thing. It’s odd (but refreshing) to hear a Protestant defend goodness.

You must not have spent much time around Methodists

Edwin

 

[Mickey]

flameburns623:

No. Just a sense of humor about historical foolishness.

As somewhat of a history buff, I am reticent to refer to history as foolishness.

 

[FCEGM]

This article offers good insight into the controversy:

bringyou.to/apologetics/a52.htm

 

[MariaG]

flameburns623:

Quick! Somebody ‘ding’ Fr. Ambrose. If he weighs in on this, we’ll get the EO perspective on why this issue is important. Which it isn’t and never was; but I’m not EO and don’t care whether the phrase is in or out. The real problem was too many guys in big pointy hats with big pointy egos running around the Middle Ages. The pointy-hatted guy in Rome wanted to assert his ‘right’ to insert a phrase without the consensus of the other guys with pointy hats. The pointy-hatted guys out East didn’t want him to have that ‘right’. So they gave him the big red raspberry and have been doing so ever since.

Fr. Ambrose:bigyikes: And MariaG runs away and hides:bigyikes:

 

[mark_a]

Contarini:

You must not have spent much time around Methodists

Edwin

Now that you mention it, the Christians I’ve known who are Methodists seem to be not at all obsessed about converting Catholics.

 

[mark_a]

FCEGM:

This article offers good insight into the controversy:

bringyou.to/apologetics/a52.htm

Thanks for the link.

I’m a little confused about the example I have pasted below:

A simple example illustrates this: it is like saying (a) “the color blue is beautiful”; and another saying (b) “yellow and green (constituents of blue) are also beautiful”; to which a third person says (c) “only blue is beautiful.” The third statement contradicts the second and narrows the first in an unacceptable way. That is not to say that statements (a) and (b) are the same; they are not, and both of them are true, but they mean slightly different things, since blue is not the same as yellow and green unmixed.

In my simple mind, blue and yellow makes green. Or does this have something to do with projected light vs. reflected light?

Or are yellow, blue, and green another Orthodox/Catholic reunification stumbling block???

 

[FCEGM]

mark a:

Thanks for the link. . . .

In my simple mind, blue and yellow makes green. Or does this have something to do with projected light vs. reflected light?

Or are yellow, blue, and green another Orthodox/Catholic reunification stumbling block???

Yes, blue and yellow makes green, but the example Father uses is contrasting blue ( it being a beautiful color or ONLY blue being beautiful) to yellow and green unmixed (also being beautiful). So one can say that yellow and green unmixed are beautiful, or that when combined to make blue that color is beautiful; but when one says that ONLY blue is beautiful then one is narrowing one’s preference in a way not congenial to the appreciation of the the colors that constitute blue.

So I think his analogy is a good one when comparing the Catholic understanding of the Filioque to that of the Orthodox.

 

[manualman]

mark a:

Now I feel like I’m in a time warp or a parallel universe or bizarro world!!!
Or maybe I’m like George Castanza where left is right, up is down, black is. . . . .

Thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut.

I, for one, just about blew out my eyeballs laughing at this comment! Thank you. Having spent much time with agressive evangelical protestants, I really enjoyed this remark!